Skip to comments.10 Quotes That Prove The Pope Is A Liberal
Posted on 08/05/2013 7:23:37 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
The Pope is soft on Islam.
"It is true that the Muslim world is not totally mistaken when it reproaches the West of Christian tradition of moral decadence and the manipulation of human life."
"It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the church's pastors wherever it occurs."
He is overtly humble and does not embrace his office:
"The authority of the pope is not unlimited;"
"The cardinals have elected me, a simple and humble worker in the Lord's vineyard. The fact that the Lord can work and act even with insufficient means consoles me, and above all I entrust myself to your prayers."
He makes a point of extolling women and the Church.
It is theologically and anthropologically important for woman to be at the center of Christianity. Through Mary, and the other holy women, the feminine element stands at the heart of the Christian religion.
On those neo-pelagians that think they can earn their way to heaven through piety instead of charity:
If in my life I fail completely to heed others, solely out of a desire to be 'devout' and to perform my 'religious duties', then my relationship with God will also grow arid. It becomes merely 'proper', but loveless.
He cares about the environment:
Listen to the voice of the earth...
He even hates Capitalism:
"the prevalence of a selfish and individualistic mindset which also finds expression in an unregulated capitalism"
(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...
With regret, NCR does not allow FR to reproduce the full article. The excerpt is only about 40% of the original, so if this interests you or concerns you, I strongly encourage you to read the full article.
A shame to see this by Archbold in the authentically Catholic Register.
"In fairness, I must note that there might be one small problem with my analysis. So small I hesitate to even bring it up. Every quote above is from Pope Benedict. Every one."
Good article. LOL
I agree, They are twisting his words and their meaning.
However he does seem a bit Naïve to me and has not learned yet that he must think before speaking as every word out of his mouth will be taken at it’s lowest meaning.
He is new to this Pope game, didn’t want it in the first place, right now he is being tested.
“It is true that the Muslim world is not totally mistaken when it reproaches the West of Christian tradition of moral decadence and the manipulation of human life.”
I can’t disagree with this one.
Very cool. I love them both.
You forgot his disclaimer.
**In fairness, I must note that there might be one small problem with my analysis. So small I hesitate to even bring it up. Every quote above is from Pope Benedict. Every one.**
The authority of the pope is nonexistent.
The Pope directly succeeds Jesus Christ as the leader of the Church. Are you saying that Jesus Christ had no authority? Just wondering.............
Just his being from Argentina told me that he was liberal.
Capitalism as envisioned by our Founders required self-regulation rooted in morality, generally based in religion.
It was never about flat-out absolute selfishness and greed.
How is that statement encouraging homosexuality? It's encouraging neighborly love ... exactly what Jesus taught. That does not mean condoning or encouraging sinful behavior, however. No one should be victims of violent malice in speech or action. Let's just think about the parable of the Good Samaritan for example.
The Pope is the successor of Peter not Jesus Himself. Jesus anointed Peter the first leader of His church on earth with the words: "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
Vicar of Christ (Latin Vicarius Christi). A title of the pope implying his supreme and universal primacy, both of honour and of jurisdiction, over the Church of Christ. It is founded on the words of the Divine Shepherd to St. Peter: "Feed my lambs. . . . Feed my sheep" (John 21:16-17), by which He constituted the Prince of the Apostles guardian of His entire flock in His own place, thus making him His Vicar and fulfilling the promise made in Matthew 16:18-19. In the course of the ages other vicarial designations have been used for the pope, as Vicar of St. Peter and even Vicar of the Apostolic See (Pope Gelasius, I, Ep. vi), but the title Vicar of Christ is more expressive of his supreme headship of the Church on earth, which he bears in virtue of the commission of Christ and with vicarial power derived from Him. Thus, Innocent III appeals for his power to remove bishops to the fact that he is Vicar of Christ (cap. "Inter corporalia", 2, "De trans. ep."). He also declares that Christ has given such power only to His Vicar Peter and his successors (cap. "Quanto", 3, ibid.), and states that it is the Roman Pontiff who is "the successor of Peter and the Vicar of Jesus Christ" (cap. "Licet", 4, ibid.). The title Vicar of God used for the pope by Nicholas III (c. "Fundamenta ejus", 17, "De elect.", in 6) is employed as an equivalent for Vicar of Christ.
” The Pope directly succeeds Jesus Christ as the leader of the Church.”
No, not really. The Holy Father is Christ’s vicar, not His successor.
In addition it clearly states that Yah'shua is not the Elohim of creation. The Ecclesia was started in Deuteronomy 4:10.
Interesting statement. shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Based on Eisgesis and faulty reading of the WORD of G-d.
10 Remember the day you stood before YHvH Seek the face of YHvH in His WORD.
your God at Horeb,
when YHvH said to me,
Assemble the people to Me,
that I may let them hear My words
so they may learn to fear Me all the days
they live on the earth,
and that they may teach their children.
In addition it clearly states that Yah'shua is not the Elohim of creation.
The Ecclesia was started in Deuteronomy 4:10.
Lol! Great post, Alex. And good catch, Servant.
Corrected as usual.
On the other hand would you say that Peter directly succeded Jesus Christ as the leader of the Church.
Is Francis the last Pope: Peter the Roman ?shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Are you saying that Jesus Christ stopped leading the Christian Church?
Thanks, Alex! Wonderful article, right down to the last line: kicky!
This post meant to cause trouble.
The last sentence of the article could have and should have been included in the first response, but it was not.
The article was written about Pope Benedict and its audience is NCRegister readers who would and can always trust that their newspaper would never disparage the Pope
The poster says read the article knowing many will not, as evidenced by the many discouraged posters
The last sentence, this is about Pope Benedict, was not in there
Francis may be worse than all those who followed Pius XII and Vatican II. And that’s quite a stretch.
There is a lot of projection going on concerning Pope Francis. That’s what makes this article with its surprise ending possible.
Funny how no one's taken issue with the author's bait-and-switch assertion that BXVI was a liberal :)
” On the other hand would you say that Peter directly succeded Jesus Christ as the leader of the Church.”
I would say that Jesus appointed him “prime minister” (if I needed to use another word than “vicar”)
See Matthew 16:19 where Jesus gave to him the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. To understand that more fully, you should look at Isaiah 22:21-22 and see the appointment given to Eliakim. Peter’s successors then retained those keys, but Jesus clearly remains the King of Kings.
I thought mindreading and thought control were outside of the purview of Catholicism?
Mind reading, right.
We’ve been down this anti pope road before
You and I, Mr. Murphy
That and a cursory glance at the effect of and the fruits of your post show clearly an intent without mind reading
A more effective route for your anti catholic sentiments might include going directly to an experienced or especially holy priest
But to use this forum for it seems very inappropriate to me and chicken
Why are you encouraging people to sin, Alex?
Murphy believes that the Pope serves Satan and not God.
This article is about Pope Benedict.
It is tongue in cheek
It is from an authentically Catholic Paper
Would that be these fruits and effects, stanne?
Post # 4: "Good article. LOL"
Post #17: "Lol! Great post, Alex. And good catch, Servant."
Post #19: "Am I the only one here that thinks maybe the Pope should be liberal?"
Post #23: "Thanks, Alex! Wonderful article, right down to the last line: kicky!"
“The authority of the pope is not unlimited;”
Every thing else if an actual statement of his, i agree, i would consider him a liberal and a new world enthusiast.
People who have never had to get out and pick s..t with the chickens do not understand that Capitalism is what feeds the hungry people all over the world.
When Jesus was talking about giving drink or food to people he was talking about giving of ones self, personally, do unto others as you would have them do unto you,
Matt 20 shows very plainly that Jesus was not against Capitalism.
It is nothing but envy of what some one else has, regardless of how hard they worked or did not work to get it.
Who will help me gather in the crop? not i said them all.
Who will help me eat it? i will said them all.
Murphy believes that the Pope serves Satan and not God.
Murphy believes you should have pinged me to your post to stanne
Sorry, haven’t found that comment anywhere in the scriptures that I have read and since I have read the entire Bible at this point, I would like your scriptural reference from the LORD that gave this authority to the pope. My Bible says that ONLY through Jesus will anyone see the Father. Doesn’t mention the pope in that reference.
Am I inaccurate?
Is the sky blue?
Stanne believes that you should not attribute statements made by others to stanne who did not say this
Pick and choose all you want
Thatt’s what the lib press does all the time
Which post/statement did I attribute to you incorrectly?
Use some or all of the negative quotes just to inject some honesty
Too late for the question - you've already asserted it as the truth, and I'm now calling you on it. I expect you to take responsibility for avoiding any appearance of malice, gossip or slander by backing your statement up, by providing the quote and where/when that I've said it.
Check the post i responded to, 38
I HAVE had enough of this particular typical grammar school level yet illogical thread
Take up our argument against the Church with the clergy
If you have any courage or maturity or willingness to tackle whatever obstacles stand in your way to reuniting with your faith if that’s the case
But this post was a cheap shot at Pope Francis intent on turning those who would not read it
Don’t waste my time
I teach ninth g English and I can tell BS from a mile away
"Rebellion and revolution - that's nothing new for Latin America: In the 1960s and 70s, Latin American liberation theologians such as Gustavo Gutierrez and Oscar Romero inspired clergymen and believers all over the world. One of them was Ludwig Gerhard Müller, who now heads the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith."
"Brazilian theologian Leonardo Boff firmly believes Latin America will trigger future reforms that are going to change the Catholic Church. "Our church doesn't reflect the European mother church anymore; it has its own origins, its own traditions, heroes, martyrs, prophets and personas such as the famous former bishop of Recife, Dom Helder Camara, or our very own saint, Oscar Romero," Boff said. "These churches will breathe new life into Christianity.""
End of excerpts
Gerhard Ludwig Müller - Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
"On 2 July 2012 Bishop Müller was appointed prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith by Pope Benedict XVI. At the same time he was appointed Archbishop ad personam. As a result of his new role his is also ex officio president of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, the International Theological Commission, and the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei."
"As a personal friend of Pope Benedict XVI, he has been charged with preparing the publication of the Opera Omnia: a series of books that will collect, in a single edition, all Benedict's writings. Müller himself has was written more than 400 works on dogmatic theology, ecumenism, revelation, hermeneutics, the priesthood and the diaconate."
"Müller was also a pupil of Gustavo Gutiérrez, the father of Latin-American liberation theology, with whom he has a long and close friendship.
Church Revolution in Pictures - Gutiérrez and Muller
"I remember that in high school there was a Communist professor. We had a wonderful relationship with him, he questioned us about everything and it was good for us, but he never lied to us. - Pope Francis p131 Heaven and Earth
"I read Our Word and Proposals, a publication by the Communist Party, and I loved every article ever written by Leonidas Barletta, one of their best-known members" - Pope Francis page 39 Conversations
A different perspective on Francis' "wild capitalism" and concern for the poor.