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Pope Francis is unsettling and dividing the Catholic right
Religion News Service ^ | Aug 6, 2013 | David Gibson

Posted on 08/07/2013 2:13:17 PM PDT by haffast

(RNS) For more than three decades, the Vatican of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI operated on a version of the conservative maxim, “No enemies to the right.”

While left-wing theologians were silenced and liberal-to-moderate bishops were shunted aside in favor of hard-liners, liturgical traditionalists and cultural conservatives were diligently courted and given direct access to the apostolic palace.

But in a few short months, Pope Francis has upended that dynamic, alienating many on the Catholic right by refusing to play favorites and ignoring their preferred agenda items even as he stressed the kind of social justice issues that are near and dear to progressives.

“I’ve personally found many aspects of this papacy to be annoying, and struggled against that feeling from the beginning. I’m hardly alone in this,” Jeffrey Tucker, editor of the New Liturgical Movement blog, wrote as Francis basked in the glow of media coverage of his recent trip to Brazil.

“Every day and in every way we are being told how glorious it is that the bad old days are gone and the new good days are here,” he lamented.

Tucker and other traditionalists who are dedicated to high church rituals have been especially miffed at Francis’ simple — they might say simplistic — style since the moment the former Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio was introduced to the world as the new pope back in March.

“How can I love a Pope who doesn’t even want to be Pope?” Katrina Fernandez, a popular conservative blogger, wrote in a column about her disillusionment.

Since Francis’ election, the anxiety on the right has only mounted as he has continued to model a radically different pontificate — preaching about the evils of the globalized economy while repeatedly reminding his followers to care for the poor and marginalized.

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To: IbJensen

You need to talk to the U. S. Bishops.

Vatican II never changed the preference for the Latin Mass.


21 posted on 08/07/2013 3:18:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: IbJensen

“Jesus is not pleased with what the successors of Peter have done to his legacy left on earth.”

Please. My Roman friends here have assured me the Church is totally infallible - never makes mistakes.
Everything therefore is under control.


22 posted on 08/07/2013 4:07:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws - Tacituss)
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To: IbJensen

Yu may have answered this question before and I missed it somehow, but are you a sedevacantist?


23 posted on 08/07/2013 5:14:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It; IbJensen
David Gibson's professional affiliations are the AOL Political blog and Commonweal.

That may explain his particular set of distortions.

24 posted on 08/07/2013 5:18:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: IbJensen

I’m afraid you’re correct. Pope Francis strikes me as the type of person who has all the love in the world for the poor, the sick and the disadvantaged, but has nothing left but contempt and chastisement for the rest of humanity who does not fall into those categories. Supposedly he rejects liberation theology and maybe he does in its Marxist “doctrines” but he sure can’t seem to escape the social justice memes. Mother Teresa was not that way. She ministered to the poorest of the poor and those who were poor in spirit.


25 posted on 08/07/2013 5:24:24 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Mrs. Don-o
David Gibson - Biography

"DAVID GIBSON is an award-winning religion journalist, author, filmmaker, and a convert to Catholicism. He came by all those vocations by accident, or Providence, during a longer-than-expected sojourn in Rome in the 1980s."

"Gibson began his journalistic career as a walk-on sports editor and columnist at The International Courier, a small daily in Rome serving Italy's English-language community. He then found a job as a newscaster and writer across the Tiber at the English Programme at Vatican Radio, an entity he describes as a cross between NPR and Armed Forces Radio for the pope. The Jesuits who ran the radio were charitable enough to hire Gibson even though he had no radio background, could not pronounce the name "Karol Wojtyla," and wasn't Catholic. Time and experience overcame all those challenges, and Gibson went on to cover dozens of John Paul II's overseas trips, including papal visits to Africa, Europe, Latin America and the United States."

Read more:
http://dgibson.com/biography.html

Gibson on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/David-Gibson/e/B001HML5TK/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_7?qid=1375922074&sr=1-7

26 posted on 08/07/2013 5:58:37 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast
As I read through the comments of others, I can readily understand the disappointment with the present pope. I would like to point out a few things that might show the forest - that is, a view from above the trees to bring some hope into the present. First of all, I believe many if not most of you will recall the vision of Pope Leo XIII in 1884, who was knocked to the floor of the Vatican after saying Mass. If you DON'T know about it, then briefly, he saw a vision of the devil speaking to God. In it, the devil said that he could destroy the Church if given the time (the 20th Century) and the power. The Lord said, you have the time and the power. After this time, the Pope understood that the power of Satan would be broken. From this vision came the prayer to St. Michael, said after all the low Masses until around 1962. You can research this on your own for a more complete explanation. The bottom line here, to me anyways, is that with each passing day, we are further removed from the 20th century, and the devil's power is on the wane whether it is apparent to us or not. I would also like to point out that Fatima, Garabandal (which has not been approved OR condemned) and Akita all point to a dramatic change being brought about by God in the very near future. My few paragraphs here cannot possibly explain what all was included here, but your own research, including testimonies on Youtube, can fill in the admittedly large gaps. Finally, Pope Francis to his credit HAS encouraged the recitation of the Rosary, and on this point I'd like to make a recommendation to all Catholics or others of good will who do or would say the Rosary. It has to do with the Idea, in military terms, of a force multiplier. If you become enrolled in The Confraternity of the Most Holy Rosary, as advocated by St. Louis de Montfort, your rosaries will be joined with those all the other members, living or deceased. As St. Louis points out, by the law of community prayer, if an individual says a Rosary, it is but one Rosary. However, if joined with a group, each member receives the benefits of prayer as there are members in the group. It's an exponential power, meaning if two prayer together, each receives the the benefit of two rosaries, and four TOTAL are presented before the throne. If ten, then each receives 10 individually, while the group has sent on 100 Rosaries. The bottom line is, if you are registered in the Confraternity, for Each Rosary you pray, you give MILLIONS and receive the BENEFITS from MILLIONS of Rosaries each time you pray. Even if you are a lurker from another denomination, you understand the principle of “where two or three are gathered in My name”, so that group prayer and praise is much, much more efficacious than one individual's. As Catholics, we have the awesome gift, and perhaps a duty, to take advantage of this awesome power of praying the Most Holy Rosary as members of the Confraternity. In this way, we light a candle, and many candles at that, instead of cursing the darkness. "My people are destroyed from a lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6 Vade retro satana! Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, thy kingdom come!
27 posted on 08/07/2013 6:02:58 PM PDT by stisidore
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
“While left-wing theologians were silenced and liberal-to-moderate bishops were shunted aside in favor of hard-liners.”

It was the Washington compost....

28 posted on 08/07/2013 6:07:01 PM PDT by unread
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To: haffast
I appreciate this list --- a much more accurate set of credentials than I gave for Gibson. I just jotted off what I knew best --- not a good idea for me to be so hasty.

Thank you for correcting my "jot".

29 posted on 08/07/2013 6:23:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Si.

You did ask but forgot.


30 posted on 08/07/2013 6:45:40 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: D-fendr

Nein.


31 posted on 08/07/2013 6:46:23 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Get serious, Sirius.


32 posted on 08/07/2013 6:46:54 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Salvation

I am saying that the Novus Ordo is not a valid mass.


33 posted on 08/07/2013 6:47:33 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen; Chode

“ou’d be better off attending a Jehovah’s Witness meeting than going to a Novus Ordo Modernist imitation mass.”

Are you kidding me? You’d be better off attending any protestant service than attending anything other than a good old fashion Latin Mass!!


34 posted on 08/07/2013 7:22:13 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: IbJensen

Why do you say that?


35 posted on 08/07/2013 8:51:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: haffast

LOL!

I’m still waiting for Francis to sell the Vatican at auction, and give the money to the poor, as was originally intended by Yeshua.


36 posted on 08/07/2013 8:57:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: IbJensen

Protestant?


37 posted on 08/07/2013 10:59:29 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Roman Catholic.


38 posted on 08/08/2013 5:04:33 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Morgana

Attending a Tridentine Mass is the only way to worship God.


39 posted on 08/08/2013 5:09:45 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

The Greeks, no doubt, will be amused to learn of your opinion.


40 posted on 08/08/2013 5:16:23 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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