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To: haffast

IMO, some on the Catholic Right are obsessed (and I choose that word quite purposefully....obsessed) with relatively insignificant issues (precise times at which we must kneel during Mass, saying “one in being” or “consubstantial”, etc.)

And since whatever is THEIR particular issue, it is obviously the MOST IMPORTANT one from their point of view.

Pope Francis on the other hand is trying to deal, broad brush, with the MOST IMPORTANT issues facing the Church as quickly as possible. The fallout from Pedophile Priest cases, millions of abortions worldwide every year, governments forcing the Church to pay for things that violate it’s core teaching, the rapid falling away of young people, etc.

And I’m with him as we’re at Defcon 1, and frankly I’m a bit disturbed at all the time and energy that went into decisions like “consubstantial”.


3 posted on 08/07/2013 2:28:55 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Back in 1014 the western Church added one word to that very prayer and it caused a schism that still exists to this day. So it is probably appropriate to use due caution.


9 posted on 08/07/2013 2:48:11 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You’d be better off attending a Jehovah’s Witness meeting than going to a Novus Ordo Modernist imitation mass.

You’re eager to flush 1,500 years of tenets, rubrics and worshipful ceremony down the toilet. Christ’s Church on earth was not to be a mockery of the religion originally headed by Peter.

Satan is involved in the details here of the evolution of the Roman Catholic church into a contorted caricature of Jesus’ legacy.


10 posted on 08/07/2013 2:49:32 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

con = with
substantial - substance

Very simple and it goes with the Latin.


13 posted on 08/07/2013 2:53:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

IMO, some on the Catholic Right are obsessed (and I choose that word quite purposefully....obsessed) with relatively insignificant issues (precise times at which we must kneel during Mass, saying “one in being” or “consubstantial”, etc.)

Ya, like abortion and marriage. They should support open borders, higher taxes etc.


16 posted on 08/07/2013 2:59:34 PM PDT by STJPII
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To: Buckeye McFrog

IMO, some on the Catholic Right are obsessed (and I choose that word quite purposefully....obsessed) with relatively insignificant issues (precise times at which we must kneel during Mass, saying “one in being” or “consubstantial”, etc.)

Ya, like abortion and marriage. They should support open borders, higher taxes etc.


17 posted on 08/07/2013 2:59:48 PM PDT by STJPII
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