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The thread from which Summorum Pontificum hangs
Renew America ^ | August 8, 2013 | Louie Verrecchio

Posted on 08/08/2013 5:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

On August 6th, Andrea Tornielli of "Vatican Insider" published an interview with Fr. Alessandro Apollonio, the Procurator General of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, in which they discussed the Holy See's recent decision to restrict the order's use of the so-called "Extraordinary Form."

The decree issued by the Congregation for Religious, with the approval of Pope Francis, reads in part:

"The Holy Father Francis has directed that every religious of the congregation of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate is required to celebrate the liturgy according to the ordinary rite and that, if the occasion should arise, the use of the extraordinary form (Vetus Ordo) must be explicitly authorized by the competent authorities, for every religious and/or community that makes the request."

After some initial confusion, the picture is becoming more clear, and let's just say, it ain't real pretty.

In his interview with Tornielli, Fr. Apollonio said, "Fr. Lombardi has clearly stated that the decisions taken regarding our Institute are not a disavowal of the Motu Proprio [Summorum Pontificum.] However,..."

Please allow me to translate these carefully chosen words:

In spite of Fr. Lombardi's claim to the contrary, the restriction being placed on the traditional liturgy is precisely that, a restriction, the likes of which are expressly nullified in Summorum Pontificum wherein it states with regard to the celebration of the ancient rite, "The priest has no need for permission from the Apostolic See or from his Ordinary."

Fr. Apollonio then suggests a rather obvious and as yet unanswered question: From whom precisely are the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate now required to seek "explicit" permission in order to celebrate the traditional Mass?

For my part, I'm even more interested in discovering the answer to a question that far too few seem to be asking:

Permission to celebrate the traditional Mass will either be granted, or denied, based upon what criteria?

Only a fool can be confident that this same, or a similar, criteria won't eventually end up being applied in the regulation of the traditional Mass in dioceses (and parishes) wherein the local ordinary (or pastor) is either ambivalent or hostile toward the ancient rite. And why not? Rome has given such men (if they ever really cared about the mind of the pope in the first place) all they need to claim justification for doing so.

Look, Summorum Pontificum was a tremendous gift, but let's be honest, it has from day one been a less than perfect solution to what Cardinal Ratzinger once described as the "banal on the spot fabrication" that is the Novus Ordo.

Furthermore, those bishops who went-along-just-to-get-along with Summorum only reluctantly, or one might even speak of those who merely tolerated it, did so in large measure in deference to Benedict's personal affinity for the ancient rite. (More on that in a moment.) This was apparently even true of the very men who worked in the Roman Curia during his papacy.

When asked by Tornielli whether it is "true that before the apostolic visit, the Ecclesia Dei commission had cautioned the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate to be prudent in their use of the old missal," Fr. Apollonio answered, "Yes, we tried to be as prudent and discreet as possible..."

One cannot help but wonder why it would ever be necessary to exercise "prudence" in such a matter, offering this centuries old, ever-valid and eminently praiseworthy rite of the Catholic Church only with "discretion"? The very idea is utter madness.

The bottom line is this: From the very moment Summorum Pontificum was issued, the powers-that-be in Rome, Pope Benedict included, have ever been at pains to prop up the Novus Ordo Missae, careful to paint it as an equal to the Usus Antiquior, (thus the clumsy labels "Ordinary Form / Extraordinary Form") that differed only in externals, like paint colors on an automobile, with the underlying suggestion being that the Mass of Paul VI is utterly beyond reproach.

Even so, anyone who took the time to read Pope Benedict's writings on the Mass, in particular as presented in "The Spirit of the Liturgy" written as Cardinal Ratzinger in the year 2000, realized that the former Pontiff himself didn't view the two "uses" as mere equals.

This brings us to the elephant in the room; neither does the current pope view them as equals, difference being, however, he seems rather obviously to hold the exact opposite opinion as his predecessor.

And that, my friends, is the thread from which Summorum Pontificum now hangs.

This is precisely why, I suspect, we are witnessing from the Holy See the re-emergence of the pre-Summorum suggestion that the Novus Ordo Missae is in some way superior to the traditional Mass that it supplanted, an inverted notion of reality that subtly makes itself known in the decree pertaining to the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate.

Two weeks before Pope Benedict XVI formally abdicated, I wrote the following:

We will know what the immediate future holds for the Church based upon just one observation; namely, the liturgical mindset of Pope Benedict's successor. If the man who is chosen has a distaste for the Traditional Mass, then rest assured, regardless of any apparent orthodox bona fides the new pope may have, the modernists will succeed in making Catholic life difficult. If, however, they elect a man who loves the Tridentine Rite, celebrates it often, and continues to do so as pope, know for a fact that while tribulation is most certainly coming, we are moving in the right direction.

Now, nearly five months into the papacy of Pope Francis, I stand firmly by that assessment.

© Louie Verrecchio


TOPICS: Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: francis; tlm
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To: JCBreckenridge

“You cite a source demonstrating that while Francis does personally offer Holy Communion (in performing the consecration), that he sometimes chooses not to distribute it.”

When you’re talking about Holy Communion, and if you truly believe in the Real Presence, you wouldn’t refer to the Sacred Species, as “it”. You are doing nothing but reenforcing my ideas about you.

And I don’t consider you to be a fellow Catholic; just like I don’t consider Nancy Pelosi to be a fellow Catholic.


41 posted on 08/09/2013 7:14:08 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: JCBreckenridge

Where is he? I don’t hear him.


42 posted on 08/09/2013 7:18:21 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

What was that schismatic?

You opened up this by agreeing with someone saying that ‘Maybe Pope Francis wants to replace the mass altogether’. As in not celebrate it ever.

That is a serious accusation!

You’re accusing Francis of heresy. Do you not see this? Do you not understand why any practicing Catholic who has submitted to Rome is offended by it?

“I don’t consider Nancy Pelosi to be a fellow Catholic.”

Good, I don’t have much patience for schismatics who attack Francis and make wild unsubstantiated allegations. Why would I be concerned that a schismatic would consider himself out of communion with me? That’s a mark of honor.


43 posted on 08/09/2013 7:22:33 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: ebb tide
Do not make this thread "about" other Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

44 posted on 08/09/2013 7:26:12 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: ebb tide

Right, because I believe that marriage is a sacrament. You can’t get rebaptized and you can’t get remarried with a living spouse. Deviations from this principle erode the sacrament.

What’s your explanation for attributing heresy to Francis? Is he just not the pope for you? I’m told there are plenty of protestants that believe the exact same thing. Some of them have their own popes.

You should join them since you don’t seem to like Francis very much.


46 posted on 08/09/2013 7:31:43 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge

“What’s your explanation for attributing heresy to Francis?”

Once again, please back up you accusation. In what post(s) did I accuse Pope Francis of heresy?


47 posted on 08/09/2013 7:51:01 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I already quoted the post. Several times in fact.


48 posted on 08/10/2013 12:15:42 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge

You didn’t post it one time. I have never accused Pope Francis of heresy.


49 posted on 08/10/2013 3:45:54 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: JCBreckenridge

No, I said he is adverse to offering Holy Communion to the faithful at his Masses. I never said he is adverse to offering Mass. I spoke the truth.

Prove otherwise.


51 posted on 08/10/2013 4:38:55 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: JCBreckenridge; Religion Moderator

“Schismatic”? You’re making it personal.


52 posted on 08/10/2013 4:41:35 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: JCBreckenridge

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


53 posted on 08/10/2013 7:48:35 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: ebb tide

“No, I said he is adverse to offering Holy Communion to the faithful at his Masses.”

Without proof, this is a spurious accusation. Your cited evidence did not show that this is true.

Your own source shows that Pope Francis is only to happy to perform masses and to consecrate the blessed sacrament, contrary to what you just stated.

If you want to continue smearing Francis, I suggest you continue. It will further damage your reputation here.


54 posted on 08/10/2013 8:11:17 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge
Quite frankly, do you really care what a "re-play" nube thinks?

I'm pretty sure this guy/lady has been here before. Not sure if it's our "fake Traditionalist" or another, but I doubt any ruckus maker who makes a noise so soon after joining.

56 posted on 08/12/2013 5:29:07 AM PDT by Cronos
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