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Muslims Mad as Hell About ‘Islamophobic’ Conference
The Christian Diarist ^ | August 11, 2013 | JP

Posted on 08/11/2013 1:54:43 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Eastern Michigan University hosted a day-long conference Saturday that dared to ask the question: “Is Islam a Religion of Peace?”

Leaders of the state’s Muslim community apparently didn’t care to hear the answer because they tried mightily to get the conference cancelled.

“We respect the freedom of speech,” claimed Victor Begg, senior advisor of the Michigan Muslim Community Center. “However, denying the Holocaust, yelling ‘fire’ in a theater, or glorifying Hitler would not constitute freedom of speech.”

In other words, anyone who wonders aloud whether Islam truly is the peaceful religion its adherents claim is on a moral par with Hitler or, perhaps, James Holmes, the self-described “Joker,” who shot and killed 12 people in a crowded movie theater in Aurora, Colorado.

Begg and his fellow Islamic apologists were particularly offended that the sponsor of the East Michigan U conference – an Ann Arbor, Michigan radio station – invited Robert Spencer to speak.

He’s the author of 12 books, including two New York Times best sellers on Islam, The Truth About Muhammad and The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades). He also is the director of Jihad Watch.org.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, an extereme liberal outfit that describes its mission as “fighting hate, teaching tolerance, seeking justice,” slanders Spencer as an “Islamophobe.” As proof, it notes that he has been banned from Britain as “extremist.”

Spencer is unworried about the Michigan Muslim Community Center, the Southern Poverty Law Center and other detractors.

“What I say is true,” he told an audience of more than 500. “And in the immortal words of Jack Nicholson,” he told Begg and others who took issue with his remarks, “‘You can’t handle the truth.’”

Indeed, in a recent survey by the Pew Forum of Religion and Public Life, one in five Muslims here in the United States said that “suicide bombing or other forms of violence against civilians in the name of Islam” could be justified.

What that means is that some 1.4 million American Muslims (out of an estimated 7 million) thought the 2001 terror attacks upon the World Trade Center justified, as well as this year’s terror attack during the Boston Marathon.

During his featured debate yesterday at Eastern Michigan U against Shadid Lewis, Regional Director of the Muslim Debate Initiative, Spencer forced the Islamist to effectively tap out.

Spencer didn’t subdue his debate foe with rhetorical jujitsu. Lewis was undone, Spencer said, in a post-debate blog post by “the numerous quotations I provided from Islamic authorities teaching warfare against and subjugation of unbelievers.”

Lewis, who converted to Islam two decades ago, was out of his depth yesterday in Ypsilanti, Michigan. Just like all apologists for Islam. For they are defending the religion of most of the world’s terrorists.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Islam; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: academicbias; dearbornistan; islamicimperialism; islamists; islamistsprotest; islamophobic; mohammedanism; muslim; religionofpeace; robertspencer; terrorism; thoughtcrime
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The one-fifth of American Muslims who share common cause with Islamic terrorists are a fifth column in our midst.
1 posted on 08/11/2013 1:54:43 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I am still mad a hell about 9/11!


2 posted on 08/11/2013 1:57:04 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

“We respect the freedom of speech,”
Translation:
“We don’t respect the freedom of speech.”


3 posted on 08/11/2013 1:57:35 PM PDT by unseelie
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

.... ask the question: “Is Islam a Religion of Peace?”


I hope that doesn’t make them want to kill people and blow things up.


4 posted on 08/11/2013 1:58:23 PM PDT by boycott
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

muslims prove all around the world that they’re not a religion of peace.


5 posted on 08/11/2013 1:59:05 PM PDT by boycott
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

It’s a religion of peace if you’re a Muslim. If you’re a member of another religion, they make you walk on tiptoes.


6 posted on 08/11/2013 1:59:12 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Freedom of speech note: shouting ‘fire’ in a crowded theater is not only ok, it is strongly encouraged if the theater is actually ON FIRE...


7 posted on 08/11/2013 1:59:57 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor < still > has no pedigree.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

It’s the 98% that are radical that make the 2% look bad.


8 posted on 08/11/2013 2:00:10 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. DonÂ’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

They’re always mad as hell about something.


9 posted on 08/11/2013 2:00:27 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim. Not every home will burn down, but should we all go without smoke detectors? I think keeping an eye on Muslims is a good idea when that next terrorist attack is planned.


10 posted on 08/11/2013 2:01:23 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: MuttTheHoople

11 posted on 08/11/2013 2:01:35 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. DonÂ’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
ALL muslims are suspect as they'd be the first ones to turn to their moon
god if the going got tough here in the US...which sure seems like it could.
12 posted on 08/11/2013 2:01:53 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: ColdOne

Hell screw what they think. We know what their end game is now and they’re just pissed that we found them out.


13 posted on 08/11/2013 2:05:05 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

James Holmes, the theater murderer, converted to islam.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/21/aurora-theater-shooter-james-holmes-converts-islam/


14 posted on 08/11/2013 2:10:35 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
“We respect the freedom of speech,” claimed Victor Begg, senior advisor of the Michigan Muslim Community Center. “However, denying the Holocaust, yelling ‘fire’ in a theater, or glorifying Hitler would not constitute freedom of speech.”

Actually, 2 of these 3 are protected. Victor Begg is as ignorant as he and his vile brethren are bloodthirsty.

15 posted on 08/11/2013 2:11:02 PM PDT by relictele (A community vigilant in enforcing economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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To: boycott

.... ask the question: “Is Islam a Religion of Peace?”

Hell NO.Religion of Peace My Rear-End.And that’s being diplomatic.


16 posted on 08/11/2013 2:16:55 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
The one-fifth of American Muslims who share common cause with Islamic terrorists are a fifth column in our midst.

And so are the 4/5 of the rest who share their vision of a USA under Islam, IMO.

17 posted on 08/11/2013 2:16:55 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

The Boy just said, or maybe State Department,that we are under alert. Sooooooo who is going to do these acts Catholics? I think not, it will be a moooooselim duh


18 posted on 08/11/2013 2:18:01 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
“We respect the freedom of speech,” claimed Victor Begg, senior advisor of the Michigan Muslim Community Center. “However, denying the Holocaust, yelling ‘fire’ in a theater, or glorifying Hitler would not constitute freedom of speech.”

Sorry Victor, but 2 of the 3 examples you give ARE covered by the first amendment as "freedom of speech." They might be offensive, but they're still protected.

The only reason "yelling 'fire' in a theater" isn't covered is due to the probability of loss of life caused by the act... So are you claiming that asking if islam is "peaceful" will cause people to be killed?

Mark

19 posted on 08/11/2013 2:20:01 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Another example that to get news today you have to go to the internet because there is no way in hell the leftist propaganda machines like NBC, ABC, CBS, MSLSD would ever report something like this.


20 posted on 08/11/2013 2:23:32 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

The mohammedans are mad as hell. SSDD.


21 posted on 08/11/2013 2:25:52 PM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Does Islam make people angry?

It mad Muham mad!


22 posted on 08/11/2013 2:29:27 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: popdonnelly
It’s a religion of peace if you’re a Muslim. If you’re a member of another religion, they make you walk on tiptoes.

"Peace" is only for men of their own sect

23 posted on 08/11/2013 2:37:53 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
“We respect the freedom of speech,” claimed Victor Begg, senior advisor of the Michigan Muslim Community Center. “However, denying the Holocaust, yelling ‘fire’ in a theater, or glorifying Hitler would not constitute freedom of speech.”

so what do the examples cited have to do with the topic of the discussion? Nothing! Muslims despise free speech just like they despise other religions (Allah and Mohammed, PissBUH, cannot tolerate competition.)

24 posted on 08/11/2013 2:38:57 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: MarkL

And those two protected examples represent widely held - and expressed - opinions of muslims worldwide. Holocaust denial - of course, have we forgotten all the holocaust denial conferences, books and speeches sponsored by muslims? Glorification of Hitler - give me a break, muslims were ALLIES of Hitler; the holocaust was the Grand Mufti’s idea fer cryin’ out loud.

As for crying “fire” in a crowded theater, everyone knows that’s not how muslims behave. They leave the yelling to others; they’re more interested in finding effective ways to make that fire happen in the first place.


25 posted on 08/11/2013 2:39:33 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
“We respect the freedom of speech,” claimed Victor Begg, senior advisor of the Michigan Muslim Community Center. “However, denying the Holocaust, yelling ‘fire’ in a theater, or glorifying Hitler would not constitute freedom of speech.”

Actually despite their idiocy, denying the Holocaust and glorifying Hitler are free speech issues. Yelling fire in a theater is different because it creates an immediate dangerous situation where people can get injured or killed.
26 posted on 08/11/2013 2:55:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Hey Muzzies...don’t like it? Don’t go!


27 posted on 08/11/2013 3:04:27 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
The Southern Poverty Law Center, an extereme liberal outfit that describes its mission as “fighting hate, teaching tolerance, seeking justice,” slanders Spencer as an “Islamophobe.” As proof, it notes that he has been banned from Britain as “extremist.”

The BBC banned Winston Churchhill in the 1930s for his "extremist" warnings of the dangers of Hitler and NAZIs.

28 posted on 08/11/2013 3:06:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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“We respect the freedom of speech,” claimed Victor Begg, senior advisor of the Michigan Muslim Community Center. “However, denying the Holocaust, yelling ‘fire’ in a theater, or glorifying Hitler would not constitute freedom of speech.”

Really? Silly Muzzie... You can do all those things.

29 posted on 08/11/2013 3:07:57 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

If the theater is on fire you must yell “fire”.

Liberals and muslims would prefer barring the doors and filling the sprinklers with casoline. Or zyklon.


30 posted on 08/11/2013 3:10:03 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Here's a word everybody should be familiar with:

Taqiyya. If you don't know what it means, go learn. I suspect Taqiyya flowed like a river at this conference.

Those wanting to learn more can watch this eyeopening video. Eight minutes.

31 posted on 08/11/2013 3:15:15 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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32 posted on 08/11/2013 3:19:05 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: ColdOne
I am still mad a hell about 9/11!

You are not the only one...

Those MF'ing bastards totally changed America...I now fully understand why the WWII generation still distrust the Japanese...

My personal opinion is we should profile every person coming from a predominantly Muslim country...even a hint of radicalism...NOT WELCOME

Anything else I say will get me banned.. !

33 posted on 08/11/2013 3:24:52 PM PDT by Popman
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To: windsorknot

Hold the conference & be prepared. A Taser or two & a couple cans of wasp spray, plus a few ax handles might serve to keep the muzzies at bay.

And instant upload cameras everywhere. Let the world see these 7th century knuckledraggers for what they really are.


34 posted on 08/11/2013 3:36:39 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: MarkL
The only reason "yelling 'fire' in a theater" isn't covered is due to the probability of loss of life caused by the act

Then again, have you been inside a theater recently?

The five to ten people running out probably won't even see each other let alone trample each other.

35 posted on 08/11/2013 3:39:43 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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“However, denying the Holocaust, yelling ‘fire’ in a theater, or glorifying Hitler would not constitute freedom of speech.”

Two of those three items would indeed be speech protected under 1st Amendment.

36 posted on 08/11/2013 3:43:26 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Islam is the mortal enemy of Western civilization. There will NEVER be a peaceful coexistence with them. No Muslim will EVER be my countryman. I will NEVER trust one of them.
37 posted on 08/11/2013 3:47:51 PM PDT by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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“We respect the freedom of speech,” claimed Victor Begg...

I would really like to see an example of that, please, Mr. Begg. I have yet to see just one.....

Also, islam is not a religion of peace, it is a religion of submission. Bears repeating until all mooselimbs are forced to answer on that "peace" thing.

38 posted on 08/11/2013 4:12:25 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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Hey “Vick’’, let me hip you to something concerning free speech in America, okay? All those things you claim can't be said. Holocaust denial, glorifying Hitler and that hoary old ''fire in a crowed theater'' thing IS FREE SPEECH whether you approve of it or not. Hells Bells dude, you Muslims are always saying the Holocaust never happened but should happen. Free speech in America means just that-free to say what you want. Now you're going to find people who won't agree with what you say, you might even face criminal charges because of it, or you might even get the old "Haymaker''(punch) right in the kisser, and you could face charges for that!(free speech is something else , ain't it?) but no one can deny anyone the right to speak. If that were the case that you could deny someone the right to speak, as you Muslims would like it be, than no one will have that right anymore, catch my drift "Vick''?
39 posted on 08/11/2013 4:23:53 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: beethovenfan

Ain’t it the truth? The bloody sun comes up and they’re pissed off, the sun goes down and they’re pissed off.


40 posted on 08/11/2013 4:26:01 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

An email I got today:

EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT CATHOLIC, THIS IS EYE OPENING...

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no hospitals. Today, one out of five people in this country receive their medical care at a Catholic hospital.

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no schools. Today, the Catholic Church teaches 3 million students a day, in its more than 250 Catholic Colleges and Universities, in its more than 1200 Catholic High Schools and its more than 5000 Catholic grade schools.

Every day, the Catholic Church feeds, clothes, shelters and educates more people than any other organization in the world.

The new Obama Health Mandate could end all this and the tax payers would have to make up the loss.

Also, all Catholic adoption services would come to an end; a human disaster.

There are more than 77 million Catholics in this country. It takes an estimated 50 million Catholic votes to elect a president. I am asking all of you to go to the polls in 2014 and be united in replacing all Senators and Reps with someone who will respect the Catholic Church, all Christians, and all Religions with the exception of Islam.

Mr. President, you said, “The USA is not a Christian Nation”. You are wrong! We are a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian values allowing all religions in America to Worship & Practice Freely. Something Islam will never do.

Oh, by the way, on MUSLIM HERITAGE IN America...

Have you ever been to a Muslim hospital?

Have you heard a Muslim orchestra?

Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade?

Have you witnessed a Muslim charity?

Have you seen Muslims shaking hands with a Muslim Girl Scouts?

Have you seen a Muslim Candy Striper?*

Have you ever seen a Muslim do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?


41 posted on 08/11/2013 4:27:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: boycott

They prove that Islam is NOT a religion, but a POLITICAL system masquerading as a religion. A thug system of governance on par with Fascism, Nazism, Maoism....so on and so forth.


42 posted on 08/11/2013 4:27:34 PM PDT by yadent
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
No!. ALL Muslims are enablers and will be the soldiers who waken to kill when called on.
Islam is Satans cult of death and anybody who say's they should be coddled are fools
and will be slain first by the Islamic infiltrators and murderers.

All Muslim churches should burn for what they've done to the innocent.

43 posted on 08/11/2013 4:29:38 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

It they think this is bad just wait till the Pig Drones are released.


44 posted on 08/11/2013 5:56:07 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

GRRRRREAT post! Thanks. HOORAY EMU! HOORAY Robert Spencer!


45 posted on 08/11/2013 6:24:14 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

These days shouting “Fire!” in a theater would probably be ignored. You would have to text it - so all the drones who are paying more attention to their little pocket god will know it’s happening.


46 posted on 08/11/2013 6:26:13 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Salvation

Very good email, Salvation. Thanks for sharing.


47 posted on 08/11/2013 6:26:33 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: popdonnelly

....but only if you’re a “good muslim” :)


48 posted on 08/11/2013 7:00:10 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

An angry Muslim? That’s weird.


49 posted on 08/11/2013 7:01:13 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: hattend
Then again, have you been inside a theater recently?

No, I haven't, it was from memory :-). Seriously, due to my physical problems, the last time I sat in movie theater seating it was a real challenge to stand up and make my way out of the theater.

The last movie I saw in a theater was "300," and it surprised the heck out of me when I checked imdb for the date, that movie was released in 2006! So it's been about 7 years since I've been to a movie! And I used to absolutely LOVE going to movies.

Mark

50 posted on 08/11/2013 7:45:45 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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