Skip to comments.Pope celebrates Ramadan with call for mutual respect between Muslims and Christians
Posted on 08/11/2013 4:33:18 PM PDT by RaceBannon
Pope Francis on Sunday urged Christians and Muslims to promote mutual respect , especially through the education of new generations. His remarks came at the end of his Angelus address when he sent greetings to Muslims throughout the world who have just celebrated the end of the fasting month of Ramadan.
Text from page http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/08/11/pope_francis_greets_muslims_and_urges_both_christians_and_muslims_to/en1-718872 of the Vatican Radio website
This is the mark of an unbeliever, one who does nto believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, to make any concession of truth to a false religion, regardless of it’s threats of violence.
This Pope is not a Christian.
You can't have a New World Religion without doing such things.
This Pope is not a Christian.
This. Was his speech mistranslated or something? Cannot believe he would go that far.
Last thing I want to do is be near someone who is religiously sworn to kill me.
Ping for later
take a stand....why even MENTION muslims?
“This. Was his speech mistranslated or something? Cannot believe he would go that far.”
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He’s delusional if he thinks he’s going to change the subhuman, murderous muslim/islamic filth, from what they have been, are now, and always will be. They need to be annihilated, not befriended.
As soon as it is mutual then I will Pope Francis. I think you are awesome but if you think that the Muslims are going to play nice, there is no way.
Can’t we just get along? said the frog to the scorpion perched on his back.
Like the frog, the Poppa is delusional if he really believes that.
This pope must be a dope. Respecting a false religion is absurd. What is this guy thinking?
Why would a Christian make such a statement? and as the muslims certainly dont veiw him as any sort of an authority his statement made in conjunction with the end of rama dama ding dong, a death cult “holiday” meant nothing to ANYONE..but One Worlders
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The Pope is saying nothing more than has been said in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, 841: “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”
Also in Lumen Gentium, section 16 (1964): “But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.”
And Nostra Aetate, section 3 (1965): “The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.”
Pope Francis is doing nothing more than reiterating what is, quite frankly, the teachings of the Catholic Church post Vatican II. And all of the above also applies to the Jews as well, so they’re not left out either.
Take that for what that’s worth; I have no dog in this particular hunt.
There is no "mutual".
He did NOT celebrate Ramadan. He spoke to Muslims as they wrapped up their celebration of Ramadan. Is this your headline, or the actual headline? The URL you gave showed a different one.
Ain’t gonna happen.
Ah .... I see where that headline came from - the PPSimmons blog.
I understand your angst. I do. But let me ask you a hypothetical. If the head of the Southern Baptist Convention had said we should have mutual respect between Christians and, I don’t know, say the wiccans, would you feel this reflected poorly on that leader?
Now wiccans are a poor example, because they do not routinely slaughter their theological enemies. But they are adverse to the cause of Christ. I honestly cannot picture the Apostle Paul or John or least of all Jesus offering them the cover of some purported “mutual respect.”
But the subjects of this controversy don’t need and don’t deserve our respect *as muslims.” But we should still love our enemies. And if that had been the approach taken, instead of the treacherous waters of “mutual respect,” I do not think it would have raised so many eyebrows.
This is the mark of a Pope who is trying to convert millions.
Did you read the story about the Pentecostals in Brazil that converted to Catholicism?
“Go out into the whole world, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”
Weren’t those the words of Christ to the apostles before his Ascension?
Boy, that’s an anti-Catholic website, if I ever saw one!
I thought well of this new Pope and have, incident after incident lost those good thoughts.
Funny, Islam will now call for a Jihad against the Pope
amen to that.
we know he’s ssayng that. he is wrong, this teaching of the church is wrong on this. muslims are not saved, they don’t get a pass because they think Mary is awesome, and even more liked than Jesus who they call a liarand not the Son of God.
they have zero inheritance in the One True God - NOT ALLAH - as muslims. just like any other person who does not receive Jesus Christ as God, Savior and Lord.
the wiccan religion does not have a core belief to force conversion or kill those who won’t convert to wicca.
people that want to jihad you to death arent interested in mutual respect.
Now I'll read the rest of the death threats to you
I pray to Him every night for help, but I see this sick reality every day. I’m greatly flawed and a sinner, looking for His help.
You mean that a community of Pentecostals that came into the Catholic Church? Congratuations and WELCOME HOME brothers and sisters!
On this thread
Where're the Catholics ?
I don’t condone what the Muslims do at all. Prayer is what they need.
With God’s help, something will happen here — although we may not live to see it.
If my memory is correct, I think St. Francis of Assisi even preached to a group of Muslims.
You are totally right—why even mention them.
The Pope being a civilized person does not understand the unreasoning hatred in the minds of the true Muslim believer. He is trusting that there will be some bit of humanity that he can appeal to but for the real hardcore Islamists this will appear to be weakness. They will despise the Pope and will be encouraged to provoke him just for spite. When Pope Benedict asked the Muslims to not kill and abuse Christians the top clerics told him to mind his own business. These people are animals, they had every shred of decency drained out of them in their childhood.
Pray for the conversion of ALL, including the Muslims, to Christ.
‘There’s no one on the sidelines when Notre Dame plays SMU.’
The word celebrate is so loaded and dishonest.... there is no time for ramadam in the roman catholic church- conflicts with all the veneration saints days and feasts...
If the Pope is not “reaching out” to the homo movement, he’s pushing for common ground with rabid creatures that make baboons looks relatively civilized.
Pull it together Pope Francis.
LOL pope! Respect the greatest anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-live collective in the history of civilization?
Well-stated, Vendome. Thanks.
My guess is Moslems will never respect Christians. They will always revel in dead ones.
>>>But we should still love our enemies.>>>
I once heard a priest explain the above statement in this way: We cannot love all our enemies. We sometimes even have neighbors we cannot like. What God requires of us is to love the soul he has created. He even said that we do not have to allow them to keep harming us. All came clear to me with that statement.
I do pray for Muslims and their conversion.
It's the same level of respect they give us. That is the definition of MUTUAL.
I am watching the movie about the monks who moved to a housing project in Ireland. It is a reminder that God changes lives on His timetable.
Today’s readings were about having faith and not being afraid.