Posted on 08/12/2013 3:23:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58
Ping.
I wonder if this revisionist pagan (yes, that is really what he is) also wants to excise every “objectionable” portion concerning God’s wrath out of his Word as well.
If there was no wrath of God, there would be no need for a Saviour. Man, do people ever read the Scripture anymore?
That lyric is biblical.
Isaiah 53:10
True Christianity preaches the cross of Christ.
No, no, no, Santa God would never stand up to us.
It's a safe bet that he's not a fan of the gospel song "Minuit, Chrétiens" (Christians, it's midnight), better known in the English-speaking world as "O Holy Night." The original version states that God came to Earth in the form of a man "to erase original sin and to stop the wrath of his father," a concept absent from the English version.
While the lyrics make for a good song, they are not doctrinally correct...God's wrath is visible all thruout the Old Testament...And it did not end with the Crucifixion of Jesus...There's still more wrath to come...
But those who know that should have no problem singing such a beautiful, albeit slightly inaccurate song...
Dear Bob,
Consider, therefore, the kindness and the sternness of God.
sincerely,
Paul, an apostle
Good verse.
IMHO, I would probably try to communicate with those who fail to understand propitiation and atonement by going back over the elements of the Tabernacle and the protocol by which man was able to have fellowship with God.
The Cross was focused upon Judgment.
The Arc of the Covenant had the Mercy Seat upon it. The Mercy Seat had two Cherubim facing one another, representing God’s Perfect Holiness.
His Holiness is comprised of His Perfect Righteousness and His Perfect Justice. One Cherub represented His Perfect Justice. The other represented His Perfect Righteousness.
They would keep each other in check.
Whenever something was placed on the Mercy Seat, which was unrighteous, His Perfect Righteousness demanded Perfect Justice, hence a Perfect Judgment of that before them. In turn, His Perfect Justice demanded a Righteousness Judgment of that laid before them, by Perfect Righteousness.
God’s Integrity demands Judgment of those in His presence and their righteousness.
Without the judgment, there is no integrity in His Holiness.
Our sins have been judged when they were imputed to Jesus Christ and He was judged. Through faith in Christ in what He provided on the Cross in that judgment, we are able to confess our sins, and now God is able to Justly and Righteously forgive us of those sins.
Forgiveness comes after the Cross, but only possible for all mankind by a Holy God at the Perfect Judgment on the Cross. His blood propitiated the wrath of God on the sins of mankind.
That's because he doesn't understand the bible. I wonder if he's Rob Bell fan.
It is when you consider the context of the song.
I wonder if he also has that Clintonian confusion on the meaning of the word "is".
I think in context of this song the lyric IS correct; until one is born again and receives the sacrifice of Jesus blood, and resurrection they are under God’s wrath personally, so in context as in individually to the person yes this line is CORRECT. If you take it to mean universally God’s wrath then it is not correct-but I don’t believe that is what the authors of the song meant (however I don’t know them personally so I cannot ask)!
ping
I love this song- when it comes on the radio, I get goosebumps and tears in my eyes...just so moving, spiritually for me.
The song is sung from the perspective of a born-again believer: “MY hope is found.....etc...” For the believer, there is no wrath to come. It was dealt with and finished upon the cross. So said Christ and so it is. Amen and amen.
The Bible would be a very short book if you exclude all of the passages that speak to God’s wrath against sinners. What would be left - Song of Solomon?
With respect to the sins of justified sinners, those lyrics are nothing but doctrinally correct.
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