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Sergeant dismissed for saying ... nothing
Baptist Press ^ | 8-16-13 | Bonnie Pritchett

Posted on 08/16/2013 4:27:50 PM PDT by ReformationFan

Due to a perceived slight against homosexuality, Senior Master Sgt. Phillip Monk is in a fight for his career. The Lackland Air Force base first sergeant was told by his commanding officer to clear out his office on Aug. 9. The point of contention reportedly is not about anything Monk said, but what he refused to say.

"It's all because he didn't say anything wrong. He thought it," said Steven Branson, pastor of Village Parkway Baptist Church in San Antonio. Monk, his wife and their three teenage sons faithfully attend services each Sunday the pastor said.

Branson said he has been in touch with Monk since the sergeant told him Sunday (Aug. 11) of the untenable situation. The pastor said Monk feels abandoned by the institution he has served for 19 years. Deployed as a medic, Monk devoted himself to saving the lives of his fellow service men and women, according to his pastor.

"Now I'm in trouble," Monk told Branson, "and everybody's leaving me behind."

(Excerpt) Read more at bpnews.net ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 666; consciencefreedom; freedomofconscience; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; lesbonaziagenda; religiousfreedom; religiousliberty; religiouspersecution; usmilitary; whereishitler
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So-called "Tolerance" and "freedom" at their finest. I have to ask, if homosexuality is really so "terrific" and "natural" why do they have to punish anyone who doesn't agree with them and affirm them 24 hours a day/7 days a week? Of course, I think I know the true answer but they'd deny it with a vengeance.
1 posted on 08/16/2013 4:27:50 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

The military now has a “Don’t Think, Don’t Tell” policy concerning Christianity.


2 posted on 08/16/2013 4:29:47 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

It pains me but I would recommend any Christian to stay out of the military and for those in to end NOT re-up.

The military has become a Christian-hostile environment.

I know this is bad for our country in the long run but people of good consciousness should never be forced to serve an immoral master.

Moral slavery is slavery nonetheless (hey! my new tag!)


3 posted on 08/16/2013 4:35:40 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (US Military's anti-Christianity: Moral slavery is slavery nonetheless)
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To: ReformationFan
We are on the Titanic after it hit the iceberg with liberals looking to nuke it to make sure, and what are Republicans doing about it?

WE NEED A NEW PARTY NOW!

4 posted on 08/16/2013 4:36:06 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: freedumb2003

bump

We are becoming Venezuela or maybe Zimbabwe


5 posted on 08/16/2013 4:36:14 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ReformationFan

Seems like the Baptists are the only ones who don’t open their arms in full rainbow-flagged acceptance of homosexuality.


6 posted on 08/16/2013 4:37:27 PM PDT by rlmorel (Illegal aliens don't have to obey our border laws. We don't have to treat them as citizens. Even.)
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To: ReformationFan

We will soon have effectively an all homosexual and women military that will then continue to evolve into an all homosexual(with a few fag hags) military. We are wirjubg ib becoming a Homosexual Nation. Heteros will have dhimmi status in the New Homosexual Order. Liberal heteros will waste no time in proclaiming their adherence to Homosexuality and will change their behaviour entirely to comport with the new Regime.


7 posted on 08/16/2013 4:38:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: ReformationFan

This is how these clowns operate.

I used to kid around and joke with the ladies around the job and on occasion may make a statement like “You must have a hot date tonight OR are you just getting in from a hot date last night”...in fun, nothing meant or implied.
Ladies are like the ‘famous’ athletes...Let a big ‘star’ come to the local watering hole and those that fawn around them are considered ‘pests’ and those that ignore them were considered ‘aholes’ - at least in the mind of the famous.

When the Supervisors etc were getting in trouble for compliments as well as innuendos, I just took the tack of NOT speaking to anyone in the office - Unless I was spoken to first. Wasn’t to hard for me as I didn’t work in the office but I was a General Superintendent in the field and spent a lot of time in the office.
So now I am saying NOTHING, if you said ‘Good Morning’, I would respond, if you asked me a question, I would politely answer it.
NO comments on the weather, work, life etc etc...

Word came down ‘they’ thought I was creating ‘hostile environment’ so I just didn’t come to the office till after everyone left or before they came in. If the owners ‘beckoned’ me to the office, I would invite him(them) to lunch.
Worked for me BUT I wouldn’t pay for lunch....


8 posted on 08/16/2013 4:40:26 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --"People who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to." J. Seinfeld)
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To: arthurus

“We are wirjubg ib becoming”

Lost me there Bro!


9 posted on 08/16/2013 4:45:01 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GeronL

We are. Ever been to Chi-Congo? Notice how many people a week are killed there?


10 posted on 08/16/2013 4:45:03 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: GeronL

>>We are becoming Venezuela or maybe Zimbabwe<<

Kenya.


11 posted on 08/16/2013 4:48:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (US Military's anti-Christianity: Moral slavery is slavery nonetheless)
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To: ReformationFan

Yep. Heading exactly the way I expected, once DADT and DOMA were gone. The persecution of Christians, and the open celebration of faggotry, right in the US Military. This is what you get. And I expect it will go even further downhill from here.

And am I seriously expected to support ‘this’ military?


13 posted on 08/16/2013 4:52:05 PM PDT by greene66
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To: ReformationFan

Purge the Christians and decent folk from the military and leave just atheists and fags. Easier to turn them on us at that point.


14 posted on 08/16/2013 4:54:21 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: freedumb2003
What the hell IS it with the Ait Force ?

Seems like this is the third or so report in the last couple of weeks.

15 posted on 08/16/2013 4:58:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ReformationFan

The Prince wants the military to look like TSA. He is succeeding.


16 posted on 08/16/2013 4:59:07 PM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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To: rlmorel

Independent Baptists ... yep.


17 posted on 08/16/2013 4:59:14 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: bk1000

“Purge the Christians and decent folk from the military and leave just atheists and fags. Easier to turn them on us at that point.”

It’ll also be easier for the rest of us to identify our targets: just look for the men wearing camoflauge uniforms with matching Jimmy Choos!


18 posted on 08/16/2013 5:01:32 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: ReformationFan

**At issue is Monk’s refusal to reveal his personal views regarding homosexual marriage to his commanding officer. According to a Fox News report, the commander, a lesbian, asked Monk to report on disciplinary proceedings for an Air Force instructor under investigation for making objectionable comments about homosexual marriage during a training session.**

Another reasaon women should not be in the armed forces.


19 posted on 08/16/2013 5:02:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: knarf

I grew up Catholic...I am trying to find my way to God as an adult, and I think the Baptists are the only ones that appeal to me.


20 posted on 08/16/2013 5:02:40 PM PDT by rlmorel (Illegal aliens don't have to obey our border laws. We don't have to treat them as citizens. Even.)
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To: ReformationFan

“Crimethink” - wasn’t this defined in Orwell’s “1984”?

There was a time when merely by holding your tongue and committing nothing to paper, there was no way you could be charged with any form of slander or libel. Now, of course, minds may be readily read, much like the NSA listening in on thought waves as well as radio transmissions.

The Thought Police have won an immense victory here. The criminals now may be detected by the merest of inflections or unconscious tics.


21 posted on 08/16/2013 5:03:06 PM PDT by alloysteel (Unattended children will be given a Red Bull and a free Kazoo. Reminds me of Congress...)
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To: knarf

Sounds like she was sexually harassing the man, sex has no place in the military, or lesbo’s don’t have what it takes to command men. Never use to bother me, now its starting to pi$$ me off. That female doesn’t have what it takes to command, just to spout off about homosexually. Ain’t none of her business what he thinks, only what he does....


22 posted on 08/16/2013 5:03:59 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: rlmorel

And the Catholics.

The Catholics will hate the sin but love the sinner. And I would think that is what this person (Monk) would say too.

He’s welcome to come to the Catholic Church any day.


23 posted on 08/16/2013 5:04:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ReformationFan

This is the problem with the existence of “hate crime” legislation.

THINKING something is NOT the same as DOING something.

If I murder you, I am DOING something, and ought to be prosecuted...it does not matter if I murder you because you have something I want, or because you are have a certain color of skin, or because you cut me off in traffic....MURDER is wrong no matter WHO the victim is and no matter the motive.

What “hate crime” thinking does is add on a penalty, and indeed make it a crime to THINK something about a person—it is an attempt to criminalize thought...and that is Orwellian.

I know most of us here on FR realize that, but in case there are lurkers, noobs, or even trolls here that don’t realize the danger they’re creating by supporting such notions as “hate crime”, I want them to know.


24 posted on 08/16/2013 5:04:17 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: freedumb2003
"It pains me but I would recommend any Christian to stay out of the military and for those in to end NOT re-up."

I think all Christians should boycott the military. It is crazy to risk life and limb if some dyke can get you fired for opposing gay marriage, or even suspecting that you do.
25 posted on 08/16/2013 5:07:59 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: xrmusn
I used to kid around and joke with the ladies around the job and on occasion may make a statement like “You must have a hot date tonight OR are you just getting in from a hot date last night”...in fun, nothing meant or implied.

You know the 50 shades of trouble you'd be in if you said that now...

When the Supervisors etc were getting in trouble for compliments as well as innuendos, I just took the tack of NOT speaking to anyone in the office - Unless I was spoken to first. Wasn’t to hard for me as I didn’t work in the office but I was a General Superintendent in the field and spent a lot of time in the office. So now I am saying NOTHING, if you said ‘Good Morning’, I would respond, if you asked me a question, I would politely answer it. NO comments on the weather, work, life etc etc...

You can't be too careful. Nuking it from orbit is the only way to be sure.

Word came down ‘they’ thought I was creating ‘hostile environment’ so I just didn’t come to the office till after everyone left or before they came in. If the owners ‘beckoned’ me to the office, I would invite him(them) to lunch.

I don't know what the lunch part means, but they can't be too surprised when you decide to make yourself scarce. They created the environment that is hostile to you. All you have to do is remind them of the good times that could be had with a return to your more gregarious ways (in a "non-threatening" manner, of course).

26 posted on 08/16/2013 5:08:41 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It wasn't the Rodeo Clown's act, it was the crowd reaction they can't take.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
We are on the Titanic after it hit the iceberg with liberals looking to nuke it to make sure, and what are Republicans doing about it?

It's just a matter of time. I feel for my white European race & I despise them also for sitting on their arses & allowing to be run over by every minority group. Let's have a jihad against any of these fools that belittle a christian.

27 posted on 08/16/2013 5:09:13 PM PDT by Digger
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To: rlmorel

Amen, brother!

We don’t!


28 posted on 08/16/2013 5:11:04 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: ReformationFan

Refused to participate in the Two Minutes of Hate (against Christians and conservatives), did he?


29 posted on 08/16/2013 5:11:28 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: ReformationFan

Thought crimes here here, now, today... It will only become worse.


30 posted on 08/16/2013 5:12:24 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

LOL....me too.


31 posted on 08/16/2013 5:12:26 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: rlmorel

Come on over, rlmorel!

We are happy to have you!


32 posted on 08/16/2013 5:14:27 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Salvation

“The Catholics will hate the sin but love the sinner.”

Catholics don’t have a lock on this.


33 posted on 08/16/2013 5:16:18 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: ReformationFan

Here is the progressive play (I heard about this 15 years ago,in a program of teachers and school advocates, talking about graduation requirements) A person must prove a competency, in the area of : Tolerance of Homosexuality.

That means you no longer have the right to remain silent, because you have to prove that you are tolerant.

Watch for that concept to hit all areas where people are receiving money, funding, pay, support, funding from the federal government.

It will be: Conform or die.


34 posted on 08/16/2013 5:21:45 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: ReformationFan

As more and more queers rise to positions or command or in administrative positions, things are going to get ugly. These people are nasty evil deceitful people and will go to great lengths to get revenge for perceived slights. The queer commander is pursuing this because she believes the first sergeant thinks that she is less than but she doesn’t have any proof. The one thing that the queers can’t order or legislate is acceptance. If I would have been the first sergeant I would have been arranging my transfer from the get go knowing that this type of episode would eventually occur .... there is probably some queer female first sergeant that would love to serve under her.


35 posted on 08/16/2013 5:42:33 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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To: Salvation

Agreed. I am not anti-Catholic, even though I have a couple of personal reasons I might be, it just didn’t feel right as I got older. There are a lot of good clergy and followers in the Catholic church.

I think the Baptists could say the same...I feel that I can. I can feel compassion for homosexuals without feeling the hate, if they really did want to find God. Well I guess even if they don’t, I should feel the same way, but it is hard for me sometimes.


36 posted on 08/16/2013 5:42:40 PM PDT by rlmorel (Illegal aliens don't have to obey our border laws. We don't have to treat them as citizens. Even.)
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To: ReformationFan
This is persecution of a committed Christian by a homosexual lesbian who has shown she has no business wearing the uniform, much less being in command.

As soon as the Supreme Court made that horrific 5-4 decision, the homosexuals have gone on a rampage. Do you remember when they "just wanted to be left alone?" Well, they never wanted that - they wanted applause for their sin, and to "pay back" anyone who ever reminded them that God is alive, and His Word is the ultimate authority.

Moreover, lesbians like his commander have surely been in the military for 20-25+ years to be of the rank of Colonel or above. Do you know what they did when they first joined the military?

They lied!

Homosexuality was not permitted, and the US military used to flat out ask you before you enlisted, enrolled in ROTC, were commissioned, or entered the service academy.

So we have a bunch of lying perverts running around in positions of authority. It is akin to Hitler's SA.

Hungover Hagel is furloughing nurses at Walter Reed and mechanics at Marine bases, but he just can't wait to dole out Millions of dollars to "spouses" of homosexuals.

38 posted on 08/16/2013 5:44:45 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: RetiredTexasVet

“The queer commander is pursuing this”

Remember, evil, not stupid. She knows this man is a Christian and a Baptist and that his church teaches that homosexuality is sinful. This is unconstitutional to discipline the man for his religion.


39 posted on 08/16/2013 5:45:33 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: SkyPilot

:As soon as the Supreme Court made that horrific 5-4 decision, the homosexuals have gone on a rampage. Do you remember when they “just wanted to be left alone?” Well, they never wanted that - they wanted applause for their sin, and to “pay back” anyone who ever reminded them that God is alive, and His Word is the ultimate authority.”

Exactly so. You’re spot on here. It’s not about ‘equality’. It’s about payback - now she’s in a position as his superior she can repay others for her pain and suffering and believes she can get away with this.


40 posted on 08/16/2013 5:47:17 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: ReformationFan

If she’s the CO it’s almost certain she probably didn’t join recently, which means she’s been fraudulently acting as a heterosexual until The Pink Panther got rid of DADT.


41 posted on 08/16/2013 5:49:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Truth2012

“A person must prove a competency, in the area of : Tolerance of Homosexuality.”

Heh. I managed to earn a degree successfully as one of those durn unreconstructed troglodytes. Can’t take it away from me now, liberals!


42 posted on 08/16/2013 5:49:19 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: ReformationFan

It is evident that the demorcrat party is as war with Christians and its spinoff,conservatism, and is purging the political offices and all its unions of the good news. If any one believes in his heart and confesses with his mouth how that Jesus Christ was crucified for our sins and rose again the third day ,he shall be saved. Satan is on the move world wide and the Christian influenced nation of America is under attack from the murderer and liar he is while he is using pawns of atheism who are servants. The democrats and their cohort rinos will die and open their eyes in hell as the rich man in the gospels did.


43 posted on 08/16/2013 5:49:41 PM PDT by kindred ( God is just and the justifier of him that believes in Jesus.)
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To: freedumb2003

“It pains me but I would recommend any Christian to stay out of the military and for those in to end NOT re-up.”

I’ve been saying this for some time as well. The military is an entity
In which Christian values are no longer welcome. Please, FReepers and friends, steer your family members and other young people for whom you have a high regard AWAY from the military. I also strongly advise active-duty Christians to exit as soon as feasible.


44 posted on 08/16/2013 5:49:47 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: freedumb2003

bada boom bada bing

.. I was thinking Tudor England - “I will not swear, and I will not say why I will not swear.”


45 posted on 08/16/2013 5:50:11 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Salvation

At issue is Monk’s refusal to reveal his personal views regarding homosexual marriage to his commanding officer.


A modern day “Thomas Moore.”


46 posted on 08/16/2013 5:50:43 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: SampleMan
General Mark Welsh, the Air Force Chief of Staff, needs to put a stop to this, yesterday.

This is out of control. The lesbian commander is out of control.

God will not be mocked.

47 posted on 08/16/2013 5:50:52 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SoFloFreeper

When I began to see the insidious metastatic invasion of Political Correctness in our society, I became an enemy of it immediately.

There are many liberal precepts I despise (such as moral relativism and open immigration) but of all of them, Political Correctness seems the most offensive to me.

As in Orwell’s 1984, with political correctness today, they expect you to police yourself and censor yourself. That really eats at me.

Normal people DO censor themselves, but we do it based on our own values, not values impressed on us by a government or the lackeys who work in it.


48 posted on 08/16/2013 5:51:45 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: ReformationFan

Be nice if they posted the carpet munchers name.. I’d send a few emails.


50 posted on 08/16/2013 5:55:37 PM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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