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Huge Failure in Catechesis: Survey: only 13% of Catholics think IVF is morally wrong
Catholic Culture ^ | August 19, 2013 | Diogenes

Posted on 08/19/2013 2:21:00 PM PDT by NYer

Only 13% of Catholics--and 12% of Americans--believe that in vitro fertilization is morally wrong, according to a new Pew Research survey. 33% of Americans judge the procedure morally acceptable, while 46% say that it is not a moral issue.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith discussed the immorality of in vitro fertilization in its instructions Donum Vitae (1987) and Dignitas Personae (2008).

The survey also found that 49% of Americans believe that abortion is morally wrong, while 15% say it is morally acceptable and 23% say it is not a moral issue. 64% of Hispanic Catholics and 53% of white Catholics surveyed said that abortion is morally wrong, though among “white Catholics who attend Mass at least once a week,” the figure rises to 74%.

22% of Americans--and 24% of Catholics--said they believe that embryonic stem cell research, which involves the destruction of human embryos, is morally wrong. In addition, 21% of Catholics said that they believe that adult stem-cell research is morally wrong, despite Church pronouncements that it is morally licit.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Science; Theology
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1 posted on 08/19/2013 2:21:01 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Moral implications

Obviously, IVF eliminates the marriage act as the means of achieving pregnancy, instead of helping it achieve this natural end. The new life is not engendered through an act of love between husband and wife, but by a laboratory procedure performed by doctors or technicians. Husband and wife are merely sources for the "raw materials" of egg and sperm, which are later manipulated by a technician to cause the sperm to fertilize the egg.

Invariably several embryos are brought into existence; only those which show the greatest promise of growing to term are implanted in the womb. The others are simply discarded or used for experiments. This is a terrible offense against human life. While a little baby may ultimately be born because of this procedure, other lives are usually snuffed out in the process.

Reproductive Technology

2 posted on 08/19/2013 2:21:36 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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3 posted on 08/19/2013 2:23:39 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: NYer

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4 posted on 08/19/2013 2:25:47 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: NYer
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5 posted on 08/19/2013 2:43:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Let’s all send this to the Young Adult coordinators in our parishes.


6 posted on 08/19/2013 2:46:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Let’s all send this to the Young Adult coordinators in our parishes.


7 posted on 08/19/2013 2:46:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I think it is wrong yet had no significant catechesis in my entire life. But I guess those who don’t get it intuitively need to be taught.


8 posted on 08/19/2013 2:51:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: NYer

I’d say the biggest problem with IVF is the fact that the “extras” are either thrown out, frozen for years, or experimented on.


9 posted on 08/19/2013 2:58:50 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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"" . . . yet had no significant catechesis in my entire life."

I've been running into a lot of that since I became Catholic. Seems like a large percentage of Catholics had parents who thought they'd just absorb everything or didn't have much catechesis themselves and saw no need for it.

Or is it like Michael Voris was saying and most Catholic schools dropped the ball and went stupid after V II?

11 posted on 08/19/2013 3:29:44 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: chandlerlansing

Lutherans for life agrees with this for ivf procedures entails the destruction or freezing of embryos, and even those lucky enough to be implanted have a high miscarriage and birth defect risk caused by the procedure.


12 posted on 08/19/2013 3:30:41 PM PDT by cotton
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To: chandlerlansing; cotton; Salvation; lightman
I see nothing wrong with IVF because again, that is creating life.

From the link I posted above ...

To avoid the problems of carrying and rearing "too many" babies after several have been implanted, doctors sometimes engage in something euphemistically called "fetal reduction" or "selective reduction." Here they monitor the babies in utero to see if any have defects or are judged to be less healthy than the others. They eliminate those "less desirable" babies by filling a syringe with potassium chloride, maneuvering the needle toward the "selected" baby in the womb with the aid of ultrasound, and then thrusting the needle into the baby's heart. The potassium chloride kills the baby within minutes, and he or she is expelled as a "miscarriage." If it cannot be determined that one baby is less healthy than the others, some doctors simply eliminate the baby or babies who are easiest to reach. Again we see the unspeakable diminishing of the value of human life which can arise from this procedure.

Now, how do you feel about IVF?

13 posted on 08/19/2013 3:39:41 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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I understand your point of view. However when my husband and I struggled with having children and I had my second tubal pregnancy. I went to start IVF. Sitting in the office of the most recommended Fertility specialist in Santa Monica, I couldn't get out of there fast enough. All she did was describe the procedure and I physically became ill (often my body is very sensitive issues my mind and soul reject.)

The truncated version that made me ill. They fertilize several eggs and see which ones take and then place others in the uterus. They say they destroy the others. That to me is death of living beings. I could not bear it. Later of course we come to find out many of these are used in testing.

Either way I could not live with it morally. I can't judge others regarding this issue for me own personal reasons, but for me it did not sit right in my soul. I remain childless and did not chose adoption for my own reasons as well. God Bless!

14 posted on 08/19/2013 3:44:02 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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Yes. And this is the other reason I did not go forward with it. I would rather live without than to kill a child. I must say though honestly, I did have an abortion when I was very young and my soul suffers to this day. I could not take another life. It would have been based on my own selfish want. I posted earlier I chose not to have IVF for spiritual/moral reasons because they also ‘get rid’ of already fertilized eggs that don’t go into the uterus.


15 posted on 08/19/2013 3:50:36 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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So you take an egg from the married woman and her husband donates his sperm because for some reason the woman couldn’t conceive the normal way. So this is somehow morally wrong to some people?


16 posted on 08/19/2013 4:11:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Rashputin

...most Catholic schools dropped the ball and went stupid after V II....

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I’d say that’s your answer. I attended 12 years of Catholic school in the 1950s and ‘60s. Nearly all of my teachers were dedicated teaching sisters who gave me a solid academic foundation along with strong religious training.

Today, in the average American Catholic school, sisters are pretty much extinct, and the religion department is a tangled mass of confusion and feel-goodism.


17 posted on 08/19/2013 4:35:39 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: SkyDancer

See my post #13.


18 posted on 08/19/2013 4:55:18 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: chandlerlansing

IVF creates life where life would not normally exist. This amounts to nothing more than a human ‘playing God’. IVF almost always involves the creation of extra embryos. Often, one or more embryos is selectively destroyed so that the mother does not have triplet or quadruplet births.

A similar moral argument can be made against euthanasia. It is one thing to not prolong a terminally ill person’s life through extraordinary means, however, the intentional murder of a terminally ill person to expedite death is wrong. Think Terri Schiavo.


19 posted on 08/19/2013 5:09:21 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NYer

Then there is ultra-sound used to check on babies health in the womb plus checking the embryonic fluid. If the parents elect to abort, then what the difference in what you wrote? Just asking.


20 posted on 08/19/2013 5:13:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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