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WaPo Assails Non-Profit Status for Churches, Rips Americans for Giving
Breitbart's Big Journalism ^ | August 23, 2013 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 08/24/2013 12:21:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The assault on America’s churches has begun, with commentators like Dylan Matthews of the Washington Post and Matthew Yglesias of Slate calling on the government to tax churches. “Whichever faith you think is the one true faith, it’s undeniable that the majority of this church-spending is going to support false doctrines,” Yglesias wrote on Thursday. He added, “upgrading a church’s physical plant doesn’t enhance the soul-saving capacity of its clergy.”

This is part of the new assault on religion in America that has seen its apex in the New Mexico Supreme Court decision to force religious photographers to cover same-sex weddings, and the California legislature’s bill that would strip non-profit status from any religious organization that “discriminates” on the basis of factors including religion or sexual orientation. The fundamental basis for this assault lies in the left’s core belief that religion in America is a net negative, and that the state has no interest whatsoever in forwarding the religion broadly throughout the country. Yglesias’ theory that religions are mutually exclusive misses the point – Judeo-Christian religion fosters morality among members of the public. The founders understood that truth, Americans historically understood that truth, and the left wishes to undermine that truth. Separation of church and state, according to the left, means that the state not only must be banned from fostering religion of any sorts, but that the state must override private religious practice on behalf of secularism.

The Post’s Matthews quickly followed up on Yglesias’ piece by suggesting that Americans are dupes for handing their charitable contributions over to their churches.....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: charity; homosexualagenda; taxes

1 posted on 08/24/2013 12:21:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Evil bastards are playing with fire.


2 posted on 08/24/2013 12:38:30 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

They are evil but they are just following their leader.


3 posted on 08/24/2013 12:42:59 AM PDT by funfan
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"I'll Be The Fire"
4 posted on 08/24/2013 12:46:18 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How ironic that Matthew Yglesias is speaking out against churches. I think one of the common Spanish words for Church would be the word IGLESIAS.


5 posted on 08/24/2013 12:50:05 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

One could be named Moses ben Israel or Christopher Paxson and still be a hard-core leftist atheist.


6 posted on 08/24/2013 12:52:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And they don’t say anything to liberals giving to nefarious causes ? shame shame on them.


7 posted on 08/24/2013 1:07:40 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s really happening. We knew this was going to happen some day and now it is.


8 posted on 08/24/2013 1:09:09 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Upgrading government does nothing to save people either Moron


9 posted on 08/24/2013 1:09:55 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The House Church and the Unregistered Church is going to make a come back


10 posted on 08/24/2013 1:10:24 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The left has finally gone and went:

Full Soviet


11 posted on 08/24/2013 1:23:40 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Odd, but they don’t say anything about taxing mosques along with churches.

Just an accidental oversight, I presume.


12 posted on 08/24/2013 1:27:35 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

A house church where the pastor is paid with donated food, clothes and meals at parishioners homes. How long before they devise a way to tax that?


13 posted on 08/24/2013 1:30:59 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

All in good time. Can’t turn up to the heat too quickly, the frogs will jump out of the pot.


14 posted on 08/24/2013 1:33:09 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

true


15 posted on 08/24/2013 1:33:44 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Fresh Wind

Huckabee: Churches
Should Consider
Dropping Tax-Exempt
Status

As reported by Newsmax

Churches should consider giving up
their tax-exempt status if keeping it
means allowing the government to tell
them what to say, says Mike Huckabee.

The former
Arkansas gover-
nor, GOP presiden-
tial candidate, and
current Fox News
talk show host also
is an ordained
Baptist minister.
He made the com-
ment on Monday during a minister’s
conference in Houston, Texas, ahead of
the annual Southern Baptist Convention
meeting.

“Keep your deductions. Keep the
exemptions. We stand more faithful
with what God would have us to say,
and we choose our freedom more than
our financial benefit,” Huckabee said,
according to Associated Baptist Press.
Recent revelations that the Internal
Revenue Service has been targeting
groups that are conservative and pro-
Israel should be an alert to people of
faith, Huckabee said. The Thomas More
Society has complained that IRS offi-
cials asked anti-abortion groups in
Texas and Iowa about the content of
their prayers when the groups sought
tax-exempt status.

“You may not clap real loud for this,
but at least hear me out and think about
it and pray about it,” Huckabee told the
pastors. “I think we need to recognize
that it may be time to quit worrying so
much about the tax code and start think-
ing more about the truth of the living
God.”

excerpted

http://unregisteredbaptistfellowship.org/index.php/trumpet-doc/trumpet-july-sept-2013


16 posted on 08/24/2013 1:36:34 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This was inevitable.

Most ‘churches’ out there are vanity projects for ‘preachers’ with God complexes...who preach doctrines of homosexuality and the DNC platform.

And people still have not woken up to the fact that it was done intentionally, bu the DNC/Libs for this very purpose. People of faith had the ultimate scam ran on them and they welcomed it due to their very faith.

The catholic faith leadership refuses to condemn and excom pols like Pelosi/homosexual pushing followers, The Baptists and other protestant faiths have split 8 ways to Wednesday over political hot issues...

And now, powerless to do anything, their unity broken, the Dem/Libs who engineered it go for the killing blow.

Perhaps if the leaders had stuck to their biblical teachings and held wrong to account, they would not be in a mess of their own making.

And it really upsets me .


17 posted on 08/24/2013 1:42:20 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The assault on America’s churches has begun, with commentators like Dylan Matthews of the Washington Post and Matthew Yglesias of Slate calling on the government to tax churches.

I don't see why Bill Gates doesn't get more criticism from the right. He's the one who founded and funds Slate. I think it would be ridiculous to think that it doesn't really reflect Bill Gate's thinking.

18 posted on 08/24/2013 1:57:20 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They know we will not do anything.

They are in a full court press now that they face the weakest generation the US has yet produced.


19 posted on 08/24/2013 2:02:01 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: GeronL
A house church where the pastor is paid with donated food, clothes and meals at parishioners homes. How long before they devise a way to tax that?

They plenty of churches working on their side on that to just outlaw house meetings .(look at other countries and you will see exactly which church is behind that)

20 posted on 08/24/2013 2:19:38 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people are confused. The doctrine of separation of church and state is not just about keeping the church from using the power of government to foist itself on the people; it is also about keeping the government from using its power against the church.

Of course, these people may not be confused at all. They may well be wanting to use the power of government to remove the church as a independent institution and make it subservient to the state. Totalitarians of all stripes (Nazis, Communists, etc.) do this as a matter of course.


21 posted on 08/24/2013 2:37:03 AM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: Fresh Wind
"Odd, but they don’t say anything about taxing mosques along with churches. Just an accidental oversight, I presume."

Of course... Just a combination of our Muslim leadership leading us to the slaughter and the knowledge that moving against mosques would get them killed.

22 posted on 08/24/2013 2:45:51 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

It’s Time For Activisim

If FR’s really want to do somethibng about this.Church goers and true believers should start up your printers and when you go to services print up a batch and tuck a copy of the summary provided by 2nd Div vet under the windshield wipers in the church parking lot. Likewise pass em out in your precinct.


23 posted on 08/24/2013 3:11:18 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: GeronL

24 posted on 08/24/2013 3:20:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If “separation of Church and State” is to be the law of the land then it has to work both ways. Taxing the church is a violation of the constitution.


25 posted on 08/24/2013 3:59:13 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“upgrading a church’s physical plant doesn’t enhance the soul-saving capacity of its clergy.”

Judas thought the same way.

Hey, Jeff Bezos is doing a great job with the Post. Kinda makes you want to boycott Amazon.

26 posted on 08/24/2013 4:02:53 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: GeronL
The House Church and the Unregistered Church is going to make a come back

Yes. It would also sober up a lot of priests and pastors.

27 posted on 08/24/2013 4:04:20 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
New Mexico Supreme Court decision to force religious photographers to cover same-sex weddings

If I were 'forced' to photograph a wedding or bake a cake for one, it would be truly memorable. Nothing in focus, heads cut off, etc. The cake would be inedible, and have the scent of homosexual sex.

28 posted on 08/24/2013 4:04:36 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Charity.
The only time and money and items I give in charity are ones that I KNOW I CAN CONTROL.
That means through my church. People that I know get help with utility bills during unemployment, food, clothing for children etc. Through Children’s Ministry I learn of kids that I can help support decent, moral activities for them to be involved in.
The other way in give is through service and help for veterans. But not through Government or National organizations. Through biker rides to directly support 2 VA Hospitals. Through the Patriot Guard to assist and honor veterans and families at passing. Through sponsored biker events to assist wounded warriors get into homes that allow them some mobility. I give thousands of dollars of cash time and items each year. I KNOW that it directly helps people in my Community. The money that the Government takes from me goes to help pay for abortion (I was adopted) help muslims in Countries that are killing our soldiers etc.


29 posted on 08/24/2013 4:15:26 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Christians won’t save their own children from the ungodly teaching the children are indoctrinated into every day at school, their masters know they won’t stand up for the freedom of their churches, either. Lazy, weak Christians are no witnesses to Jesus and value “peace” over their faith.


30 posted on 08/24/2013 5:06:46 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The clause Separation of Church and State was in the Soviet Constitution, not the US Constitution.


31 posted on 08/24/2013 8:59:20 AM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I don’t think Bezos has control there, yet.


32 posted on 08/24/2013 2:55:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I boycotted Amazon a long time ago when I found out that they supported Planned Parenthood.


33 posted on 08/24/2013 3:31:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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