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3 Common Traits of Youth Who Don't Leave the Church
Christian Post ^ | 8-24-13 | John Daniel

Posted on 08/24/2013 10:20:59 AM PDT by ReformationFan

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1 posted on 08/24/2013 10:20:59 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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Find a way to make morality respected and even rewarded. Heck, make morality a competitive sport, especially in good deeds. Improve on church role models. They must be straight, honest, charitable, good sports, admirable.


2 posted on 08/24/2013 10:26:10 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Vlad the Impaler proposed no path to citizenhip. Consider that.)
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Yes, morality is good and should be encouraged.

But nothing will ever replace conversion. It’s not enough to follow Jesus teachings. One must give one’s life to Christ, and accept the salvation only He can offer.


3 posted on 08/24/2013 10:28:36 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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Are you trying to find the one true faith or keep the youths interested? You may be right. But you are answering the wrong question. Have a blessed day.


4 posted on 08/24/2013 10:35:26 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Vlad the Impaler proposed no path to citizenhip. Consider that.)
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To: keats5

and you have to let their faith be their own... that means letting go and letting God work through their circumstances... prodigal son (cringe)... not too long ago our two sons were debating on whether it was worse to be a wayward son or a prodigal son...


5 posted on 08/24/2013 10:37:14 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: keats5

Yes, but no matter what parents do, children are always susceptible to being captured by our secular, pagan, vulgar culture, even if they are children of pastors. Wanting to fit in and be accepted is of paramount importance to kids, and when everyone else is doing it, then.....


6 posted on 08/24/2013 10:53:06 AM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: ReformationFan

WOW! Great article.

I’m disappointed by the shallowness of Sunday School teaching. In the one hour normally set aside for “school” you would think there would be a primary focus on study. I wonder how much time people devote themselves to studying God’s word verses things like “man day”.

And, yes, this chastisement includes me as well.


7 posted on 08/24/2013 11:13:50 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: ReformationFan; betty boop; marron; Alamo-Girl; CottShop; metmom; xzins; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; ...

Crisis in Christiandom BEEP!


8 posted on 08/24/2013 11:13:52 AM PDT by YHAOS
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At the risk of trying to sound “too spiritual” I think there is another factor. It’s more than living a moral life before them - some lost parents do a pretty good job of that. And it’s more than preaching the Gospel TO them. It’s living the Gospel before them. Do they see us laying down our lives for Christ in the day to day of life. Do they see us struggling to be Christ like - and when we blow it do we seek their forgiveness if we’ve wronged them? Kids need to see that the standard (Christ) is being “applied” to our life as well - even when it’s painful, embarrassing, or humiliating. Are we honest enough with them to let them “see” that in our lives. What’s fair for the goose is fair for the gander. It just seems to be a fact of life that when others share their struggles and failures we feel closer to them because we see them as vulnerable - just like we are. To be fair, also, young married couples, who are believers, with small children are still growing in their their faith - and that is the formative years of their children. Who doesn’t make mistakes? Still, each of my three had their own crisis of faith but came out on the right side. We are all living in Sodom today and evil seems lots stronger than when I was growing up.


9 posted on 08/24/2013 11:20:16 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: keats5

yes, ultimately morality does not equal conversion. everyone lives by a moral code whether they consciously know it or not. morality is subjective and relative and even so one can’t live by your own code perfectly. Even those that live by “I do what I want” fail because they are forced to do things they don’t want to do.

morality never saved anyone. conversion (ie sincerely receiving Jesus as Savior and Lord) saves.


10 posted on 08/24/2013 11:23:05 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I think the problem is more subtle than most people know.

I never said, "We have to go to Church." Therefore, it was never a duty nor was it an option.

I tried to be the best example of what a good Christian should be.

I kept my kids out of government schools, and I never let anyone take over my role as parent.

If my kids ever questioned why we go to Church I would say, "Jesus asked His Apostles to pray with Him for one hour when He was in the garden. The least we can do for Him is to visit Him for one hour a week.

11 posted on 08/24/2013 11:28:53 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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The Judeo-Christian Tradition and Conservatism in general have now become the new cultural underground.

Show trials and pogroms to follow.

12 posted on 08/24/2013 11:39:20 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: HarleyD

This is a very excellent article. It shouldn’t be about the sports and the fun things - they have to be equipped. The should know and understand their faith. Catechesis isn’t just the ‘unfun boring stuff tacked on’, it’s the core of what it should be about.


13 posted on 08/24/2013 11:46:57 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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You wouldn’t let your kids ‘opt out’ of school. Why would you let them opt out of church?

Kids aren’t stupid.


14 posted on 08/24/2013 11:48:41 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: ReformationFan
95% of homeschoolers from highly active evangelical homes remain active 2 years after their home “high school”.

85% of children institutionalized for their schooling are NOT ACTIVE 2 years after high school. These kids are also from highly active evangelical homes.

So?....Do you want the odds in your child's favor or against them?

Answer: Choose homeschooling.

15 posted on 08/24/2013 12:04:13 PM PDT by wintertime
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Show trials and pogroms to follow.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Progroms have already started.

If a person wants to get and keep a job it is now dangerous in many areas of our society to let on that one is a Christian.

And....Look what happened to many people and their jobs during and after Prop 8.

16 posted on 08/24/2013 12:09:09 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: JCBreckenridge

Good point!


17 posted on 08/24/2013 12:09:37 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: NotTallTex

Please read my post #15.

If you want the odds to be 95% in your child’s favor, choose homeschooling.

If you want the odds to be 85% for failure, choose godless and socialist-entitlement K-12 institutionalization for your child’s schooling.


18 posted on 08/24/2013 12:12:14 PM PDT by wintertime
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Pogroms have already started.

Historically speaking, the pogroms have never stopped.

19 posted on 08/24/2013 12:22:47 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Lake Living

Excellent and convicting comments. Thank you.


20 posted on 08/24/2013 1:19:31 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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