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Churches Changing Bylaws After Gay Marriage Ruling
Associated Press ^ | 8/24/13 | Travis Loller

Posted on 08/25/2013 6:17:13 AM PDT by marshmallow

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Worried they could be sued by gay couples, some churches are changing their bylaws to reflect their view that the Bible allows only marriage between one man and one woman.

Although there have been lawsuits against wedding industry businesses that refuse to serve gay couples, attorneys promoting the bylaw changes say they don't know of any lawsuits against churches.

Critics say the changes are unnecessary, but some churches fear that it's only a matter of time before one of them is sued.

"I thought marriage was always between one man and one woman, but the Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision said no," said Gregory S. Erwin, an attorney for the Louisiana Baptist Convention, an association of Southern Baptist churches and one several groups advising churches to change their bylaws. "I think it's better to be prepared because the law is changing. America is changing."

In a June decision, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a provision of the federal Defense of Marriage Act that defined marriage as between a man and a woman for purposes of federal law. A second decision was more technical but essentially ushered in legal gay marriage in California.

Kevin Snider is an attorney with the Pacific Justice Institute, a nonprofit legal defense group that specializes in conservative Christian issues. His organization released a model marriage policy a few years ago in response to a statewide gay marriage fight in California. Snider said some religious leaders have been threatened with lawsuits for declining to perform same-sex wedding ceremonies.

Dean Inserra, head pastor of the 1,000-member City Church Tallahassee, based in Florida, said he does not want to be alarmist, but his church is looking into how best to address the issue.

Inserra said he already has had to say no to.......

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TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: churchbylaws; churches; homonaziagenda; religiousliberty

1 posted on 08/25/2013 6:17:13 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

With the installation of a proper government, acts by homosexuals should become illegal once again. Any demonstrations or parades of their species would be answered by mass arrests and sentences at hard labor on a recently purchased (from la belle France) and renovated Devil’s Island.


2 posted on 08/25/2013 6:21:31 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: marshmallow
"They seem to be under the impression that there is this huge movement with the goal of forcing them to perform ceremonies that violate their freedom of religion," said Justin Lee, executive director of the Gay Christian Network, a nonprofit that provides support for gay Christians and their friends and families and encourages churches to be more welcoming. "If anyone tried to force a church to perform a ceremony against their will, I would be the first person to stand up in that church's defense."

No, no one would ever do that ... extreme sarcasm. The day is coming when the tyranny of the state and the courts will be brought down on all who don't worship Obama and the secular left, and Christians will have to choose.

3 posted on 08/25/2013 6:25:11 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

churches fear that it’s only a matter of time before one of them is sued

Gee, liberals looking for a big pay off trying to force an issue like that? Nah!


4 posted on 08/25/2013 6:29:51 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: Truth29

A photographer is being forced to contract with a gay couple for a marriage, so they don’t have the right to refuse to deal with people on matters against their religious beliefs.

It is already here.


5 posted on 08/25/2013 6:31:20 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: IbJensen

perhaps the westboro “ baptist church” could be of assistant here?

could they be convinced to attempt to hire a “gay couple”.....for some reason?

see where Im going? they would most certainly refuse “service” to “westboro”..thereby creating a LEGAL PRECEDENT....and the rest would be history


6 posted on 08/25/2013 6:31:37 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: marshmallow

The should not be performing any weddings for non members.
If they followed the bible they would know what they are suppose to do with members that are walking in sin.
It says to toss them out of the congregation


7 posted on 08/25/2013 6:34:25 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: marshmallow

Weasel “Christians,” who don’t follow the Bible’s teaching that “We ought to obey God, rather than men.” That will never happen in the Russian Orthodox Church.


8 posted on 08/25/2013 6:49:37 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: IbJensen
This would be a more appropriate answer:
9 posted on 08/25/2013 6:51:14 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: marshmallow

Back when I was living in MA, I was on my church’s Board of Deacons when the Goodrich case came down. We got concerned enough to consult with a lawyer. Fortunately he was also one of our missionaries.

Turns out, according to him, that a church can discriminate legally, but you have to have a clearly written policy, that backed up the reasoning with scripture, and voted on by the board, or better yet, the membership. That way, when they ask the pastor, he can say “Sorry, church policy.”

Mind you, I’m not sure this approach has been tested...


10 posted on 08/25/2013 7:06:15 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

The photographer you note will need to find a new job in this country or maybe do their wedding work in Russia. :) .... best thing if your business is important to you would be to say sorry, I am booked that day... If God and His word is more important and you profess your beliefs and you face lawsuits and potential to lose your business, well, they hated Him first...


11 posted on 08/25/2013 7:19:08 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: Truth29

A true Christian Church would regard this as just another new persecution. Bullying, whether it be by another religion, or by upstart revolutionaries that would overturn tradition and doctrine that is clearly prescribed and substitute their own “reinterpretation” of the Gospels, are in no wise different from the Worldwide Caliphate of Islam or the Communist leaders of revolution in what had once been representative republics.

Either way, this bullying has as its objective the intimidation and subjugation of the truly free exercise of religion.

It is a tough time to be a Christian.


12 posted on 08/25/2013 7:23:08 AM PDT by alloysteel (Unattended children will be given a Red Bull and a free Kazoo. Reminds me of Congress...)
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To: marshmallow

Can we dispense with the “gay” euphemism already? Must the homosexual lobby insist on sanitizing and obfuscating the pathology of homosexuality? The deception is akin to referring to illegal aliens as “undocumented immigrants”.


13 posted on 08/25/2013 7:38:55 AM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: windsorknot
Can we dispense with the “gay” euphemism already?

Amen brother! Homosexuality is a DISORDER. SSAD, Same Sex Attraction Disorder to be precise. Humans would become extinct if it was the norm.

14 posted on 08/25/2013 7:46:46 AM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: mc5cents

“Humans would become extinct if it was the norm.”

That could be a good thing for certain politically- and socially-inclined maroons!


15 posted on 08/25/2013 10:00:43 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: zot; Interesting Times

food for thought.


16 posted on 08/25/2013 11:07:06 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: marshmallow

http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/08/23/joseph-bottum-weary-and-wearisome/

Joseph Bottum has stated what he believes, after he left First Things.

That attitude is very common. So much so that I fully expect that a major push will happen soon.


17 posted on 08/25/2013 11:28:31 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: GreyFriar

Federal and state laws and court decisions trump church bylaws.


18 posted on 08/25/2013 4:06:55 PM PDT by zot
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To: marshmallow

If it’s a “bylaw” then I think I see the problem.


19 posted on 08/25/2013 7:44:11 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: zot

Not really.


20 posted on 08/26/2013 2:16:04 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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