Skip to comments.The Interior Locutions of Fr. Stefano Gobbi
Posted on 09/05/2013 10:56:14 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
KNOWN AS: "Interior Locutions of Fr. Stefano Gobbi; "To The Priests Our Lady's Beloved Sons."
SEER: Father Stefano Gobbi.
LOCATION: Milan, Italy.
YEARS: 1972 - Present
The book "To The Priests Our Lady's Beloved Sons" is distributed by "The Marian Movement Of Priests."
The Roman Catholic Church has never officially recognized the interior locutions of Fr. Stefano Gobbi as being of a heavenly nature.
In reviewing the interior locutions of Fr. Stefano Gobbi, the writer asks himself, "If these alleged locutions had been claimed by a Roman Catholic lay person anywhere in the world, would the local Church authorities have accepted them or condemned them?" The sad answer to this question is, "They would have been rejected as not being divinely inspired because some of the content does not embrace Catholic beliefs." The question then remains, "Why has the clergy remained silent for 25 years by refusing to speak up against these false claims?"
The alleged interior locutions of Fr. Stefano Gobbi are riddled with so many doctrinal errors, false prophecies and deceptions that only a few extracts are being quoted from the book "To The Priests Our Lady's Beloved Sons" to clearly show that these writings are not divinely inspired as alleged, but rather, they are Fr. Stefano Gobbi's personal reflections. (If Fr. Gobbi wishes to maintain that the locutions are not his personal reflections, then it must be concluded that they are spiritual manifestation of a demonic nature because some of the locutions oppose the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church.)
1) THE ONLY LIGHT LEFT BURNING:
On January 4, 1975, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him by interior locution, [See # 67(n)] "You also will be persecuted: the time will come when you will be the only light left burning, and thus, through your fidelity to the Gospel and your sufferings, you will be able to point out the way of salvation to a vast number of souls. And through my intervention, this light of yours will never be completely extinguished."
(The reference to "you" in the aforementioned is a reference to the cohors of priests who belong to the Marian Movement of Priests. It excludes all other priests.)
To claim that Father Gobbi and his followers, the priests of the Marian Movement of Priests "will be the only light left burning," is a claim that at some point in the history of the Roman Catholic Church, while Fr. Gobbi is still living, no one else will be inspired by the Holy Spirit. It is a claim that the Pope, the Cardinals, the Bishops, the priests, the religious brothers and sisters, and all the faithful who do not belong to the Marian Movement of Priests will be walking in the darkness of Satan. All will have lost their faith.
Such a claim is an attack on the infallibility of the Holy Catholic Church, contrary to the teachings of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. See # 889, 890, 891, 2035, 2051. Number 891 states,
[Catechism # 891] "The Roman Pontiff, head of the college of bishops, enjoys this infallibility in virtue of his office, when, as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful - who confirms his brethren in the faith he proclaims by a definitive act a doctrine pertaining to faith or morals.... The infallibility promised to the Church is also present in the body of bishops when, together with Peter's successor, they exercise the supreme Magisterium," above all in an Ecumenical Council. When the Church through its supreme Magisterium proposes a doctrine "for belief as being divinely revealed," and as the teaching of Christ, the definitions "must be adhered to with the obedience of faith." This infallibility extends as far as the deposit of divine Revelation itself."
2) PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION OF OUR LADY:
On April 25, 1975, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 72(l)(m); 425(f), etc...] "The time will come when some of my priest-sons are preparing to openly oppose my Son, myself, the Pope and the Church." I will then be no longer able to recognize them as my children; I myself will come down from heaven to place myself as the head of the cohort of my beloved sons, and I will crush their plots." "I am coming down from heaven."
Are we to believe for one moment, that to conquer the spiritual battle between Our Lady and Satan, that the Blessed Virgin Mary will come down from Heaven by manifesting herself in physical form to lead the physical army of Marian priests for the purpose of destroying Satan who has a spiritual body? This is an impossibility!
The final victory of the Immaculate Heart of Mary is a spiritual victory, not a physical one. As the Holy Catholic Church teaches us, our battle against evil and sin is a spiritual battle.
[Catechism # 405] "Baptism, by imparting the life of Christ's grace, erases original sin and turns a man back towards God, but the consequences for nature, weakened and inclined to evil, persist in man and summon him to spiritual battle.
3) DIVINELY GUIDED:
On October 24, 1975, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 84(r)] "Thus it will again be the Spirit who will speak in you, and by means of the Spirit, making use of you, the whole world will be completely renewed."
(The reference to "you" in the aforementioned is a reference to the cohors of priests who belong to the Marian Movement of Priests. It excludes all other priets.)
Through only the priests of the Marian Movement of Priests, it is alleged that the whole world will be completely renewed. This statement is in harmony with the endless references in the book to new things such as: a new birth # 160(e)(l); a new heaven # 265(e); a new earth # 265(e); a new time # 302(q); a new Covenant # 328(i); a new Church # 10(n), 161(g)(q); a new Jerusalem # 242)e); a new Israel # 242(d); a new world # 10(n); etc... What is Father Gobbi saying here? Is this not saying that the whole Church will fall from the grace of God and need a renewal? Is this not saying that those who are not members of the Marian Movement of priests, the Pope, the Cardinals, the Bishops, everyone, even you as Catholics will fall from the grace of God and need a renewal.
What happened to the Sacred Words of Jesus when He said to Peter, "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the GATES OF HADES WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT." [Mt. 16:18] What are we to believe, that Jesus lied, the gates of Hades have prevailed and that the Catholic Church is in need of a renewal as alleges the private locutions of Fr. Gobbi?
Are we to believe there will be a new heaven and a new earth as Fr. Gobbi alleges in # 365(e)? What about the Sacred Words of Jesus that are spoken in the Holy Scriptures?
"Truly, I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away." [Mt. 24:34-5]
Are we to believe Jesus Christ, our Saviour, or the alleged locutions of Father Stefano Gobbi that oppose the Sacred Words of Our Lord? All of Father Gobbi's claims of new things and renewals are false and deceptive claims. They are a distortion of the truths that are being taught by the Holy Catholic Church. They oppose the Sacred Words of Jesus. They serve no other purpose but to lead the faithful towards deceptions and false hopes.
4) NEW SAVIOURS:
On November 25, 1975, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 87(d) "In fact, as your Mother, I have gathered you all into my Immaculate Heart. Here is your refuge, the altar on which you will be immolated for the salvation of the world."
Our Christian faith teaches us that there is only ONE Saviour, Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God. Even our separated brothers and sisters from other religions know this truth, many being ready to die for it! We were saved by the Divine Blood of Christ!
Are we to believe that we will be saved by the human blood of Fr. Gobbi and the priests in his following who belong to the Marian Movement of Priests who will be immolated for the salvation of the world? Is this statement not raising Fr. Gobbi and his followers on an equal to God? Are we to believe for one moment that the perfect sacrifice of the Blood of Christ was insufficient for our salvation and that we now need imperfect sacrifices, over and above the perfect sacrifice of the Lamb of God? When human beings are raised equal to God, claiming that their sacrifices will save souls, this is an abomination, a sacrilege, a total disregard for the redemptive Divine Plan of Christ. This is diabolic!
5) THE FALLING OF THE CHURCH:
On February 10, 1978, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 147(d)(e)] "Darkness will descend upon the Church and will become even more dense after your heavenly Mother has come to get the soul of the first of her beloved sons, Pope Paul VI, who is consummating on the cross his supreme sacrifice." "As long as he lives, thanks to his grievous martyrdom, I can still hold back the arm of God's justice. But after his death, ALL WILL COME CRASHING DOWN."
Pope Paul VI died in 1978. He was succeeded by Pope John-Paul I who also died in the same year, 1978. Now according to Fr. Gobbi, the Virgin Mary told him that starting with the Papacy of John-Paul I, the Catholic Church was supposed to come crashing down. Has it? No! Again, it is asked, did Jesus not say that the gates of Hades would not prevail against His Church? Not only is this false locution a false prophecy, but it also opposes the Sacred Promise of Jesus Christ.
6) THE SECOND BIRTH OF CHRIST:
On December 24, 1978, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 166(e)(h)] "His second coming, beloved children, will be like the first. As was his birth on this night, so also will be the return of Jesus in glory, before his final coming for the last judgment, the hour of which, however, is still hidden in the secrets of the Father." "He will come to establish his kingdom in the world, after having defeated and annihilated his enemies."
And on December 24, 1983, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 279(j)(k)] "Prepare yourselves for the return of Jesus in glory." "His second birth is close at hand."
The teaching of millenarianism, alleging that Christ shall return to earth, either by physical birth or glorious return, to reign on the earth for a period a time, is a false teaching that has been around since the first century and condemned by the Holy Catholic Church. On this subject, the Catechism of the Holy Catholic Church states:
# 675 "Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the "mystery of iniquity" in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo -messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh."
# 676 "The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgement. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism, especially the "intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism."
It is sufficient here to say that the Holy Catholic Church refers to this belief as the Antichrist's deception.
7) THE ILLUMINATING OF ALL CONSCIENCES:
On May 22, 1988, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 383(d)] The Holy Spirit "will open the doors of hearts and illuminate all consciences. Every person will see himself in the burning fire of divine truth. It will be like a judgment in miniature. And then Jesus Christ will bring his glorious reign in the world."
Here, it is interesting to point out that Dr. Gianna Talone-Sullivan of Emmitsburg, near Baltimore, USA, also claimed some of the beliefs of Fr. Gobbi as being her own personal locutions. She alleged that the Blessed Virgin Mother told her that Jesus would return as a child and "That the time was coming when at one single moment everyone on earth will see simultaneously the state of their souls and know with certainty that God exists." In other words, their consciences would be illuminated.
On September 8, 2000, the Archdiocese of Baltimore issued a statement with the approval of Cardinal William H. Keeler, indicating that it "finds no basis" for the alleged apparitions and messages of the Blessed Virgin Mary which Gianna Talone-Sullivan claimed to receive during the Thursday evening prayer services at St. Joseph in Emmitsburg."
Now, if the alleged locutions of Dr. Gianna Talone-Sullivan, a lay-person, were condemned because of their deceptive nature that opposed the teachings of the Catholic Church, why is it that Fr. Stefano Gobbi is permitted to promote the same deceptions without any condemnation? Is it because he is a member of the clergy? Are members of the clergy allowed to proclaim falsehoods while the lay members of the Church are not? Are not all baptized members of the Church equal in the eyes of God and accordingly, they should be treated equally when it comes to discernment of the spirits? If the locutions of Fr. Gobbi are considered to be truthful, then the locutions of Dr. Gianna Talone-Sullivan must also be considered as truthful! But if the locutions of Dr. Gianna Talone-Sullivan have been proven to be deceptions by a Pastor of the Church, then the locutions of Fr. Stefano Gobbi, identical in nature, are also falsehoods and must be declared as such.
8) FALSE PROPHECIES, SECOND COMING:
On September 11, 1988, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our lady told him, [See # 389(d)(f)] "In the period of ten years, there will come to the completion that fullness of time which was pointed out to you by me, beginning with La Salette all the way to my most recent and present apparitions." "In the period of ten years, there will come to the completion the time of the great tribulation, which has been foretold to you in Holy Scripture, before the second coming of Jesus."
According to Fr. Stefano Gobbi, September 11, 1998, was supposed to see the completion of all of Mary's promises that have been given to the world since the days of La Salette, including all the promises that she gave to Fr. Gobbi himself, that including the Second Coming of Jesus. As previously mentioned, the Holy Catholic Church refers to this Second Coming as the Antichrist's deception. We do not have to look far for proof of the deception. 1998 came and went - nothing happened. As a general rule, Church approved spiritual manifestations reflect a HONEST Virgin Mary. When she says she will give a sign, she gives it, such as the dancing sun in Fatima on October 13, 1917. The problem that we have here is that the Virgin Mary that Fr. Gobbi knows is one that lies, that makes broken promises, that contradicts the teachings of the Catholic Church, etc... That is not the Virgin Mary that the Holy Catholic Church promotes, nor is it the Mother of God, nor the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
9) RESTORATION OF THE KINGDOM ON EARTH:
On March 26, 1989, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 402(f)] "Christ Risen wills to restore his kingdom in your midst, that He may be glorified by the whole created universe."
Our faith teaches us that the Holy Catholic Church is the beginning of the Kingdom of God on earth. Its mission has been blessed by the guidance and protection of the Holy Spirit who has been actively involved since the Day of Pentecost.
Catechism # 768, "So that she can fulfill her mission, the Holy Spirit "bestows upon [the Church] varied hierarchic and charismatic gifts, and in this way directs her." "Henceforward the Church, endowed with the gifts of her founder and faithfully observing his precepts of charity, humility and self-denial, receives the mission of proclaiming and establishing among all peoples the Kingdom of Christ and of God, and she is on earth the seed and the beginning of that kingdom."
To claim that the Holy Catholic Church is in need of being restored is a two-fold claim:
1) It is a claim that the gates of Hades have prevailed against the Holy Catholic Church, therefore requiring that it be restored;
2) It is a claim that the Holy Spirit, who is God, has failed to guide and preserve the Holy Catholic Church against the forces of evil.
Although it cannot be denied that the Holy Catholic Church has had its share of crosses to bear during the last few decades, such crosses have been no different then the crosses it has had to bear since the institution of the Holy Catholic Church on earth by Jesus Christ. Through suffering, the Church has been strengthened. Through suffering and its continued existence, evidence is put forward that the Holy Spirit has been actively involved in the guidance and protection of the Holy Catholic Church. And, if we are to accept that the Holy Spirit has been present in the Holy Catholic Church to guide it and to preserve it, then how can we believe that the Church is in need of restoration? We cannot! Furthermore, if we are to accept that the Holy Spirit has failed in His mission to guide and preserve the Holy Catholic Church, then we have to reassess His perfect Divinity. But this is not the case. The Holy Spirit is God! He is with the Holy Catholic Church, always having manifested His Divine Presence since its institution on earth. As such, the Holy Catholic Church being the fruit of the Holy Spirit, cannot be imperfect, nor in need of restoration as is claimed by Fr. Stefano Gobbi!
10) FALSE PROPHECY:
On June 17, 1989, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 407(p)] "666 indicated thrice, that is to say, for the third time, expresses the year 1998, nineteen hundred and ninety-eight. In this period of history, Freemasonry, assisted by its ecclesiastical form, will succeed in its great design: that of setting up an idol to put in the place of Christ and of his Church. A false christ and a false church."
Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that the Blessed Virgin Mary, she who is immaculate in nature and from who no lies can come forth, has stated that my year 1998, the Holy Catholic Church would be a false Church, having been overtaken by a false christ.
There are a few problems with this interior locution, namely:
1. It never happened.
2. The Virgin Mary does not lie.
3. False prophecies do not come from God, nor are they heavenly inspired.
4. Such a statement serves no other purpose but to corrupt the faith of the believers, leading them to believe that the Holy Catholic Church has been overtaken by a false christ who is managing a false church. As such, it encourages the faithful to disobey the God appointed authorities of the Holy Catholic Church and the inspired teachings of the Church.
11) THE NEW JERUSALEM:
On November 1, 1989, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 413(h)] "Thus you are already contributing to the forming of the new Jerusalem, the holy city, which MUST come down from heaven, as a bride adorned for her husband..."
Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleges that the Blessed Virgin Mary told him that the new Jerusalem, the holy city, "MUST" come down from Heaven. The Catholic Church teaches that the new Jerusalem, the holy city, is already on earth, that the children of the holy mother Church, through their baptism, "SHARE" in this blessed hope and are "GATHERED" into it. The Kingdom of God, the new Jerusalem, the holy city, is spiritual in nature. It is through our spirit that we worship God in spirit, such being pleasing to God.
Catechism # 2016 "The children of our holy mother the Church rightly hope for the grace of final perseverance and the recompense of God their Father for the good works accomplished with his grace in communion with Jesus. Keeping the same rule of life, believers SHARE the "blessed hope" of those whom the divine mercy GATHERS into the "holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."
The alleged locution of Fr. Stefano Gobbi opposes the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church! Such a belief is not biblical in nature! Since it is a deception, it cannot be of God, nor of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
12) FALSE PROPHECIES, SECOND COMING:
On January 1, 1990, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [See # 417(b)(f)(h) "During the last decade of your century, the events which I have foretold to you will have reached their completion." "During these years I am preparing you, by my motherly action, to receive the Lord who is coming." "I am preparing you for his new coming."
In consideration that this alleged private locution was given to Fr. Gobbi on January 1, 1990, the period of exactly 10 years, one decade, would have ended on December 31, 1999.
None of the events which Fr. Gobbi has alleged as coming from Our Lady since 1972 have come to pass. Christ has not been born again! The Kingdom of God did not come on earth because it was already here! The antichrist did not take over the Holy Catholic Church! And the list of deceptions continues... Such lies CANNOT originate from the Blessed Virgin Mary.
13) MILLENARIANISM, FALSE PROPHECIES:
On December 5, 1994, Fr. Stefano Gobbi alleged that Our Lady told him, [Ref: # 532(i)] "I confirm to you that, by the great jubilee of the year two thousand, there will take place the triumph of my Immaculate heart, which I foretold to you at Fatima, and this will come to pass with the return of Jesus in glory, to establish his reign in the world. Thus you will at last be able to see with your own eyes the new heavens and the new earth."
This is another deception with claims of the coming triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, new heavens and a new earth and the return of Jesus in glory.
The Holy Catholic Church teaches that the belief of the return of Christ to reign on earth in the form of a secular messianism is the Antichrist deception. (C.C.C. # 676) The new heavens and the new earth had their beginning during the generation that lived in the day of Jesus according to His own Sacred Words. The new earth echoes the Kingdom of God on earth, Christ having conquered Satan through His Blood on the Cross. The temporary new Heaven occurred when Satan was thrown out of Heaven by St. Michael the Archangel at which time Christ conquered sin through His Blood. This new Heaven will be reach its fullness on the day of the final return of Christ. On this subject, the Catholic Church states,
"Though already present in his Church, Christ's reign is nevertheless yet to be fulfilled "with power and great glory" by the king's return to earth. (Lk. 21:27; Mt. 25:31). This reign is still under attack by the evil powers, even though they have been defeated definitively by Christ's Passover. (2 Thess. 2:7). Until everything is subject to him, "until there be realized new heavens and a new earth in which justice dwells, the pilgrim Church, in her sacraments and institutions, which belong to this present age, carries the mark of this world which will pass, and she herself takes his place among the creatures which groan and travail yet and await the revelation of the sons of God." (2 Pet. 3:13; Rom. 8:19-22; 1 Cor. 15:28). That is why Christians pray, above all in the Eucharist, to hasten Christ's return by saying to him (1 Corinthians 11,26; 2 Pet. 3:11-12): Marana tha! "Our Lord come!" (1 Cor. 16:22; Rev. 22:17, 20)." (C.C.C. # 671)
What about the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart you may ask? Let us look at the facts. In 1884, Pope Leo XIII had a vision while celebrating the Holy Mass at St. Peter's Basilica in Rome. In a conversation between Christ and Satan, Satan indicated he could destroy the Church if he was given 100 years. Satan was given his 100 years. One hundred years later to the day, in March, 1994, Pope John Paul II and the bishops throughout the world consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Sister Lucia later affirmed that the Consecration had properly been done.
Starting from March 25, 1984, on the Feast of Our Lady of Fatima on May 13 th of that same year, 80% of Russia' missiles were destroyed from an explosion. On December 13 rd of the same year, another explosion in Siberia destroyed the largest ammunition base of Russia. In the next 2 weeks, Marshal Ustinov, the Minister of Defence and Marshal Sodolov, the 2 nd Minister of Defence both died 3 days apart. One year after the Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, President Chernenko died and Mikhial Gorbachev became the new President. A baptized Christian, although still a communist, he brought in the freedom of the press and freedom of religion. This destroyed communism and freed fifteen republics from the communist chains of Russia. In consideration of all this, can it not be said that in the end, the Immaculate Heart of Mary did conquer communism?
Now some will say, "Yes but look at all the abuses being reported in the Church. How could the Immaculate Heart of Mary have conquered when there is so much evil?"
There are two answers to that question. First of all, the Immaculate Heart of Mary promised to destroy communism, not to fix all the problems of the Church. Secondly, it was not until the later part of the 1980's that world Governments started protecting children against abuses, this being after the Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Most of the cases of abuses that are being reported today, are cases of abuse that occurred 20, 30 and 40 years ago, during the 100 years that Satan was given power over the Holy Catholic Church to try and destroy it. What we are seeing now is the fruit of Satan's damage; the clean-up phase of the Church; the sins of those who were not strong enough to overcome the temptations of Satan and his demons; the fruit of some who were never called to the religious life by God, etc... When a natural disaster strikes an area, there is always a clean-up stage afterwards. Equally, now that the spiritual disaster has passed over the Holy Catholic Church, it must go through a clean-up stage.
When considering the clean-up stage that the Holy Catholic Church has been undergoing, can it not be said that the Immaculate Heart of Mary continues to oversee the Church alongside the Holy Spirit?
Over and above the fact that the interior locutions of Father Stefano Gobbi are riddled with doctrinal errors, deceptions, non-Catholic claims, etc... one must look at the fruit of his work. Jesus said,
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits." [Mt. 7:15-20]
When speaking of the fruit of the locutions of Fr. Gobbi, specific reference is made here to the Cenacles. What do the members of the Cenacles believe? I can only speak for those in my Diocese. But if this is a reflection of what is happening worldwide, the fruit speaks for itself. I choose at this time to allow a former parishioner to explain in his words his personal experience with the Cenacles.
"My first experience with a member of the Cenacles was in 1998 when I was searching for a copy of the book 'To The Priests, Our Lady's Beloved.' I tracked down one of the members by telephoned and went to his home to pick up an older copy of the book. Being in a rush, I was unable to stay and entertain the member of the Cenacle who seemed rather anxious to have me stay so he could explain some great thing that was about to happen that only the Cenacle members knew about. Leaving his home, I was anxious to read the book to see what this great thing was all about."
"My second contact with members from different Cenacles was when they brought an alleged locutionist from the United States to my Parish. I attended part of the daily meeting. At the door stood a man who had a large crucifix around his neck. My first impression was that he was a Bishop, but he was not wearing clergy clothing. Therefore, I asked him if he was a priest. His answer was, 'Not in this parish.' I later learned that he was a lay person. At some point, this same man approached me and told me that Christ was returning on earth to reign in his worldly kingdom. When I told him that I did not believe it because it was not a Catholic teaching, he walked away from me."
"My next encounter with members from different Cenacles was when a priest from out of Province came to do a presentation in our Parish. I attended part of the meeting during which a movie was shown and the priest answered questions. To be honest with you, I felt like an outsider and did not have a clue as of yet what the Cenacles were all about. As the priest put it, 'There are Catholics and there are Catholics' implying that the members of the Cenacles are the Catholics and the others are all lost! Now, knowing more about Father Gobbi's locutions, I understand where he was coming from... only those who belong to Father Gobbi's movement are saved. The others are all damned, including myself. At least, this is what they believe. During this entire meeting, the priest spoke in riddles, never clearly enough so an outsider as myself could understand what he was talking about. This was more or less a secretive meeting, spoken in parables, so only the members would understand. This certainly did not shine in Christian love and openness."
"My next involvement with members of different Cenacles was when I went to one of their monthly hour of adoration. I had great difficulty accepting the fact that rather then reading from the Holy Bible, they read from Father Gobbi's locutions and preached on his ministry. Knowing the content of the book which is full of non-Catholic teachings, I refused to further get involved with this group."
"My next contact came by telephone. A member of one of the local Cenacles who meets for adoration once a month was inquiring about Marian Sacramentals. The conversation turned to my being informed that our present Pope was a false Pope; the previous one had been murdered; Jesus is coming back to reign on earth; none of the present priests are validly ordained because they were all ordained by bishops who were not validly consecrated by a false Pope; etc... I listened to the heresies of this lady for one hour, attempting to correct her in her errors, such proving fruitless because she was convinced that she was right. Her beliefs were a combination of all the false locutionists that are presently hammering the Holy Catholic Church with deceptions and lies."
"My last contact with members of different Cenacles was when I decided to attend a local Church that has the Holy Mass in Latin. To my surprise, I realized that those who were attending the Latin Mass were mostly all members of the Cenacles."
"A couple of weeks later, I was reading an article about Traditionalist members of the Catholic Church who reject Vatican II, the Holy Mass in the language of the land, Communion in the hand, etc... I then realized that the members of the Cenacles fit this perfect description. They are awaiting for the Second Coming of Christ to reign on earth so He can 'fix' things, to undo all the progressive work of the Holy Spirit in the Catholic Church since Vatican II. They have become a Church within a Church, remaining secretive about their false hopes. Such is not surprising since the alleged locutions of Fr. Gobbi command them to be silent, not to say anything to those who question them. In their eyes, to be questioned means to be persecuted. This is all part of the brainwashing process that they undergo once they join the movement. They believe that they are right, that they are the only Catholics, and that everybody else is wrong and damned!"
The above is but a small reflection of the beliefs that are being held by the members of the Cenacles. As a priest, during my ministry in the service of the Lord Jesus, I have come across many of the deceptions that are embraced by members of the Cenacles.
In conclusion, I can state that one alleged interior locution of Fr. Stefano Gobbi holds truth,
# 58(e) "There are also speaking today false prophets, who announce the Gospel by betraying it, and these are listened to and followed! And they bring disorder and confusion among the most faithful children of my Church.
The alleged interior locutions of Fr. Stefano Gobbi, being nothing else but personal reflections, have served no other purpose but to damage the faith of many believers for the last twenty-five years. They have erased the truth from the soul of many who await the Second Coming of Christ, they rejecting that the Kingdom of God is presently on earth, being manifested through the Holy Catholic Church.
These deceptions have so severely erased the truth and sound doctrines from the hearts of so many of the faithful Catholics that it will take years of re-evangelization to correct the damage that has been done to their faith, if it is not too late for some of them!
In consideration that Fr. Gobbi has elevated himself as one of the new Saviours of the world and as one of the only future remaining lights in the world, such being a heresy, the book "To The Priests Our Lady's Beloved Sons" distributed by the Marian Movement of Priests, should be banned from every Catholic Church around the world before other faithful members of the Body of Christ are brainwashed into believing deceptions, the faithful risking to lose their precious faith in Christ.
There is a time to be silent and a time to speak up. Until now, the clergy has remained silent for too long. Now is the time to speak up and to expose the deceptions. As members of the clergy, we are responsible for the souls that are placed under our care. The longer we remain silent, the more we will have to answer to the Lord Jesus on our Judgment Day. For a soul that believes in the Antichrist deception is a soul that is lost. A soul that believes that Fr. Gobbi will be one of the new Saviours is a soul that is lost.
Finally, this writer does not condemn genuine Marian devotion. To the contrary, he encourages the priests and lay members of the Body of Christ to reorganize themselves by embracing a Marian Movement that is faithful to the teachings of the Magisterium. The Holy Catholic Church has sufficient riches in its teachings, in its Sacraments, in its devotions, in its Sacramentals and in the Marian Doctrines to feed the souls of those who hunger for many years to come. Let us pray that through the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the Lord Jesus will raise a sound international Movement so that those who hunger, they may be fed by the abunding grace of God.
The alleged interior locutions of Fr. Stefano Gobbi, being nothing else but personal reflections, have served no other purpose but to damage the faith of many believers for the last twenty-five years. They have erased the truth from the soul of many who await the Second Coming of Christ, they rejecting that the Kingdom of God is presently on earth, being manifested through the Holy Catholic Church. These deceptions have so severely erased the truth and sound doctrines from the hearts of so many of the faithful Catholics that it will take years of re-evangelization to correct the damage that has been done to their faith, if it is not too late for some of them! In consideration that Fr. Gobbi has elevated himself as one of the new Saviours of the world and as one of the only future remaining lights in the world, such being a heresy, the book "To The Priests Our Lady's Beloved Sons" distributed by the Marian Movement of Priests, should be banned from every Catholic Church around the world before other faithful members of the Body of Christ are brainwashed into believing deceptions, the faithful risking to lose their precious faith in Christ.
You raised the subject of Gobbi’s locutions on another thread - I thought the subject was interesting, and decided to give it it’s own thread.
He passed away June 29 2011.First I would make my stand on his writings and not on people in the movement.I read the first 2 books and saw some things that were questionable and threw them out.I’m mixed up enough :)
This Priest died over two years ago. He’s not still alive.
I say that as your article has:
YEARS: 1972 - Present
Keep your fingers out of light sockets and you won’t have to worry ‘bout no interiorlocutions.
God still speaks to us.
I agree. But sometimes, it's not God speaking.
Better to quote Jesus: One knows a tree by its fruit.
I have found Father Stefano Gobbi, for the most part, to bear good fruit.
You can have your own opinion.
When you stand in judgement before God, let me know what God thinks of your actions on earth...
I'll need your forwarding address. Where do you think you'll be?
That is why it is very important to discerning it out.
a lot of what he wrote are simply his opinion. One doesn’t have to listen to “Coast to coast am” to worry about the “freemason” or modernists trying to take over the Catholic church.
Although the church has said thumbs down on his writings as being supernatural in origin, one is allowed to read them with discernment as his private thoughts about God and how to serve him.
Jesus talks about the Rich Man who is in Hades talking to Lazarus. Lazarus is in the Bosom of Abraham. When Lazarus died, according to Jesus, he was taken by the angels to the side of Abraham. The Rich Man, on the other hand, went to Hades, which I interpret to be Hell.
Despite them being in two vastly different places after death, they still could communicate.
I believe this is something real that happened before the Resurrection that opened heaven (my interpretation). So according to this interpretation, it might be possible for a person in hell to talk to a person in heaven (or some other place -- somewhere in John Chapter 3 before John 3:16 Jesus talks as though there may be other places other than heaven/hell when Jesus states if He has trouble explaining this world, how can he explain life not in this world...
So if I am in Hell, and you are not there, it is still possible to communicate, according to Luke 16:19-31.
... So according to this interpretation, it might be possible for a person in hell to talk to a person in heaven (or some other place -- somewhere in John Chapter 3 before John 3:16 Jesus talks as though there may be other places other than heaven/hell when Jesus states if He has trouble explaining this world, how can he explain life not in this world...
I am referring to John 3:12, which is, according to NIV:
John 3:12 (NIV)
"If I tell you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things?"
And there is a footnote to this passage that references a number of other passages...