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Pope’s vigil for Syrian peace expected to be biggest in decades
cna ^ | September 5, 2013 | Estefania Aguirre

Posted on 09/06/2013 12:59:02 PM PDT by NYer

Pope Francis leads Eucharistic Adoration at St. Peter's Basilica, June 2, 2013. Credit Alan Holdren/CNA.

Vatican City, Sep 5, 2013 / 11:43 am (CNA/EWTN News).- A five-hour prayer vigil in St. Peter's Square for peace in Syria, initiated by Pope Francis and to be held this Saturday, will be the largest the Vatican has seen in years, according to the Holy See’s press director.

“I’ve been here for 23 years and I remember gatherings for peace in Assisi, but I don’t remember anything with this dimension in Saint Peter’s Square,” Fr. Federico Lombardi told a gathering of journalists Sept. 5.

He recalled a peace gathering in Italy and prayer vigils held after the Sept. 11 attacks, but none were of the degree that this will be, he said.

Pope Francis made a global petition on Sept. 1 asking that everyone, regardless of religion or location, to fast and pray during the whole day of Sept. 7 for world peace, particularly in Syria.

“There are so many conflicts in this world which cause me great suffering and worry, but in these days my heart is deeply wounded in particular by what is happening in Syria and anguished by the dramatic developments which are looming,” the Holy Father said Sept. 1.

During his first public general audience since his summer break on Sept. 4, he renewed his invitation.

While the Sept. 7 fast is not binding on the faithful, Pope Francis' repeated exhortations to participate in the fast indicate how close the issue is to the heart of the vicar of Christ.

His call for prayer and fasting comes as nations, including the United States, discuss the possibility of military intervention in Syria, following reports that the Bashar al Assad regime used chemical weapons on its own civilians, killing, according to the U.S. government, more than 1,400 persons.

Pope Francis' prayer vigil will be preceded by the hearing of Confessions, beginning in the evening at 5:45 in St. Peter's Square. There will be 50 priests available for Confession under the colonnades of the square.

Then at 6:30, Pope Francis' Sept. 1 allocution calling for the day of fasting and prayer will be read to introduce the vigil.

Pope Francis will begin the prayer at 7:00, and the Veni Creator Spiritus will be sung.

Four Swiss Guards will carry a statue of Mary, Protectress of the Roman People, starting from the obelisk in the square, accompanied by two girls strewing flowers before her.

The Roman Pontiff will then begin praying the rosary, invoking the intercession at each mystery of Our Lady, Queen of Peace.

There will then be a meditation by the Pope, followed by a minute of silence and Eucharistic Adoration.

The vigil will also include readings from the Bible, and responsorial prayers for peace.

After Adoration, there will be three minutes of silence followed by the recitation of the Office of Readings, part of the Liturgy of the Hours.

At 10:15 there will be a period of extended, prayerful silence, and the vigil will conclude later with Benediction.

In solidarity with the vigil of the Diocese of Rome, many Churches worldwide will be holding similar events.

The Archdiocese of Madrid announced that all Masses said this Saturday will be offered for peace in Syria, and Bishop Demetrio Fernandez Gonzalez of Cordoba asked that church bells be rung at noon to remind Catholics to pray the Angelus to Mary, Queen of Peace.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Archbishop of New York, announced that the anticipated Mass at his cathedral on Sept. 7 would be said for the intention of peace in Syria, and added that in his diocese “I wish all our Catholic people to abstain from meat this Friday (Sept. 6), and add this intention to their prayers at Sunday Mass.”

In the Archdiocese of Denver, a vigil of Adoration will be held at the cathedral on Sept. 7 from 7 p.m. until midnight.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Prayer; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: syria; vatican

1 posted on 09/06/2013 12:59:02 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Prayer ping!


2 posted on 09/06/2013 12:59:30 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

When was the last time the Vatican had a vigil for peace in Syria?


3 posted on 09/06/2013 1:10:56 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: WayneS

4 posted on 09/06/2013 1:35:07 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: WayneS; NYer
Why, you know, I can't remember the Vatican ever having a Vigil for Peace in Syria before.

It's about time!

5 posted on 09/06/2013 3:07:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." - Jesus Christ - Matthew 19:17)
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To: jimsin
This is morally wrong, and it won't work.

It would make more sense to convert ourselves to Christianity.

6 posted on 09/06/2013 3:14:03 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." - Jesus Christ - Matthew 19:17)
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To: WayneS

Never!


7 posted on 09/06/2013 3:30:37 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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Why doesn’t he just consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?


8 posted on 09/06/2013 4:24:46 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer

I will fast tomorrow, read the Gospel, and try to make a visit to the Blessed Sacrament. Lord, hear our prayer!


9 posted on 09/06/2013 9:45:24 PM PDT by Melian ("Where will wants not, a way opens.")
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To: jimsin

Better, pray for the conversion of the Muslims to Christ.


10 posted on 09/07/2013 3:03:59 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: ebb tide

Russia has been successfully consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. The Berlin wall came down, churches have been rebuilt, and christianity is thriving there. It’s now time to consecrate the west.


11 posted on 09/07/2013 3:05:36 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: ebb tide

That was done already!


12 posted on 09/07/2013 3:08:22 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: NYer

....And in a special way, the USA.


13 posted on 09/07/2013 3:09:02 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

....And better yet pray for the conversion of the Muslims to both Christ and the Christian faith.


14 posted on 09/07/2013 3:11:16 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

‘Better, pray for the conversion of the Muslims to Christ.’

WELL FIRST ANN’S STEPS ONE, TWO AND THREE THERE N THEN the CONVERSION comes as a MATTER OF COURSE...


15 posted on 09/07/2013 3:11:28 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: jimsin

No, Mrs. Don-O is correct on this one.

Besides, prayer will work out much, much better, pray for the conversion of ALL to Christ.


16 posted on 09/07/2013 3:17:29 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: NYer

17 posted on 09/07/2013 7:40:43 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Biggirl

When? And who were the bishops who joined the Pope in doing so? At least, please tell me how many bishops joined him in doing so.


18 posted on 09/07/2013 8:17:41 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer; Biggirl

You forgot this part, “and a period of peace will be granted to mankind”.


19 posted on 09/07/2013 8:20:46 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Blessed John Paul II I do believed he did consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary back during the mid-1980’s.


20 posted on 09/07/2013 9:01:51 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: ebb tide; Biggirl
You forgot this part, “and a period of peace will be granted to mankind”.

Since the message is directed specifically towards Russia, we can certainly attest that country has known peace since the 1984 consecration.

In a quotation written by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (later Pope Benedict) he says, "Sister Lucia personally confirmed that this solemn and universal act of consecration corresponded to what Our Lady wished “Sim, està feita, tal como Nossa Senhora a pediu, desde o dia 25 de Março de 1984”: “Yes it has been done just as Our Lady asked, on 25 March 1984”: Letter of 8 November 1989). Hence any further discussion or request is without basis.".

In an article in Inside the Vatican by Delia Gallagher, it was mentioned that Sister Lucia had a special vision that confirmed theaction corresponded to Our Lady's requests. Cardinal Ricardo Vidal of Cebu in the Philippines also said that Sr Lucia had told him, "If the consecration had not been done in 1984, there would have been nuclear war in 1985".

Sr. Lucia said John Paul II accomplished it. End of matter. We now need to focus our prayers for peace on the Middle East.

21 posted on 09/07/2013 10:14:39 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: Biggirl
Oh, very true. I do pry for the conversion of Muslims Over a billion of them. Every single one of them.

I'm trying to fast today, in preparation for our parish Holy Hour for Peace tonight (actually it's going to be two hours) and already I am realizing how shallow my resolve is, how feeble I am with this prayer and fasting business, how prone to every kind of fault.

So I'm praying for my own conversion. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

22 posted on 09/07/2013 10:16:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Acquire a peaceful spirit, and then thousands around you will be saved. " - St. Seraphim of Sarov)
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To: NYer; Biggirl
Since the message is directed specifically towards Russia, we can certainly attest that country has known peace since the 1984 consecration.

You can attest to whatever you want; but I don't attest to any of the above.

Have you not heard of the first and second Russia - Chechen Wars in 1994 and 1999, respectively?

Secondly, Our Lady granted a period of peace to all mankind, not just Russia.

And please tell me exactly when Orthodox Russia converted to Catholicism?

23 posted on 09/07/2013 12:42:57 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer
End of matter.

Not quite!

8. ISN'T IT TRUE THAT THE CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA WAS DONE IN 1984 AND THAT THE "FALL OF COMMUNISM" PROVES THAT THE CONSECRATION WAS EFFECTIVE AND THAT RUSSIA IS NOW CONVERTING?

No, it is not true. We know it is not true because:

(1) On March 25, 1984, after the consecration of the world, Pope John Paul II said twice that Our Lady of Fatima's request for the consecration of Russia was not done.

(2) Soon after the attempted Consecration of 1984, which did not mention Russia or involve the participation of the world's bishops, Sister Lucia stated it was insufficient because it did not meet the requirements specified to her by Our Lady.

(3) Since 1984 the moral and spiritual state of the world has obviously grown far worse: In the past 14 years there have been 600 million abortions, and wars have broken out all over the world. Mercy-killing and homosexual acts have been "legalized". In Russia itself a new law has just been passed which discriminates against the Catholic Church and in favor of Islam, Buddhism, Judaism and the Orthodox churches which forcibly occupied Catholic parishes under the Communists. Thus it is clear Russia is not converted to the Catholic Faith as Our Lady of Fatima promised would happen if Her request was done.

(4) There have been very few conversions to Catholicism in Russia over the past fourteen years. In all of Russia today there are only 300,000 Catholics--much less than one percent of the Russian population. By comparison, after Our Lady appeared at Guadalupe, Mexico in the 16th Century, more than 7 million Mexicans converted from paganism to the Catholic Faith within nine years and Mexico became a Catholic country.

Anything else you wish to assert?

24 posted on 09/07/2013 12:55:16 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
Anything else you wish to assert?

We are talking about Russia, not the world. Mary asked that Russia be consecrated. All the evil that sprang from that country has now infiltrated the rest of the world. However, in Russia, peace reigns; christianity has been restored; the government is encouraging its citizens to have children, etc.

I'll repeat: Sr. Lucia said John Paul II accomplished it. End of matter. We now need to focus our prayers for peace on the Middle East.

25 posted on 09/07/2013 1:26:22 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Biggirl
Oh, very true. I do pry for the conversion of Muslims Over a billion of them. Every single one of them.

In case you missed this.

26 posted on 09/07/2013 1:29:56 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer
Sr. Lucia said John Paul II accomplished it.

I'll repeat: she said no such thing!

As far as participating in today's Assisi III of praying with false religions: count me out!

27 posted on 09/07/2013 1:34:12 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
As far as participating in today's Assisi III of praying with false religions: count me out!

Let me understand this, you are against praying the rosary and benediction. You reject readings from scripture, the Litany of the Saints and ancient hymns like the Tantum Ergo.

I've encountered many protestants over the years who share that view but you are the first catholic ... or are you a sedevacantist?

28 posted on 09/07/2013 2:16:09 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer; Religion Moderator
You reject readings from scripture, the Litany of the Saints and ancient hymns like the Tantum Ergo.

Aren't you the mindreader now!

29 posted on 09/07/2013 2:31:58 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer

Pope Francis extended his invitation to “fellow Christians, followers of other religions and all men of good will, to participate, in whatever way they can, in this initiative.”

“Humanity needs to see these gestures of peace and to hear words of hope and peace!” said the Pope.

"Humanity" needs to see these gestures? What happened to God?

30 posted on 09/07/2013 2:50:45 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Salvation

Nice photo! I’m glad to see there’s no beach ball this time.


31 posted on 09/07/2013 2:54:01 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
"Humanity" needs to see these gestures? What happened to God?

Well, if you look at the photo I posted, you can see that He was front and center, where He belongs. Even the two Muslims who flew to Rome from Syria, dropped to their knees in worship ... or do you have a problem with that, too? Just curious but to which denomination do you belong?

32 posted on 09/07/2013 3:04:57 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: ebb tide
Aren't you the mindreader now!

No. I'm not a mindreader. You posted: "As far as participating in today's Assisi III of praying with false religions: count me out!"

That indicates to me that you did not watch the live coverage from Rome. There was no "praying with other faiths". Hence, you are not aware that the prayer vigil began with the recitation of the Rosary, reflections on Scripture, and readings from the writings of St. Therese of Lisieux. You are not aware that the monstrance was placed on the altar in full view of those gathered in St. Peter's Square, with additional recitations from Scripture followed by pauses for silent prayer. You are not aware that before the vigil began, 50 priests heard confessions. You are not aware that ancient catholic hymns were chanted. You are not aware that Benediction took place.

One does not need to be a mind reader to conclude that someone who intentionally refused to participate, based on a presupposed assumption of how the vigil would be organized, rejects these outward signs of catholic faith. As a practicing catholic, it saddens me to hear this.

33 posted on 09/07/2013 3:20:08 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer; Religion Moderator
You are not aware that the monstrance was placed on the altar in full view of those gathered in St. Peter's Square, with additional recitations from Scripture followed by pauses for silent prayer. You are not aware that before the vigil began, 50 priests heard confessions. You are not aware that ancient catholic hymns were chanted. You are not aware that Benediction took place.

Dang, you are on a mind reading role! Tell me what else I'm not aware of!

34 posted on 09/07/2013 3:27:38 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer
Even the two Muslims who flew to Rome from Syria, dropped to their knees in worship ...

Worship what? The Triune God?

35 posted on 09/07/2013 3:35:29 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
Worship what? The Triune God?

Yes! When one kneels before the Eucharist, they are worshipping the Triune God. Still have a problem with this?

36 posted on 09/07/2013 3:39:52 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: ebb tide; NYer
The "you are not aware" statements were prefaced with a "Hence" - therefore, he is expressing his own mind (his reasoning) and not reading yours.

Still, it would have been better to use a conditional word each time like "seems" or "evidently."

37 posted on 09/07/2013 3:52:36 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: NYer

Never had a problem with it. But Muslims do have a problem. Please give evidence of Muslims kneeling before the Eucharist.


38 posted on 09/07/2013 4:01:24 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

In truth Russia is a Christian country now. Both the Catholic and Orthodox Churches are part of the family tree of the Christian.

Consecration was done by Blessed John Paul II in 1984. The subject is now CLOSED.


39 posted on 09/07/2013 4:39:15 PM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: ebb tide; markomalley
Please give evidence of Muslims kneeling before the Eucharist.

Vatican tv, EWTN, Salt & Light ... and several others provided LIVE coverage today. Markomalley watched the LIVE feed and commented above.

40 posted on 09/07/2013 4:46:45 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: Biggirl
The subject is now CLOSED.

Closed to some of you! Tell me please what all churches are included in your "Christian family tree"?

41 posted on 09/07/2013 4:47:10 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer

So you didn’t watch it after all! Yet, you accused me of the same. There’s a word for that type of person.


42 posted on 09/07/2013 4:50:01 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Biggirl

What about this part, “and a period of peace will be granted to mankind”?

Did I blink and miss it? Please tell me when that period was and how long did it last.

I’m sure the Blessed Mother wasn’t teasing us; but somehow I’m missing what you and others claim to have been accomplished. Is the “period of peace” over already? It must be if the Pope is calling for a prayer for peace now.


43 posted on 09/07/2013 6:08:04 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Biggirl; NYer

Two years later, this evasive approach was taken again when the Holy Father once more consecrated the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary in a ceremony before 250,000 people in Rome in March of 1984. But this time, the Pope made his position clearer.

In a departure from his prepared text, he asked Our Lady of Fatima to "enlighten especially the peoples of which You Yourself are awaiting our consecration and confiding." The Pope thus publicly acknowledged that the consecration requested by Our Lady had still not been performed.

These words were included in an official report of the event in L’Osservatore Romano on March 26, 1984. A similar report appeared the next day in the Italian bishops’ newspaper Avvenire, describing the Pope praying in St. Peter’s several hours after the consecration ceremony, asking Our Lady to bless "those peoples for whom You Yourself are awaiting our act of consecration and entrusting."

Case Opened!

44 posted on 09/07/2013 7:20:27 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
So you didn’t watch it after all! Yet, you accused me of the same. There’s a word for that type of person.

Apparently you prefer to pick and choose which comments to read as fodder for your senseless attacks. Had you read ALL of the commentaries posted above, you might have spared yourself the additional angst of calling me to task. BTW, it was repeated last night. Hope you were able to watch the rerun.

45 posted on 09/08/2013 5:37:28 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: ebb tide; NYer
Please give evidence of Muslims kneeling before the Eucharist.

Here is a screenshot from the prayer vigil:

(click on the image above to go to the actual video clip)

Let me re-emphasize, I do not make a claim that it was sincere, I do not claim that there was some type of Taqiyya. But the fact of the matter is, as you can see in the above screenshot and the associated video, they were, whatever their motivation, kneeling before the Blessed Sacrament.

Sorry for delay, just located the video.

46 posted on 09/09/2013 12:12:08 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Which ones are the muslims, Mark? And why are the majority of the people, including nuns, standing?


47 posted on 09/10/2013 6:55:09 PM PDT by ebb tide
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