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Pope Francis rejects false religiosity
cna ^ | September 7, 2013 | Kerri Lenartowick

Posted on 09/07/2013 3:49:35 PM PDT by NYer

Pope Francis greets the faithful at the May 8 General Audience (Credit: CNA / Stephen Driscoll)

Vatican City, Sep 7, 2013 / 10:01 am (CNA/EWTN News).- In his daily homily on Saturday, Pope Francis reflected on the question of authentic Christianity and rejected the practice of focusing more on devotions than on Christ himself.

Jesus is “the center” of faith, said the Pope. “A commandment is valid if it comes from Jesus: I do this because the Lord wants me to do this. But if I am a Christian without Christ, I do this and I don’t know why I have to do it,” he said to the congregation at the Vatican’s Casa Santa Marta on September 7.

Like the Pharisees, he said, there are some people who “make so many commandments the center of their religiosity.” 

Others who have a false sense of religiosity “only seek devotions” or “things that are a little uncommon, a little special, that go back to private revelations,” noted Pope Francis.

“If your devotions bring you to Christ, that works. But if you remain there, something’s wrong,” he explained.

“If Jesus is not at the center, there will be many other things,” so that people become “Christians without Christ.”

Remembering that Jesus is the center of faith “regenerates us, grounds us.”

Pope Francis further explained the mark of a true “Christian with Christ.”

“The rule is simple: only that which brings you to Jesus is valid, and only that is valid that comes from Jesus. Jesus is the center, the Lord, as He Himself says.”

Christians can avoid false religiosity by adoring Jesus as “the Lord, the only Lord.”

“If you aren’t able to adore Jesus, you’re missing something,” warned Pope Francis.

The sign of a true “Christian with Christ” is one who does “that which comes from Jesus” and that which leads to Jesus.

Such adoration bears true fruit in the life of a Christian, encouraged the Pope.

He said that Jesus also gives “the grace of loving Him so much, of following Him, of going along the path that He has shown us.”

A “Christian with Christ” has the courage to proclaim Jesus as Lord.

Pope Francis exhorted Catholics not to focus on false piety, but rather evangelize and “take the Gospel!”


TOPICS: Catholic; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; popefrancis
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1 posted on 09/07/2013 3:49:35 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/07/2013 3:49:55 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Pope Francis is having parish priests advocate of amnesty for illegals tomorrow and backs liberation theology.

Bye.


3 posted on 09/07/2013 4:18:10 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar

Christianity was never meant to make you comfortable.


4 posted on 09/07/2013 4:52:30 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: piytar
The USCCB is shilling for illegal amnesty, not the pope.

Get a clue.

5 posted on 09/07/2013 4:57:15 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: NYer; metmom; smvoice; boatbums; Iscool

Hmm! I agree with his statement. Now if they would just dump all that extraneous stuff and just focus on Christ.


6 posted on 09/07/2013 5:06:49 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: NYer
Jesus is “the center” of faith, said the Pope. “A commandment is valid if it comes from Jesus: I do this because the Lord wants me to do this.

Hebrews 12:1-2 Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.

7 posted on 09/07/2013 5:08:10 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Good one! It’s Jesus and only Jesus!


8 posted on 09/07/2013 5:12:12 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
Psalms 96:4-9 For great is the LORD and greatly to be praised; He is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the LORD made the heavens. Splendor and majesty are before Him, Strength and beauty are in His sanctuary.

Revelation 4:11 "Worthy are You, our Lord and our God, to receive glory and honor and power; for You created all things, and because of Your will they existed, and were created."

1 Peter 4:11 Whoever speaks, is to do so as one who is speaking the utterances of God; whoever serves is to do so as one who is serving by the strength which God supplies; so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.


9 posted on 09/07/2013 5:20:57 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

As a Protestant the anti-Catholicism here is obnoxious. If a conservative doesn’t like guns she doesn’t own one. If a conservative wants to recycle he does so without demanding that others do. If a conservative does not like Catholicism she worships as she chooses and minds her own business. Reality check: It’s not the Catholics that are trying to blow us up. In fact, a group of nuns, may God bless them, were marched prisoner style through the streets of Egypt by muslim animals.

As you pointed out the anti-Catholics don’t even know the difference between the Pope and the USCCB; however, the consider themselves experts on the religion. As a Protestant I wish the anti-Catholics here would focus on Protestant churches that embrace gays, gay marriage, and abortion.


10 posted on 09/07/2013 5:32:49 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

You must be one of those Protestant Catholics...


11 posted on 09/07/2013 5:37:31 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: goodwithagun
As a Protestant I wish the anti-Catholics here would focus on Protestant churches that embrace gays, gay marriage, and abortion.

AMEN

12 posted on 09/07/2013 5:42:56 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: vladimir998

Christianity and the Church are two different things. Not a hater, but for now I consider the Church to have left me.


13 posted on 09/07/2013 5:45:29 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Iscool

Is that anything like a white Hispanic?


14 posted on 09/07/2013 5:48:00 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: terycarl

Not much difference! Men of God are called to speak out against all who deny “the faith once delivered to the saints,” whether it be Catholics or Protestants. False teaching is condemned, regardless of where they come from.


15 posted on 09/07/2013 5:48:30 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Well, then they're running the Church here in the US, at least as far as tomorrow's sermons go: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3062873/posts

And don't get me started on the gay mafia in the Church (have a friend whose cousin is part of it - it is very real).

16 posted on 09/07/2013 5:51:05 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar

Without the Church there is no Christianity. The Church is Christ’s Body. The Church doesn’t leave anyone. But people make excuses for not knowing any better.


17 posted on 09/07/2013 5:55:14 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: goodwithagun; Wyrd bið ful aræd

Dear Good, well said. I’m of the same opinion. See my posts in the 100+post thread “Pope Francis: overcome temptation to be “Christians without Jesus” (Daily Mass”)

And Ben Franklin’s statement “either we all hang together or we will all hang separately” is as true for Christianity today, as it was for the founding fathers of the nation in 1776. Not only do we have to defend ourselves from radical Islam, but also secular humanism and the militant atheists who have been seizing control of the nation and its society.


18 posted on 09/07/2013 6:00:21 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

There appears to be an anti-Catholic ping list, and the members pride themselves on posting scripture in pretty colors. It is childish and actually really embarrassing. If my soul were lost, their brand of Christianity would not pull me back.


19 posted on 09/07/2013 6:08:39 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: piytar

???

That's the USCCB.

Not Pope Francis.

Please get at least the major parts of the story straight.

Thank you.

20 posted on 09/07/2013 6:21:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What does the Lord require of you, but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God)
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To: evangmlw; metmom
>>Not much difference! Men of God are called to speak out against all who deny “the faith once delivered to the saints,” whether it be Catholics or Protestants. False teaching is condemned, regardless of where they come from.<<

Amen and Amen!

I find it interesting that not one Catholic on this thread has agreed with the pope about focusing on Jesus.

21 posted on 09/07/2013 6:34:04 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: NYer
FRANKIE FANKIE FRANKIE .....HERE'S THE PLAN...

STEP ONE PRAY THAT ALL GAIN HEAVEN BY FOLLOWING THE LORD

AND

2. PRAY FOR AND BACK THE AMERICAN EAGLE...FOR IF THE EAGLE FAILS THE WORLD FALLS INTO A HELL HOLE. SO YOU MUST USE YOUR INFLUENCE TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED ASCENDANCY OF POLICEMAN OF THE WORLD.

FOR IT IS U.S. MIGHT WHICH KEEPS THE WOLVES FROM MANKIND'S DOOR...

NOW

DO YOU HAVE ALL THAT STRAIGHT?

ALLRIGHT THEN...

LET'S GET TO WORK AND GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE...

CARRY ON. TYVM...
22 posted on 09/07/2013 6:40:16 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: NYer
there are some people who “make so many commandments the center of their religiosity.”

Yeah, that's a big problem in the Church, people following the commandments. Too much obedience to the rules. And it's only gotten worse over the years, people doing what they're supposed to do without understanding why they're doing it.

A whole lot of good behavior is breaking out all over.

23 posted on 09/07/2013 6:41:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: NYer

WOW! Francis has left the Catholic Church!

This must be the end times for sure.


24 posted on 09/07/2013 7:05:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: goodwithagun

>> “ If a conservative does not like Catholicism she worships as she chooses and minds her own business.” <<

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Only if said ‘conservative’ is NOT a follower of Yeshua HaMashiach.

Believers must try to save catholics from the wide path they follow.


25 posted on 09/07/2013 7:09:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jimsin

You for got “Say three Hail NWOs.”


26 posted on 09/07/2013 7:11:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Do you also try to save Episcoples?


27 posted on 09/07/2013 7:18:21 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: piytar
The Church can certainly be aggravating at times. They say that martyrs get to suffer forfrom the Church. (Know what I mean?

But st5ill, consider this:

Christ Himself founded the Church: Matthew 16:18.

Christ Himself said people should listen to the Church.

The Church is the Bride, and Christ the Bridegroom, as we are told repeatedly in the Gospels, the Epistles, and Revelation.

So accepting a lasting rift between yourself and the Church is not something pleasing to Christ, and certainly not a way to get closer to Him. He didn't say "By all means, avoid anything that makes you uncomfortable."

He said, "Take up your Cross daily."

28 posted on 09/07/2013 7:30:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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To: goodwithagun

Most of them are just catholics in disguise.


29 posted on 09/07/2013 7:31:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NYer; Heart-Rest; HoosierDammit; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

30 posted on 09/07/2013 7:34:25 PM PDT by narses
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To: CynicalBear

31 posted on 09/07/2013 7:34:44 PM PDT by narses
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To: editor-surveyor

So do you try to save them? I think you just need to check your face, because your nose is in somebody else’s business. The Protestant churches are in deep need of reform. If you are a Protestant like me, you should start there.


32 posted on 09/07/2013 7:35:42 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

My nose is in the business that Yeshua commanded it to be in.

Letting people suffer in ignorance is not a part of his plan.


33 posted on 09/07/2013 7:40:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I misrecall, are you SDA?


34 posted on 09/07/2013 7:43:04 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses

Now that’s funny!


36 posted on 09/07/2013 7:48:19 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: NYer

**Jesus is “the center” of faith, said the Pope.**

There-—————————will all the non-Catholics please re-read this line!


38 posted on 09/07/2013 8:05:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: piytar

Didn’t happen at my church — the homily was on the Gospel. Where are people getting this information?


39 posted on 09/07/2013 8:06:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CynicalBear

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3063918/posts?page=38#38


40 posted on 09/07/2013 8:09:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goodwithagun

You’ve nailed it. They descend like locusts within a few posts. There’s an Alinsky quality to their tactics.


42 posted on 09/07/2013 8:52:28 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Oratam

All of the removed posts are mine. I’m apparently making personal attacks.


43 posted on 09/07/2013 8:53:44 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

It’s such a fine line I can’t figure it out. For every post I make, there are 2 or 3 that I rethink and bale on. I’m not going to school to learn the finer points of the “stinging rebuke” and the “pounce when he stumbles.”


44 posted on 09/07/2013 9:00:41 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: goodwithagun
As a Protestant I wish the anti-Catholics here would focus on Protestant churches that embrace gays, gay marriage, and abortion.

When there are threads that deal with these issues, you will see most of the same people you call the obnoxious "anti-Catholics" contending for the truth of Christ and against churches (whatever kind) that condone homosexuality and all its particulars. But, there are many threads that get posted by obnoxious, anti-Protestant Catholics who take pleasure in provoking non-Catholic Christians here every chance they get. Should nobody respond in defense against THESE?

When your fellow Protestants are declared heretics and damned to hell for not "coming home" to Roman Catholicism, are you also on their cases for doing that? Does it bother you, being a Protestant, to read thread after thread that asserts ONLY the Roman Catholic Church is the TRUE church established by Jesus Christ and all us "schismatic heretics" are missing out because we aren't Catholic? Do you mind when some Catholics presume to be experts on what every non-Catholic Christian believes and lump us all into the same bag and treated as garbage?

What strikes me most about this new Pope Francis is that he genuinely seems to care more about bringing people to faith in Jesus Christ than he is in making everyone Roman Catholic. I think he is actually trying to fulfill some of the decrees that came from Vatican II which include recognizing that true, saving faith in Jesus Christ CAN be found outside of the Roman Catholic Church and that God is able to save non-Catholics without them having to join up. Now, some Catholics even on this forum object to many of those decrees and they reject that souls can be saved in Protestant churches. This is why you will observe the kind of threads they post often have this as the subtext.

Now, I am all for everyone being kind and respectful to each other and I dislike animosity as much as anyone here. I try to talk to others as I would like to be talked to. But, even Jesus and the Apostles found that sometimes people needed to be rebuked and corrected as much as exhorted and encouraged. There is no reason to be hateful and obnoxious, but some people see any alternate views but their own as hate speech. They are the ones who need a reality check.

45 posted on 09/07/2013 9:46:27 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: narses

You always misrecall.


46 posted on 09/07/2013 9:48:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Was it Jehovas Witness?


47 posted on 09/07/2013 9:51:47 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses

Its follower of The Way of Yeshua.

I know that you consider that to be error, but Yeshua says its right, so I’ll go with him over a Maryolator, and Ishtar worshiper.

When you see the Vatican in flames, and the angels of Yeshua singing Aleluyah Praise be to Yeshua over its glowing, smoking embers, you’ll then recall correctly.


48 posted on 09/07/2013 10:05:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

http://www.northernway.org/god.html


49 posted on 09/07/2013 10:08:10 PM PDT by narses
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To: Mrs. Don-o; piytar
Christ Himself founded the Church: Matthew 16:18. Christ Himself said people should listen to the Church. The Church is the Bride, and Christ the Bridegroom, as we are told repeatedly in the Gospels, the Epistles, and Revelation. So accepting a lasting rift between yourself and the Church is not something pleasing to Christ, and certainly not a way to get closer to Him. He didn't say "By all means, avoid anything that makes you uncomfortable." He said, "Take up your Cross daily."

Can we agree that the "church" is not some monolithic institution but rather the people who belong to Christ and are his bride? This really IS what Jesus established, that souls won to faith in Christ follow Him and live their lives to honor Him and draw others to saving faith as well as band together in local assemblies for common worship, prayer, teaching and taking care of each other like family members.

50 posted on 09/07/2013 10:27:14 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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