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L.A. Archbishop again takes immigration reform to Mass
Los Angeles Times ^ | September 8, 2013 | Samantha Schaefer

Posted on 09/09/2013 6:56:54 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Edited on 09/09/2013 7:08:03 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

In a homily stressing the need for immigration reform, Archbishop Josť Gomez of Los Angeles said Sunday that immigration is not only a political issue, but also a spiritual one that is at the root of what it means to be a Catholic.


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The Roman Catholic Church has taken a more active role in the immigration debate in recent years, particularly in Los Angeles with Cardinal Roger Mahony's outspoken stance and now with Gomez at the helm. Church leaders have said their latest campaign is aimed at translating Catholic support for immigration reform into action. In the past, the church leaders have created prayers for "safe migration" and preached about welcoming "the stranger," but the latest effort is more direct, with calls to write and email congressional representatives. The hope is to keep the pressure on Congress to ensure the bill remains a priority.
1 posted on 09/09/2013 6:56:54 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Another of N reasons (where N is a growing number) why I am no longer a Catholic.


2 posted on 09/09/2013 7:00:16 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

Same here. I would leave my church if they advocated lawlessness just to have butts in the seats and money in the collection plates.


3 posted on 09/09/2013 7:12:52 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Link doesn’t work.


4 posted on 09/09/2013 7:14:42 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Alex Murphy

Gomez Steps Up Campaign for More Pro-Abortion Voters


5 posted on 09/09/2013 7:15:43 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Da Coyote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%c3%a9_Horacio_G%c3%b3mez#Early_life_and_education.
 
[8] He became a U.S. citizen in 1995.[3]

6 posted on 09/09/2013 7:15:51 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Gomez is a naturalized citizen. Is that what he want speople to do? I would think so.


7 posted on 09/09/2013 7:16:54 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy

“No habla ingles en el cathedral”


8 posted on 09/09/2013 7:23:13 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Alex Murphy

Did not happen in my Church. Sounds like they may have gotten cold feet in areas that are not already majority Hispanic.


9 posted on 09/09/2013 7:25:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Alex Murphy
I think the archbishop should address the economic effects of his compassionate musings on the people who legitimately live in the country.

Explain the offset to the physical, economic, spiritual, damage done by illegals killing, raping, drug dealing, robbing, ganging up neighborhoods, flooding the prisons.

Consider what is best for the whole flock, not just a few contagious strays.

10 posted on 09/09/2013 7:28:51 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Alex Murphy

Link does work now.

The inevitable, foreseeable consequence of more immigrant voters (legal and illegal) is an ever-larger margin of victory for pro-abortion politicians. These are the same politicians who hate the Church, and who applaud persecution of the Church—in such forms at the HHS Abortion Mandate.

Archbishop Gomez must take responsibility for the foreseeable result of his campaign for more immigrant voters. He is actually campaigning to solidify a pro-abortion majority in the United States.


11 posted on 09/09/2013 7:29:48 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Alex Murphy

No one has the right to enter someone else’s country AND THEN VOTE FOR MASS MURDER. But this is exactly what immigrants, including “Catholic” Hispanics, do.


12 posted on 09/09/2013 7:33:41 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Salvation

My point is that Hispanics (and other immigrant groups) come here and vote for mass murder. NO ONE has the right to come into another country and vote for mass murder.

Gomez appears to be completely unconcerned that his efforts must lead to an ever-larger majority of pro-abortion voters.


13 posted on 09/09/2013 7:36:54 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Alex Murphy

There is the matter of State Sovreignty.

There is the fact that imposing slave wages on LEGAL immigrants, by promoting the influx of ILLEGAL immigrants, is SOCIALIST and against Church teachings.

If the response is that employers “have a duty to provide ALL of their workers with a living wage”, that is further SOCIALISM.

Tell Mexico to fix their broken system.


14 posted on 09/09/2013 7:38:52 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I haven't heard a peep from the pulpit about this issue and I do belong to a parish in a heavily Hispanic area but it is also a rather traditional parish.
15 posted on 09/09/2013 7:51:48 AM PDT by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: Da Coyote
You will always be a Catholic due to your basptism and the mark it left on your soul.

Coming Home Network


16 posted on 09/09/2013 7:56:03 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Arthur McGowan

And were your ancestors Irish or Scotch? Were they immigrants to the United States? That’s what I’m getting at.

We are a land of immigrants.

I pray the pro-abortion bent does not materialize.


17 posted on 09/09/2013 7:58:20 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: oldbrowser
...should address the economic effects of his compassionate musings on the people who legitimately live in the country.

During a previous push for amnesty, some columnist found a couple of Vatican papers written by one Fr. Joseph Ratzinger (pre-papacy) that discussed such valid issues when accepting/refusing immigrants.

18 posted on 09/09/2013 8:08:26 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Alex Murphy

With all due respect to the cardinal, this is a political question, not a religious one. The Church should not address the topic one way or the other.


19 posted on 09/09/2013 8:15:27 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Salvation

I am Irish, Italian, French Canadian. Nobody among my ancestors came here and voted for politicians who promote genocide.

Hispanics, Asians, and other immigrant groups vote about 70% for pro-abortion politicians. Thus, if Gomez succeeds, he will be guaranteeing a bigger pro-abortion vote. And it’s the pro-aborts who gave us Obamacare—with the HHS Abortion Mandate, the fines for non-profit hospitals if they treat people free, etc. They want to reduce Christians to “freedom of worship”—i.e., going to church and coming home—but NO OTHER social/charitable activities.

Abortion, and oppression of the Church—this is what Archbishop Gomez and many other bishops are campaigning for.


20 posted on 09/09/2013 8:22:40 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Da Coyote

Sorry to hear you are in the ranks of “former” Catholics. That is a large number. I have had my struggles myself but have remained true to the Church. It is a fight that I intend to see through. I pray you return to the faith. Many Bishops are on the fringes of the church. My priest never mentioned reform in any way shape or form. It is not coming from on high everywhere. Remember the bishop is human and subject to error. Our sermon was Christ stressing the hard road involved in following him. The Church as well as the laity have crosses to bear.


21 posted on 09/09/2013 8:43:00 AM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: Salvation
Dear Salvation,

Your posts on this matter are insulting and are a calumny against my ancestors.

My grandparents and great-grandperents came to the United States LEGALLY. They passed through Ellis Island, and received official approval of the federal government to come to live and work (and become citizens) in the United States. They were subject to being sent back if not accepted by the government for any reason or impediment. They did NOT sneak in, they did NOT violate American laws, they did NOT steal from native-born Americans or LEGAL immigrants by taking that to which they were not entitled.

When you compare the millions of ILLEGAL immigrants to my grandparents, you tell falsehoods about my grandparents. This is objectively grave evil, the matter of mortal sin.

And DON'T call ME an immigrant, again! I am a native-born American! Calling me an immigrant is an insult and a calumny!

As it is, the United States permitted millions upon millions of immigrants to come to this country during the time my grandparents immigrated here. And you know what? We STILL permit roughly a million people PER YEAR to immigrate to the United States LEGALLY. EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

In fact, we permit more legal immigrants into our country each year than all the other countries of the world COMBINED.

We have a RIGHT to control our borders. In light of the fact that we permit more LEGAL immigration than the rest of the world combined, we have EVERY RIGHT to prevent ILLEGALS from coming here and staying here.

Stop insulting real Americans and our LEGAL immigrant ancestors and immorally comparing them to the thieves who steal our birthright by breaking our laws and coming here as ILLEGALS.


sitetest

22 posted on 09/09/2013 8:43:28 AM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Salvation
We are a land of immigrants.

My ancestors did not immigrate here, they founded the nation.

The British colonists were moving from Britain to Britain, they were immigrating to a foreign country.

23 posted on 09/09/2013 12:21:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: sitetest; Salvation
Dear Salvation, Your posts on this matter are insulting and are a calumny against my ancestors.

Yep, Salvation, find some other way to promote illegal immigration.

24 posted on 09/09/2013 12:23:12 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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