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Dallas church offers prayers for immigration reform
KHOU Houston ^ | September 8, 2013 | SHON GABLES

Posted on 09/09/2013 8:16:18 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

DALLAS — In the parking lot outside St. Patrick Catholic Church in Northeast Dallas, the Rev. Josef Vollmer-König greets his parishoners with hugs and good wishes.

"Have a good day; God bless you!" he said with a grin.

Rev. Vollmer-König is proud of his church's diversity. In fact, he challenges a visitor to name a country and says it is likely that one of his members will represent the location.

Senait Kalleb, from East Africa is proof of that.

"Its a very welcoming church", Kalleb said. "We have a lot of diversity here."

But she's not the only foreigner. So too is Vollmer-König, who is from Germany. His American citizenship is one reason why he held a special mass to support immigration reform on Sunday.

"We want everybody to live in protection and peace," the pastor said.

On Sunday morning, before a packed church, Vollmer-König gave a short homily and then participated in prayers seeking economic justice and political reform.

He said his decision to participate was motivated by teachings in the Bible, and the fact that many Catholics are immigrants.

(Excerpt) Read more at khou.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic
On Sunday morning, before a packed church [St. Patrick Catholic Church in Northeast Dallas], [the Rev. Josef Vollmer-König] gave a short homily and then participated in prayers seeking economic justice and political reform. He said his decision to participate was motivated by teachings in the Bible, and the fact that many Catholics are immigrants.
1 posted on 09/09/2013 8:16:18 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Unrestrained diversity will be the undoing of this country.


2 posted on 09/09/2013 8:18:32 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Alex Murphy

Import them all to the Vatican and let the Church support them... let them become Italians.


3 posted on 09/09/2013 8:20:40 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Alex Murphy
...his decision to participate was motivated by teachings in the Bible, and the fact that many Catholics are immigrants.

But MY Catholic grandparents were LEGAL immigrants,Father!

4 posted on 09/09/2013 8:20:43 AM PDT by massmike (At the heart of every Paul-bot argument is the fear that someone will keep them from their weed!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

It already is.

The writing was on the wall after LBJ opened the floodgate from the 3rd world countries and no subsequent president dared to reverse that trend.


5 posted on 09/09/2013 8:22:11 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Still, the parish I attend, although in the middle of what people call the Golden Ghetto, is very diverse. Africans, African-Americans, Asians from about four or five areas, every variety of Europeans, Indians of both persuasions.


6 posted on 09/09/2013 8:26:18 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Alex Murphy
"We want everybody to live in protection and peace," the pastor said.

And to own their own personal skittle pooping unicorn and golden egg laying goose...

How about wanting everybody to abide by the laws of the land and not to bare false witness - padre?

7 posted on 09/09/2013 8:30:13 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Resolute Conservative
"Unrestrained diversity will be the undoing of this country. "

As it was the undoing of every multi-ethnic empire/civilization in history. Rome, Austria-Hungary, the Ottomans, even Yugoslavia, and they at least looked like each other.
8 posted on 09/09/2013 8:34:21 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Alex Murphy
"He said his decision to participate was motivated by teachings in the Bible, and the fact that many Catholics are immigrants."

And, the fact most of these so-called "priests" have no idea what the Bible is actually saying.

9 posted on 09/09/2013 8:46:18 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
Actually, he's right. The part of the Bible that is relevant is Joshua, chapter 9. We are the Gibeonites.

The Israelites under Joshua were undocumented immigrants in the Land of Canaan. The Gibeonites were ordered to become hewers of wood and drawers of water for the Israelites. In modern terms that means welfare, food stamps, free health care, and affirmative action (for non-European immigrants), paid for by the American citizens.

10 posted on 09/09/2013 9:11:17 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Alex Murphy

morons


11 posted on 09/09/2013 9:11:39 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Alex Murphy

A local radio host was talking about this today. His kids attend a Catholic school and he was advocating going in and telling the school officials that his kids would still be attending the school but he wasn’t going to pay for it.

His logic was that if the church (or any church) supports illegals and their theft of jobs, free benefits, etc; then they won’t mind supporting his kids in their school for free.

Not a bad idea to make a point.


12 posted on 09/09/2013 9:17:37 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Mercat

I don’t think diversity means anything good

Its a canard

I only appreciated it among women before I became monogamous at 38...

No offense

Diversity is just a tool to destroy the founding culture

Nay....western civilization in general

Its like a vile curse word to me

Diversity...the idea....I fart in your general direction


13 posted on 09/09/2013 9:19:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: Verginius Rufus; Alex Murphy
"Actually, he's right. The part of the Bible that is relevant is Joshua, chapter 9. We are the Gibeonites. The Israelites under Joshua were undocumented immigrants in the Land of Canaan. The Gibeonites were ordered to become hewers of wood and drawers of water for the Israelites. In modern terms that means welfare, food stamps, free health care, and affirmative action (for non-European immigrants), paid for by the American citizens."

Actually, if this is the kind of hermeneutic you employ, then just about any fanciful thing can be crafted from the text. Using ordinary interpretive principles, the "priest" is wrong (but typically a liberal Catholic.

There is no biblical basis for breaking into a country for financial gain (the excuse used by those crossing the border illegally). There is no analogical justification to say this historical group represents us (or them). And, no the Israelites were not "undocumented immigrants" in Canaan. The land had been given to Abraham 430 years earlier and they were just laying claim to their deed.

14 posted on 09/09/2013 10:18:09 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Verginius Rufus; Dutchboy88
Actually, he's right. The part of the Bible that is relevant is Joshua, chapter 9. We are the Gibeonites. The Israelites under Joshua were undocumented immigrants in the Land of Canaan. The Gibeonites were ordered to become hewers of wood and drawers of water for the Israelites. In modern terms that means welfare, food stamps, free health care, and affirmative action (for non-European immigrants), paid for by the American citizens.

Where do the Catholics enter into this? Are they the ones enslaving American citizens (the Gibeonites) and forcing them to provide welfare for the illegal immigrants (the Israelites)? Are you actually arguing that THIS is the Catholic Church's end-state for immigration reform - American enslavement? ROTFL!

Mosaic Law makes reference to Israel being the rightful heirs and title-holders of the land, who are supposed to take physical possession of what they already hold the deed to. Further, once occupied, Mosaic Law applied to anyone and everyone that occupied said land. So once Israel crossed the Jordan River, anyone who occupies space inside the borders (legally or illegally) were now subject to the Mosaic Laws (including any that might govern citizenship and government handouts). And any "undocumented immigrants" who were allowed to stay as "strangers within the gates" were expected to learn and obey those laws themselves....

...when all Israel comes to appear before the LORD your God in the place which He chooses, you shall read this law before all Israel in their hearing.
Gather the people together, men and women and little ones, and the stranger who is within your gates, that they may hear and that they may learn to fear the LORD your God and carefully observe all the words of this law,
and that their children, who have not known it, may hear and learn to fear the LORD your God as long as you live in the land which you cross the Jordan to possess.”
-- Deuteronomy 31:11-13

15 posted on 09/09/2013 10:50:47 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: wardaddy

As a political force I agree. As a pleasant environment, I enjoy it in my Church.


16 posted on 09/09/2013 11:28:10 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Dutchboy88

I thought it would be obvious that my post was sarcastic. Good grief.


17 posted on 09/09/2013 11:29:33 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Alex Murphy

Didn’t happen at my church.


18 posted on 09/09/2013 1:51:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Resolute Conservative

And where did your ancerstors come from?


19 posted on 09/09/2013 1:51:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Germany and Ireland before the Revolutionary War.


20 posted on 09/09/2013 2:02:31 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

So were your great grand parents immigrants to the U. S.?


21 posted on 09/09/2013 2:14:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

No they were born here as were their grandparents, what’s your point?


22 posted on 09/09/2013 2:19:53 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Mercat

I like traditional values church

Don’t care how many non whites it has

God can reach them fine wherever they choose to go

I will confess that aside from the fried chicken and banana pudding etc that those all day black churches down home are way too long for me

And all that shouting

As a southern Baptist I likely enjoy Greek church most when I venture out

First funeral I ever went to was a black man at a black church

He was our family man.....too much Dr Tichenors got him driving one nite....he taught me a lot.....wimmins hunting

I can still smell that duskiness he always had from hard living

44 years latery wife and I spoke about him at lunch today


23 posted on 09/09/2013 2:21:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: wardaddy

You have a gift for writing. Your post was very Southern and wonderful. But I’m sure you’ve been told this before.

Regards, smvoice


24 posted on 09/09/2013 2:23:16 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you were born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: wardaddy
I'll give you one line from a song your post immediately brought to mind

"Another dirty, dusty Delta day..."

25 posted on 09/09/2013 2:32:11 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you were born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

That all of us are immigrants in one form or another. My great grandfather came from Ireland.


26 posted on 09/09/2013 4:12:13 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Legal immigrants who came here to assimilate and make the whole better not take away from it as leeches and try and make it like the area they fled.


27 posted on 09/10/2013 6:02:35 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

That is my prayer, too, Resolute. But I can tell you from where I stand, it’s not promising. I live in a small Texas town, population 2,000 strong. The illegal population makes the town about 10,000 weak and very needy. Our hospital cannot accommodate that kind of increase. And that’s just one area of concern. Schools are another desperate problem.


28 posted on 09/10/2013 6:08:03 AM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Hey, sorry. There are so many posters around here who promote such nonsense, I missed your subtlety. I’ll be more careful next time.


29 posted on 09/10/2013 8:29:15 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: 353FMG
"The writing was on the wall after LBJ opened the floodgate from the 3rd world countries and no subsequent president dared to reverse that trend."

and that is the salient point. And some, Dubya and Obama in particular, have chosen to throw gasoline on LBJ's fire.

30 posted on 09/10/2013 11:04:19 AM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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To: Salvation

“That all of us are immigrants in one form or another. “

Gosh, where have we seen that self-serving line before? SPLC? Obama? Dubya?

In contrast to that Open Borders foolishness, many Americans are descendents of colonists.

Colonists who carved a country out of wilderness so that your ancestors would have someplace nice to immigrate to, and so that you could advocate transforming it into something else.


31 posted on 09/10/2013 11:14:40 AM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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To: smvoice

thank you


32 posted on 09/10/2013 9:08:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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