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Why is Philomena No Longer Considered a Saint?
Canon Law Made Easy ^ | September 12, 2013 | Cathy Caridi, J.C.L.

Posted on 09/12/2013 7:30:16 AM PDT by Weiss White

Q: How is it that the martyr Philomena used to be a saint, but isn’t any more? I don’t understand how the Church can canonize a saint and then change its mind… –Mary

A: Philomena is not, and has never been a saint.

Many Catholics erroneously believe that Philomena used to be a saint, and was somehow “decanonized” by Pope John XXIII in 1961. In fact, the action taken that year by the Congregation of Rites—which back then had jurisdiction over matters pertaining to the canonization of saints—actually clarified and made more consistent the canonical status of the person commonly known as “Saint Philomena,” which up to that point had been quite confused. But the surprising refusal of some lay-Catholics to accept the Vatican’s pronouncement has subsequently caused the confusion surrounding Philomena to be greater than ever!

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1 posted on 09/12/2013 7:30:16 AM PDT by Weiss White
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To: Weiss White
But the Pope does not canonize people as saints unless the evidence is as rock-solid as can possibly be.

Then explain the current pope's determination to declare John XXIII a saint.

St. Philolena, pray for the wayward modernist church.

2 posted on 09/12/2013 7:36:56 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: Weiss White
According to The Catholic Store;

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They haven't gotten the memo yet ..

"Saint Philomena is the patron of babies, orphans, test takers, youth, and impossible causes. Very little is known about her life as she was martyred in the early years of the Church at the age of fourteen. Saint Philomena's shrine in Mugnano has had numerous cures attributed to it since 1805. She is the only person to be recognized as a Saint solely on the basis of miraculous intercession. St. Philomena's feast day is August 11th.."

3 posted on 09/12/2013 7:37:06 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Weiss White

post to the “Questions no one is asking” thread pls


4 posted on 09/12/2013 7:53:50 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Weiss White

There is a St. Philomena parish in Torrance, CA. They wouldn’t have a parish named after her if she weren’t a saint.


5 posted on 09/12/2013 8:02:24 AM PDT by married21
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To: jtal

What evidence do you have against Pope John XXIII that would thwart his canonization?


6 posted on 09/12/2013 8:14:26 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: jtal

Got to remember that Blessed John XXIII is going to be declared a saint on the same day, next Divine Mercy Sunday as Blessed John Paul II. Blessed John XXIII going for the ride in other words, while the bigger focus will be on Blessed John Paul II being declared a saint. Blessed JP II will be famous for making popular the divine mercy devotion.


7 posted on 09/12/2013 8:18:19 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: married21

I belong to a parish, St. Christopher’s in which at one time declared not a saint.


8 posted on 09/12/2013 8:20:31 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Weiss White
St. Faustina miraculously answered something for me before she was declared a saint.
9 posted on 09/12/2013 9:09:32 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: Biggirl

What’s up with St. Christopher? Has he been reinstated as a Saint? My brother Chris was pretty disappointed when it was decided that there was not enough evidence that St. Christopher really lived and had done what was attributed to him.


10 posted on 09/12/2013 10:23:22 AM PDT by married21
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To: SumProVita
What evidence do you have against Pope John XXIII that would thwart his canonization?

I have no evidence to thwart canonization. We don't have a "devil's advocate" any more so as far as I know no one has evidence to thwart canonization.

But the burden of proof is on those advocating canonization. Ordinarily, two verified miracles due to the candidate's intervention are required for canonization. Pope Francis has waived this requirement for John XXIII.

John Paul II however does have two verified miracles.

11 posted on 09/12/2013 10:31:48 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: married21

I believe he was by Pope John Paul II.


12 posted on 09/12/2013 10:35:02 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: jtal

Ordinarily, two verified miracles due to the candidate’s intervention are required for canonization. Pope Francis has waived this requirement for John XXIII.

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He only waived the need for the second verified miracle didn’t he?


13 posted on 09/12/2013 11:09:42 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Weiss White

My mother’s real name was Filomina and nobody named kids after people who weren’t saints.


14 posted on 09/12/2013 11:13:08 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Weiss White

She is still a saint. She may not be in the new Roman Missal, but she is still a saint.


15 posted on 09/12/2013 2:56:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: married21

St. Christopher is still a saint too.


16 posted on 09/12/2013 2:57:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: married21

St. Christopher here>

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1680181/posts


17 posted on 09/12/2013 3:00:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Weiss White

St. Philomena here

http://www.ewtn.com/saintsHoly/saints/P/stphilomena.asp


18 posted on 09/12/2013 3:02:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
She is still a saint. She may not be in the new Roman Missal, but she is still a saint.

So much for the bogus Roman Catholic unity, eh???

19 posted on 09/12/2013 7:27:48 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Weiss White

I thought all this talk of “decanonizing” saints is really just a pragmatic matter of not enough days in the year for feast days for all of them.

Just because the Missal doesn’t list St. Christopher or any other saint that got bumped doesn’t reflect some kind of reversal of their status.


20 posted on 09/12/2013 8:28:10 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Weiss White

PFL


21 posted on 09/12/2013 8:30:21 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: married21

My wife is the Confirmation Director there. Very active Christ centered Parish. There are 450 teens in Confirmation year 1 and 2 classes. Maybe that’s a miracle whether Philomena is a Saint or not!

http://stphilomenaparish.org/


22 posted on 09/12/2013 8:32:55 PM PDT by Shark24
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To: Shark24

What are the popular confirmation names this year?


23 posted on 09/12/2013 11:37:36 PM PDT by married21
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