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What Is A Roman Catholic Buddhist?
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Posted on 09/13/2013 7:17:47 PM PDT by jodyel

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CONTENDING FOR THE FAITH

In this regular feature Dave and Tom respond to questions from listeners and readers of The Berean Call. Here is this week’s question:

Dear Dave and Tom: I have friends who are conservative Roman Catholics, and they just went through the experience of seeing their daughter become a Roman Catholic Buddhist. I know that sounds like a contradiction in terms but it’s literally true. Since you both know a lot about Roman Catholicism, I wondered if you could give me some insights that I could share with them because they are quite shaken over their daughter’s conversion. This may be an opportunity to share the gospel with them as they are truly questioning their faith. Thank you for your help.

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1 posted on 09/13/2013 7:17:47 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel

Kinda like the world’s tallest midget or Jumbo Shrimp.


2 posted on 09/13/2013 7:19:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: jodyel

Someone who is a liar and an all roads lead to God moron.


3 posted on 09/13/2013 7:19:58 PM PDT by svcw (We do not fear death, as much as we fear no one will remember us.)
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To: jodyel

Who am I to judge, after all I’m a Roman Catholic Male Lesbian. And I think all of us RCML’s should apply immediately to the government for protected status.


4 posted on 09/13/2013 7:20:59 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: jodyel

Confused?


5 posted on 09/13/2013 7:23:22 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Mastador1

Its kinda like those straight guys who do gay porn. They aren’t really gay, they just get paid for having sex with men on camera.


6 posted on 09/13/2013 7:25:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: jodyel

There are no Roman Catholic Buddhists. The two systems are mutually exclusive. Catholics can meditate. I do. That is a Buddhist practice. It is also a Hindu practice, and even saying the Rosary in a quiet place is meditation and can be very similar to meditation as practiced by Buddists. Buddhist monks also wear toga-like robes but Catholics dressing that way would not be Buddhist Catholics or necessarily even monks. Shaving one’s head to a topknot likewise does not make one a Buddhist Catholic. Peripherals, while they may confuse observers, are not content or even actually indicative of content.


7 posted on 09/13/2013 7:26:09 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: cripplecreek
Its kinda like those straight guys who do gay porn. They aren’t really gay, they just get paid for having sex with men on camera.

"You either .... ..... or you do not .... ...., there is no in between." - Andrew Dice Clay.

8 posted on 09/13/2013 7:26:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jodyel

One can be a Catholic Platonist and Aristotilian, why not a follower of the philosopher Siddhartha? One would have to excise some of Siddhartha’s Hindu baggage, like Zen did, but after that, why not? I could see how one might be able to unite Zen mediation techniques with, say, the spiritual exercises of St. Ignatius.


9 posted on 09/13/2013 7:26:44 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: cripplecreek

Except that RCML’s are only interested in women, more like those Heterosexual men that just love women and don’t want to have anything to do sexually with men. So I guess you can join whatever group you want , I’ll stick with mine.


10 posted on 09/13/2013 7:28:59 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: svcw

All roads lead to something, except in congressional pork.


11 posted on 09/13/2013 7:32:57 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

maybe not so much confused as covering all the bases....

buddhism is new age and cool and broadcasts that she is smart and enlightened...

and she is keeping the catholicism around on the chance that there was some truth to all that stuff she learned in Sunday school when she meets her maker.


12 posted on 09/13/2013 7:40:30 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: jodyel

Replace “Roman Catholic” with “Christian”.

There is no place in GOD’s creation for a Christian Buddhist.

“I am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. NO ONE comes to the father except by ME.”

Thus says our LORD and Savior JESUS the CHRIST. The only begotten SON of the incomparably great “I AM”.

There is no place for Buddha or any other false god in that equation.


13 posted on 09/13/2013 7:40:50 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: jodyel

I’m a Lollard from way back. John Wycliff for, well, my spiritual non-adviser.


14 posted on 09/13/2013 7:44:15 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: jodyel

The article is hilarious for its gosh-golly antiCathoic bigotry.


15 posted on 09/13/2013 7:44:48 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: jodyel

The Jews, and Hebrews before them had a positively brilliant idea, that any belief system can benefit from.

Simply put, it was the acceptance that not only didn’t they know it all; but that other people often have very good ideas as well.

So even if a heathen has a good idea, why not adopt it? And this acceptance has profited them immensely, because even before their diaspora, they made an effort to learn from others, even if they were their enemies. And this learning good ideas from others really came into its own with the diaspora: each and every place and people contributing to their knowledge of things.

While Christians are sometimes hesitant to embrace this idea, they are usually still willing to separate the wheat from the chaff in the ideas of others, as long as it doesn’t really despise Christian beliefs.

An excellent example of this is Acupuncture. Dating very far back, some suspect to the Neolithic period, it evolved into a very complex system of medicine. However, it also adopted a log of pagan and mystical ideas. Yet these are not integral to the system, and can be easily ignored.

So here is the question. If you have “secular acupuncture”, no longer tainted by pagan mysticism, is it still anathema to Christianity? Especially if it works?


16 posted on 09/13/2013 7:46:49 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: jodyel
The pope says even atheists can be saved and they worship the same god as the Muslims and then Mother Theresa says that whatever you are.

"If in coming face to face with God we accept Him in our lives, then we are converting. We become a better Hindu, a better Muslim, a better Catholic, a better whatever we are. ... What God is in your mind you must accept" (from Mother Teresa: Her People and Her Work , by Desmond Doig, p. 156, as quoted by Dave Hunt, Global Peace and the Rise of Antichrist , p. 149).

Calling the Catholic religion Christian is not just a stretch it’s simply wrong.

18 posted on 09/13/2013 7:55:34 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: jodyel

An ecumenist.


19 posted on 09/13/2013 7:55:41 PM PDT by SRT8 man (I recommend SRT8 for your muscle car needs)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Because ANYTHING independent of what God provides for us through faith in Christ is not in His Plan. It’s also called sin.


20 posted on 09/13/2013 7:55:57 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Because the object of following the Five Fold Way is to achieve Nirvana, which is NOT the same as the Beatific Vision but something one might call “the great Silence.” Or you might call it the “Big Freeze,” because it represents the end of all motion. God is not there, Nothing is there. There is no there.


21 posted on 09/13/2013 7:56:32 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: RobbyS

>> God is not there, Nothing is there. There is no there.

Sounds a lot like the “outer darkness”.

I don’t want to be there. I want to spend eternity in the Light.


22 posted on 09/13/2013 7:58:53 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: arthurus

Also keep in mind Taiwan’s Tzu Chi Foundation, a charitable Buddhist organization based on the founder’s interaction with Catholic nuns. They do remarkable work, and readily acknowledge their debt to their Christian model.


23 posted on 09/13/2013 8:15:18 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: CynicalBear
>> Calling the Catholic religion Christian is not just a stretch it’s simply wrong. <<

Yep, good thing protestants showed up in the 1600s and founded Christianity many centuries after Christ.

24 posted on 09/13/2013 8:16:19 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Sorry, I just felt a BIG “gosh-golly antiCathoic bigotry” coming on and had to let it go.

Exhale....let it go...there now...all better.

Till the next time. :)


25 posted on 09/13/2013 8:17:35 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: BillyBoy
>>Yep, good thing protestants showed up in the 1600s and founded Christianity many centuries after Christ.<<

Nah, Christ and the apostles started the whole thing. The RCC corrupted the teachings and tried to kill off the true Christians but Jesus promised they would survive and they did. Luther et el tried to go Catholic light but God saw fit to use that to make His word available to those He called to be His. God also promised to preserve His word for us and He did. Jesus promised the Holy Spirit would guide us and He has. So here we are with the admonition to rebuke and we do!

26 posted on 09/13/2013 8:30:28 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The problem with that analogy, ye...whatever your username is....is that there is only one way to salvation and by adopting all these “good ideas” as you call them from this religion or that religion, Catholicism has become corrupted beyond recognizability as true Christianity.

They have, in fact, done just the opposite of your acupuncture analogy by incorporating pagan and mystical ideas into Catholic worship.

And they are dragging gullible non-Catholics into this mess with them

See:

[url}http://www.thebereancall.org/content/evangelical-mysticism[/url]

So, no....insofar as salvation goes, there is only one idea and one way...belief in Christ and that is it.


27 posted on 09/13/2013 8:31:22 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: cripplecreek

I guess they need the money.


28 posted on 09/13/2013 8:32:20 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: BillyBoy

Protestants didn’t invade the all powerful Catholic organization from the outside, they broke away from it as Christians, for their faith, from the inside, they were Catholics, forced to be perhaps, but Catholics.

They left that denomination, just as so many American Catholics do today, to pursue their Christian faith which they feel isn’t happening within the Catholic denomination.

This shouldn’t cause such darkly negative reactions from the Christians of the Catholic denomination, they are getting plenty of replacements from Mexico, the Philippines, and the other major Catholic countries of the world and Latin America.


29 posted on 09/13/2013 8:34:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: arthurus

You just cratered your own argument.

You’ve incorporated facets of other religions right into your Catholicism.

I think my point has been made.


30 posted on 09/13/2013 8:35:30 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Go on with your bad self then, Gluteus! lol

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.


31 posted on 09/13/2013 8:37:03 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: RobbyS

Good answer. Could one be a Catholic Confucian? I think so.


32 posted on 09/13/2013 8:37:52 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Nervous Tick

Preaching to the choir, Tick. :)


33 posted on 09/13/2013 8:38:02 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: RobbyS

I should add that many Christian mystics came to a similar place. So, I’m not so sure you couldn’t have something like “the Tao that can be spoken isn’t the eternal Tao” generally reconciling with Christian mysticism.


34 posted on 09/13/2013 8:39:21 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Burkean

And the “good works” is most likely the tie that binds them together.


35 posted on 09/13/2013 8:39:32 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel

Isn’t that like a Corporal-Captain?


36 posted on 09/13/2013 8:40:02 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ansel12

But they don’t like us telling anyone about it.


37 posted on 09/13/2013 8:41:41 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Gluteus Maximus

More like a Catholic Confusion! LOL


38 posted on 09/13/2013 8:42:31 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: dfwgator

Or Captain Corelli’s mandolin?

Wait, what?!


39 posted on 09/13/2013 8:43:40 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: CynicalBear
>> The RCC corrupted the teachings and tried to kill off the true Christians <<

And when did happen? The only "Christians" that the RCC wiped out before Protestantism were those teaching heresy, such as heretics from the first seven ecumenical councils who argued falsehoods like the idea that Jesus was purely divine and not human, or that Jesus wasn't born God and later "received" his Godhood. Thanks to the RCC wiping out that brand of "Christianity", we have true Christian doctrines today like the correct canon of the Bible and the Nicene Creed. You can thank us later.

>> but Jesus promised they would survive and they did. <<

Who survived? It certainly wasn't YOUR brand of Christianity, since it didn't exist yet. Unless you're going to claim to be an Orthodox Christian or from the Assyrian Church of the East, as they could make a legitimate claim to be exist independently of the RCC for centuries. All other Christians movements developed much later.

>> Luther et el tried to go Catholic light <<

E.G., Luther still believed in those nasty Catholic doctrines like venerating the Virgin Mary and observing various feast days. Then your brand of Christianity came even later, and by the 1800s or so, we had "true" Christianity, a mere eighteen hundred years after Christ walked the earth. Good thing your denomination, whatever it is, showed up to restore it after all that time.

>> God also promised to preserve His word for us and He did. Jesus promised the Holy Spirit would guide us and He has. <<

Yes, which is why the Catholic Church can trace its lineage back 2000 years to the original apostles, through an unbroken chain, unlike all those other Christian churches that claim they "restored" the "original Church" centuries later.

40 posted on 09/13/2013 8:45:55 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: ansel12
>> Protestants didn’t invade the all powerful Catholic organization from the outside, they broke away from it as Christians, for their faith, from the inside, they were Catholics, forced to be perhaps, but Catholics. They left that denomination, just as so many American Catholics do today, to pursue their Christian faith which they feel isn’t happening within the Catholic denomination. <<

Very true, they left and started their own Christian denominations because they weren't happy with what was being taught in the Catholic Church. (personally I wish liberal Catholics who support abortion and gay marriage would follow suit and stop calling themselves "Catholics" when they oppose a fundamental teaching of the church). My post was in response to a freeper who falsely claimed that other Christian denominations existed independently of the Catholic Church for centuries and upheld the "original faith". I suppose he could make that claim if he's an Orthodox Christian, but if he's a Protestant, his faith traditions weren't fully formed until the 1600s at the earliest.

>> This shouldn’t cause such darkly negative reactions from the Christians of the Catholic denomination, they are getting plenty of replacements from Mexico, the Philippines, and the other major Catholic countries of the world and Latin America. <<

It really isn't news, other such non-Christian traditions have been blended into Catholic worship, such as the Day of the Dead in Mexico coming from Aztec ancestor worship, and voodoo coming from mixing French Catholicism rituals with West African Vodou in Haiti.

41 posted on 09/13/2013 8:52:56 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: Nervous Tick

Buddha never claimed to be a god.


42 posted on 09/13/2013 9:00:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (A Buddhist goes over to a hot-dog vendor and says, "Make me one with everything.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m not understanding your point.

Are you saying it’s OK to worship Buddha, or entertwine Buddha worship with worship of the one true GOD, because he never claimed to be a god?


43 posted on 09/13/2013 9:04:23 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m curious: how much do you know about Buddhism?

It’s an offshoot of Hinduism — which believes in a pantheon of ‘gods’.

Do you believe that paying homage to a plethora of manufactured gods is in alignment with the teaching of the ONE true GOD?

Do you believe that paying homage to Buddha is in alignment with the WORD of Jehovah?

If so please explain why. Please give me references from Scripture to support your belief.

Thanks and FRegards


44 posted on 09/13/2013 9:12:06 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I’m afraid you don’t know much about Buddhism. All cultures develop myths and superstitions, and that includes Buddhist ones. There are people who have superstitious quasi-religious ideas about the Buddha, sure. But Buddhism has no god, no creation stories, and does not worship Buddha. It is a philosophy about the mind and the source of suffering, not a religion. It is not some branch of Hinduism.

It is certainly possible to be Buddhist while also being Christian, or Jewish, or atheist.


45 posted on 09/13/2013 9:19:52 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Mrs. Don-o

...crickets...


46 posted on 09/13/2013 9:19:54 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: mlo

>> I’m afraid you don’t know much about Buddhism.

I’m afraid you’re delusional. Buddhism absolutely does have its roots in Hindu.


47 posted on 09/13/2013 9:22:00 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: jodyel

Oh that’s o.k. I have friends who are Zen Mennonite. We have dinner sometimes with the Hindu Rabbi.


48 posted on 09/13/2013 9:22:30 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Nervous Tick

No, exactly the opposite. Buddha did not ask to be adored as a god; and even if he had, nobody should adore him.


49 posted on 09/13/2013 9:24:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (A Buddhist goes over to a hot-dog vendor and says, "Make me one with everything.")
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Because both Plato and Aristotle were Europeans, even if they were not followers of Christ. When Christianity evolved in Europe, it only appropriated/borrowed cultural ideas and practices of those cultures (god/goddess of this/that became saints defender of this/that; winter solstice became Christmas; and so on. Or, of course, Aristotle’s Natural Law evolved into Christian’s version of it.) Sidharta was not, and the cultures of his followers were not really overlapped with the culture of followers of Christ.

Who knows whether Christians will ever appropriate/borrow components from other cultures again in the future.


50 posted on 09/13/2013 9:27:23 PM PDT by paudio (Liberals teach Whites about guilt and shame better than Christian churches do...)
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