Posted on 09/15/2013 1:37:28 PM PDT by matthewrobertolson
That contradicts what the Bible says. A saint is one who serves God.
So what denomination are you claiming as the “correct” one?
Yes, yes, and yes again.
>> “since a saint is someone known to be in Heaven...” <<
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Nonsense!
Likely, the majority of ‘saints’ canonized by the ‘church’ are in no better shape than the ‘church’ that invented them.
They took the wide gate, and they are slated for destruction.
amen! I don’t believe in the church I attend.
I believe Jesus died on the cross for my sins. John 3:16.
>> “How many Catholic Churches are named after Jesus?” <<
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There actually are some: “Christ the King,” “Most Precious Blood,” etc.
When I ask my Catholic friends how they identify themselves I rarely will hear Christian. I usually hear Catholic. It makes me think they have more faith in the Catholic church than in Christ.
I identify myself as a Christian...a follower of Christ.
“So what denomination are you claiming as the “correct” one?”
Well since the Bible doesn’t mention “denominations” I really don’t think that has anything to do with the discussion.
I am a Christian who believes Jesus is the Son of God. I believe Jesus died for my sins. Jesus is the Truth and the Life. Jesus is my savior.
Not a denomination.
It is a simple biblical reply to the idea that Mary and others are dead.
If Mary does not have ‘everlasting life’ using the KJV translation... what hope do any of us have?
The argument is as simple as one commonly used on atheists... if you believe the scientific research that indicates a finite universe and in laws of physics that do not allow for an effect to be greater than its cause... you don’t really have a choice but to believe in a supernatural cause for the universe.
Likewise... if you believe the words of John 3:16... it would be a fallacy to refer to saints... Mary especially as dead.
Amen, brother!
I did answer more than two ways.
Here- once again- is it Biblical for a man to raise a man to a saint?
Jesus is a man, He raised all of the children of God to saints. IS THAT Biblical?
Well yes. Jesus, himself IS the living word of God. Can’t get more Biblical than Jesus, So Yes.
Who are the saints? The children are the saints. Who are the children? The children of God are those who have faith in him.
Ephesians 2:19-20
19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone,…
So every time you ask someone to pray for you, and intercede on your behalf you are acknowledging they are saints, and ever time you believe you get an inheritance with Jesus, you are saying you , yourself are a saint.
So you are unwilling to opine on what denomination is right? B ut you appear certain that the Catholic Church, founded by Our Lord and governed by His appointed Apostles and their hand picked successors - that you are willing to claim is “wrong” - do I understand you now?
The problem with your “logic” is that you have no way whatsoever to know who rerally is a ‘saint.’
Probably not too many.
Catholic is the Universal Church - it exists on every continent - it has existed since Our Lord founded it. To claim that Catholic and Christian are somehow not synonymous is to ignore history and truth.
Mary is dead just as everyone else who is no longer on this earth. Their souls live according to and are where God has put them. We can no longer communicate with them until we too die and join them.
All men (and women) are sinners and have fallen short. Without the sacrifice Jesus made we would all face our due penalty. That includes Mary, every Pope, every Minister and every Deacon.
There is a word for someone who teaches the Bible is in error or casts doubt about Gods word. A common tactic among some.
And what business is i9t of yours, mine, driftdiver's, or anyone else's who is in heaven and who isn't in heaven?
It's ironic that Catholics are the first ones to loudly complain when they perceive that others may be judging them, vehemently invoking Matthew 7:1, when they think someone is judging whether or not they stand a chance of getting into heaven.
Jesus is also the Son of God. Do you profess to be the Son of God as well?
I can ask living people to pray for me all the time. The dead are beyond my reach as long as I can see over the dirt.
I think your definition of Catholic Church and mine differ. You see to place your faith in what eminates from Rome.
I don’t.
I place my faith in Christ and Christ alone.
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