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Are People Drinking Out of the Baptismal Font?
Creative Minority Report ^ | September 17, 2013 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 09/17/2013 11:55:41 AM PDT by NYer

ABC News has this breaking story. Holy water in baptismal fonts may not be safe to drink. I know, right? Who knew?

Researchers at the Institute of Hygiene and Applied Immunology at the Medical University of Vienna tested water from 21 springs in Austria and 18 fonts in Vienna and found samples contained up to 62 million bacteria per milliliter of water, none of it safe to drink.

Tests indicated 86 percent of the holy water, commonly used in baptism ceremonies and to wet congregants' lips, was infected with common bacteria found in fecal matter such as E. coli, enterococci and Campylobacter, which can lead to diarrhea, cramping, abdominal pain, and fever.

Nitrates, commonly found in fertilizer from farms, were also identified in the water. If ingested, water containing nitrates over the maximum contaminant level could cause serious illness, especially in infants younger than 6 months, which could lead to death if untreated, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

"We need to warn people against drinking from these sources," said Dr Alexander Kirschner, study researcher and microbiologist at the Medical University of Vienna.
They really think we're idiots, don't they? I mean stone cold idiots.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
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1 posted on 09/17/2013 11:55:41 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Lol, ping!


2 posted on 09/17/2013 11:55:58 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer; Chode

In all my years of being Catholic I have never heard of anyone dying from drinking Holy Water.


3 posted on 09/17/2013 11:57:51 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Holy water is perfectly safe because they boil the hell out of it!


4 posted on 09/17/2013 12:00:04 PM PDT by bigtoona
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To: NYer
... and to wet congregants' lips.

Whaa?

5 posted on 09/17/2013 12:02:53 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: NYer

Our parish found it necessary to put a sign on the font reminding people to put their money in the collection basket. The baptismal font is not a wishing well. But if anyone baptised there wound up in the hospital because of water-borne disease I haven’t heard about it.


6 posted on 09/17/2013 12:03:25 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: NYer

OH? So I can continue washing my feet, right? As long as I don’t ingest. /s

They don’t bother to use any cultural sensitivity do they.


7 posted on 09/17/2013 12:06:48 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR
They don’t bother to use any cultural sensitivity do they.

Only if they're Muslims.

8 posted on 09/17/2013 12:08:45 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: OpusatFR

Rodney Dangerfield did in Easy Money.


9 posted on 09/17/2013 12:09:00 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NYer

Bizarre ancient customs die hard.


10 posted on 09/17/2013 12:16:17 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: NYer

LOL -

Only heathens would think that people drink holy water (maybe an athiest or two).

Why don’t they report what is IN holy water? What do they think makes it holy? That dirty nasty Holy Spirit of course.

By the way, lots of peoples fingers (including young peoples) get “dipped” in the holy water routinely. I am not familiar with Jesus’ teachings on how to keep the holy water purified. Therefore I am not surprised that it is not healthy to drink.

Finally, when I see algae or fish in the holy water, I don’t touch it.


11 posted on 09/17/2013 12:23:20 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: NYer

People getting sick is now an “lol” matter, huh?


12 posted on 09/17/2013 12:24:08 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Our parish found it necessary to put a sign on the font reminding people to put their money in the collection basket. The baptismal font is not a wishing well.

LMAO! What church do you go to that this sign is needed? Tell me it was right after Christmas or Easter when the part-timers show up for their annual dose of God.

13 posted on 09/17/2013 12:25:06 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: BipolarBob
People getting sick is now an “lol” matter, huh

Bob, let me help here. No Christian faith that I am aware of supports drinking holy water. That is the premise of the post. ABC news... a study... must take action.... investigation.... Do you see where this might be going?

Of all the things going on in the world today, somebody at ABC thought this was newsworthy and important for Americans to be concerned about.

That is what is LOL. And I do think it is ROFLMAO funny.

14 posted on 09/17/2013 12:30:22 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: BipolarBob

I don’t think there’s any claim that even a single person has gotten sick doing this, so, yes, it is a “lol” matter.


15 posted on 09/17/2013 12:37:18 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NYer

I also never heard of anyone dying from sharing a common chalice. (other than the grail in Indiana Jones)


16 posted on 09/17/2013 12:43:12 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: NYer

If you boil it first, it should reduce none of its holiness....


17 posted on 09/17/2013 12:57:24 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Tenacious 1

Remember not too long ago there was a hue and cry over the use of incense at Mass because it would cause breathing problems and indoor air pollution.

That was quickly followed by the use of burning beeswax candles creating havoc with particles in the air and so forth.

~Now Holy Water.

It is simply more distraction from the true issues of the day; i.e., the wholesale abridgment of the rights of religious conscience, the declaration through juridical fiat that religious practice may only be in the private sphere and damned in the public one and so forth.

My very orthodox foot is going to meet some solipsistic butt in the future. I can see this coming.


18 posted on 09/17/2013 12:59:08 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR
At my Orthodox parish we do drink Holy Water. But it is either from our personal supply or dispensed from a closed container with a spigot near the sanctuary.

A large amount of water is blessed every year on January 6 at Theophany (Ephiphany) - the Baptism of Our Lord. Individual bottles are distributed to the Faithful. Small amounts of that Holy Water can then be added to other water, making it Holy Water as well. We do drink that. Care needs to be taken that it is not drunk or used in a casual way. I have never heard of any health issues with drinking that water.

19 posted on 09/17/2013 1:21:55 PM PDT by Martin Tell (Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni.)
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To: All
Researchers at the Institute of Hygiene and Applied Immunology at the Medical University of Vienna tested water from 21 springs in Austria and 18 fonts in Vienna and found samples contained up to 62 million bacteria per milliliter of water, none of it safe to drink.

Tests indicated 86 percent of the holy water, commonly used in baptism ceremonies and to wet congregants' lips, was infected with common bacteria found in fecal matter such as E. coli, enterococci and Campylobacter, which can lead to diarrhea, cramping, abdominal pain, and fever.

Nitrates, commonly found in fertilizer from farms, were also identified in the water. If ingested, water containing nitrates over the maximum contaminant level could cause serious illness, especially in infants younger than 6 months, which could lead to death if untreated, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

Interesting.

20 posted on 09/17/2013 1:43:44 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: NYer
Nobody drinks holy water! I do know a few people who sign themselves in the Hispanic way (kissing their hand after making the sign of the Cross) so I suppose they might touch their hand to their lips after dipping their fingers in the font.

I notice there's no mention of levels or ppms . . . there's a certain amount of bacteria that occurs naturally in the air and on every surface, not to mention on people.

So long as the sexton does his job and cleans and refills the font regularly, this doesn't look much like Public Health Issue No. 1.

It's just Attack the Obvious Christians No. 1 for this week . . . . and those of you who are standing on the sidelines cheering against those nasty Papists: you're next. The only reason they're after us is that (1) we don't support their agenda; and (2) if they can destroy us, the smaller protestant sects will be easy to pick off, one by one.

"They came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up." - Martin Niemöller, Lutheran pastor

21 posted on 09/17/2013 3:29:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: NYer

Fail!

Baptismal water comes in from the same pipe that all the rest of the water does. and it usually has a high Cl2 residual.

No danger if people take regular showers.


22 posted on 09/17/2013 3:33:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Morgana; FatherofFive
In all my years of being Catholic I have never heard of anyone dying from drinking Holy Water.

Years ago it was common practice to keep a candle and Holy water in the house in case someone needed last rites. You would meet the priest at the door with these and he would perform the sacrament.

My wife who was about 5 at the time and her brother who was around 8 found the container and dared each other to taste it. I am certain you can guess the rest.

23 posted on 09/17/2013 5:22:21 PM PDT by verga (Lasciante ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.)
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To: verga

Like I said, never heard of a death!


24 posted on 09/17/2013 5:24:01 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
simple blessed water no, the stuff you dip your fingers however in is something different all together...
25 posted on 09/17/2013 5:37:33 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: NYer

EEEWWWW


26 posted on 09/17/2013 6:25:11 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: NYer

Unclear on the concept. That is NOT what you are supposed to do with the water. Must be all of their 3rd world immigrants.


27 posted on 09/17/2013 6:41:04 PM PDT by La Lydia
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With a bit of vodka, a dirty martini


28 posted on 09/17/2013 10:20:06 PM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: Morgana
It just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

Brain-eating" amoeba found in St. Bernard Parish water supply following death

29 posted on 09/17/2013 10:29:47 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Morgana

Never mind me!! Its way past my bed time.

Nite all.


30 posted on 09/17/2013 10:32:36 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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I've got to defend NYer on the "lol". The article didn't say anybody had gotten sick. Not one. Not anywhere. Not ever. They only said that of the billion people who bless themselves with holy water, somebody "could" theoretically get sick if they drank it.

Since it is not Catholic practice to drink holy water, they are issuing a pseudo-news-report expressing pseudo-concern over a pseudo-problem.

It's like "Public alert! Beware, hearing aid batteries! NOT to be taken internally!"

31 posted on 09/18/2013 8:39:22 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." - Groucho Marx)
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To: elkfersupper

Thank God.


32 posted on 09/18/2013 10:02:49 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I've got to defend NYer on the "lol".

Of course you have to. You're friends. That's known as an ad-hominem response. First it's nobody drinks it or baptismal font. Then it's yeah some people do drink holy water and baptismal font. Then it's nobody gets sick or dies from it. Then it's some people got sick but it's probably not from that. Then it's some people died but they were going to die anyway so let's all have a BIG lol.

33 posted on 09/18/2013 11:53:01 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob; NYer
"Then it's some people died but they were going to die anyway so let's all have a BIG lol."

First: Tsk. You made that one up. Big BOOOOO---ooooo.

Second: defending someone's post by name is not ad hominem. Ad hominem means attacking, not the proposition being disputed, but the character or personal distinctives of some individual associated with the dispute. This I did not do.

Third, Catholics do not drink holy water at all; Orthodox do not drink holy water from a baptismal font, but fill their bottles from a covered canister or tank that has a faucet or stoup.

Next up:

Danger!

You may keel over from aflatoxins

from eating floral arrangements

at Mary shrines!!


34 posted on 09/18/2013 12:09:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Just before a funeral, I would take the top off the big container of holy water, and take the top off the aspergillium, and dunk it in to fill it. My deacon told me not to do that, because lots of people drink Holy Water. It's the only time in my life I've ever heard of people drinking Holy Water. I still agree with you that it's NOT a Catholic practice--even if people do it.
35 posted on 09/20/2013 7:21:26 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: NYer

If it’s a serif font it’s all right.


36 posted on 09/20/2013 7:23:32 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Arthur McGowan
Oh my goodness. They take the top off the tank and stick their faces in? Or they put their mouths on the spigot? Or... what DO they do? Surely not suck holy water out of the aspergillium?!

I'll tell you one thing. I'm older than you are, Arthur, and I have never seen any of this done. You sure these people aren't into the ol' vodou?

37 posted on 09/20/2013 7:36:01 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God." -- -1 John 4:7)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hwe said they put in a little bottle (from the spigot on the tank) and take it home and drink it.


38 posted on 09/20/2013 8:56:41 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: NYer

we’ll what do you expect, many people don’t wash their hands after they sneeze in them, blow their noses and don’t wash and don’t wash when they go to the restroom...so hands are full of germs and when you have hundreds of people putting their hands in a small amount of water there are sure to be plenty of germs. It’s one of the reasons why I try to get a little drop on a finger to bless myself...


39 posted on 09/22/2013 5:37:18 PM PDT by Coleus
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