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Church Members Mistreat Homeless Man in Church ~
ireporterstv.com ^ | September 16 2013 | Efe Tega

Posted on 09/18/2013 7:05:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer

Church Members Mistreat Homeless Man in Church Unaware It Is Their Pastor in Disguise

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: bible; christian; church; congregation; farce; hoax; urbanlegend
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Pastor Jeremiah Steepek transformed himself into a homeless person and went to the 10,000 member church that he was to be introduced as the head pastor at that morning.

He walked around his soon to be church for 30 minutes while it was filling with people for service, only 3 people out of the 7-10,000 people said hello to him.

He asked people for change to buy food – no one in the church gave him change.

He went into the sanctuary to sit down in the front of the church and was asked by the ushers if he would please sit in the back.

1 posted on 09/18/2013 7:05:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer
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To: SkyDancer

What brought tears to my eyes when reading this was when after he was introduced he quoted scripture about homeless, hungry, etc.


2 posted on 09/18/2013 7:07:14 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: SkyDancer

I think the welfare state is God punishing His People for being selfish.


3 posted on 09/18/2013 7:07:50 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SkyDancer

When I saw that this church is in Austin-—a hot spot of liberals, I could believe it more easily.

Liberals do a lot of talking...........


4 posted on 09/18/2013 7:10:12 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: DManA

Seems maybe an apology might be in order. I posted this without fully vetting the story. Seems it’s been around a while in different versions. It just hit me as a tragic incident and I ran with it without thinking. Again, shoulda ........


5 posted on 09/18/2013 7:10:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: SkyDancer

Too many have become suspicious and skeptical of anyone needing help. The government programs have removed our weekly (or even daily) contact with those who are in need. Too often we rely on the government programs to handle ‘those people’. More’s the shame


6 posted on 09/18/2013 7:11:30 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: DManA

Oh I think the welfare state is the CAUSE of people becoming greedy and falling away from God


7 posted on 09/18/2013 7:12:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: SkyDancer

bookmark


8 posted on 09/18/2013 7:12:27 PM PDT by mcshot (The takers exceed the makers and we're going down.)
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To: SkyDancer

I stand by my post. We were a nation of Christians and we did not live up to our expectations.


9 posted on 09/18/2013 7:13:31 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SkyDancer

This is a hoax according to snopes.com
http://www.snopes.com/glurge/homelesspastor.asp

Not sure if it actually happened.


10 posted on 09/18/2013 7:13:41 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: SkyDancer

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:34-46&version=KJV

Matthew 25:34-46 King James Version (KJV)

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


11 posted on 09/18/2013 7:15:11 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Nifster

We disagree. People were suffering and Christians stood by. This opened the door to the enemy.


12 posted on 09/18/2013 7:16:29 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Bayard

Please read further down in the thread where I apologized for posting before vetting the story.


13 posted on 09/18/2013 7:17:03 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Bayard

Snopes is an Obama-apology site run by California liberals.

But this story, I don’t know.

But I won’t check anything against Snopes.


14 posted on 09/18/2013 7:17:58 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: SkyDancer

Again? someone needs to snope this.


15 posted on 09/18/2013 7:19:15 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: SkyDancer

It had been suggested this may not be ‘true’ etc...

BUT
Saw a car with a “honk if you Love Jesus” bumper sticker, so went by ‘tooted’ threw up a hand with a wave and the driver returned the gesture...
EXCEPT
Where I extend the open palm 5 fingered wave, he returned the 1 finger salute....

Go figure...


16 posted on 09/18/2013 7:19:57 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: SkyDancer

THIS DIDN’T HAPPEN. It’s a hoax.

I have seen it posted on Facebook and other places, people seem to want to believe that Christians are hypocrites and so jump all over this story and want to share it.
But it didn’t happen.


17 posted on 09/18/2013 7:19:58 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just wanted to say I hope you great NSA folks are enjoying my posts here.)
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To: DManA

The US is one of the most generous places on earth. As individuals and institutions we give more (direct and indirect) than any other nation on earth. The welfare state started during the FDR years and has drug down citizens ever since. People quit giving because they saw the government doing. That is the causality


18 posted on 09/18/2013 7:20:38 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I apologize (see further down in thread) I posted the article before properly vetting the story.


19 posted on 09/18/2013 7:21:09 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Drango

It is a repeat of the same story different versions. I apologize (see further down in thread) I posted the article before properly vetting the story.


20 posted on 09/18/2013 7:22:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Drango

Somebody needs to snope snopes.


21 posted on 09/18/2013 7:22:37 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Nifster

Go back 100 years. To the this all stared.


22 posted on 09/18/2013 7:23:57 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SkyDancer

Uh-oh! Will they ever get a semon on that now!


23 posted on 09/18/2013 7:27:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SkyDancer

You’re not the first....


24 posted on 09/18/2013 7:27:34 PM PDT by Frapster (Clear the mechanism)
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To: F15Eagle

I agree snopes has gross bias. Frankly, it is just a liberal mouthpiece.

Nonetheless, the story has questions attached to it. Not sure what to think about it, nice story? Did it happen?


25 posted on 09/18/2013 7:28:14 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: SkyDancer

We don’t allow folks to come in and panhandle our members on Sunday morning. And anyone who doesn’t understand that needs to get out of their suburban cocoon and meet some real urban panhandlers. Hungry? We’ll direct you to food. Need shelter, the same. Want money? Come in Monday morning and fill out an application.


26 posted on 09/18/2013 7:29:46 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: DManA

your fingers out paced your brain on that post......


27 posted on 09/18/2013 7:29:59 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Yes-—Welfare-—it destroys Charity always.

Solzhenitsyn stated in his 78 Harvard Commencement address-—as he quoted a Russian mathematician who wrote a book on “Socialism” who stated....”....even a little bit of socialism, rots the soul”.

The conditioning which occurs with government programs, always removes the responsibility from God and oneself in the minds of the people, and then the State becomes god and makes the masses believe that there really is no God, but the State. Welfare is Communism/Socialism— it always erases God/morality from the minds of children/people.


28 posted on 09/18/2013 7:30:57 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Frapster
Ya, my penance will be to sit here all day and night with:

"I apologize (see further down in thread) I posted the article before properly vetting the story."

copied under CTRL V to post to everyone who caught it.

29 posted on 09/18/2013 7:31:37 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Nifster

Perhaps. Care to comment on the substance?


30 posted on 09/18/2013 7:31:49 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Bayard

I’m sure it could happen.

Scripture is unwelcome in a lot of churches these days.

And more than a few have little sympathy. I know personally; have experience with more than a couple.


31 posted on 09/18/2013 7:31:56 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: DManA

some people are poor because of thingsbeyond their cointrol.

some are poor because they won’t work.

some of the most selfish people are poor.

money may make it easier for some to be an ass others, but being poor makes it easier for some to feel entitled to others’ stuff.


32 posted on 09/18/2013 7:31:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SkyDancer

Luke 6:20-26

New King James Version (NKJV)

The Beatitudes

20 Then He lifted up His eyes toward His disciples, and said:

“Blessed are you poor,
    For yours is the kingdom of God.
21 Blessed are you who hunger now,
    For you shall be filled.
Blessed are you who weep now,
    For you shall laugh.
22 Blessed are you when men hate you,
    And when they exclude you,
    And revile you, and cast out your name as evil,
    For the Son of Man’s sake.
23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy!
    For indeed your reward is great in heaven,
    For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.

Jesus Pronounces Woes

24 “But woe to you who are rich,
    For you have received your consolation.
25 Woe to you who are full,
    For you shall hunger.
Woe to you who laugh now,
    For you shall mourn and weep.
26 Woe to you[a] when all[b] men speak well of you,
    For so did their fathers to the false prophets.

Footnotes:

  1. Luke 6:26 NU-Text and M-Text omit to you.
  2. Luke 6:26 M-Text omits all.

33 posted on 09/18/2013 7:33:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Bayard

You beat me to it. This specific story is bogus. However when I researched it months ago I found that a similar story actually did occur wit similar results.


34 posted on 09/18/2013 7:35:28 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Secret Agent Man

God give us bounty. God wants us to share our bounty. If we don’t He takes it away from us.

Why would you finance someone who isn’t giving you a return?


35 posted on 09/18/2013 7:35:33 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Secret Agent Man

Jesus said the poor will always be with us. It is a challenge. You bet.


36 posted on 09/18/2013 7:38:12 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

maybe you’ve missed the trillions of dollars taken from us to give to the richest poor in the world.

maybe you forget that evey year private donations to the poor are the most from the usa, greatly surpassing any other nation on earth.

maybe that when there’s a problem anywhere else in the world we’re there with bodies and aid of all kinds.

maybe forgeting that american poor live at a level others in the world would dream to rise up to.

and this is from a person who was poor at times, lower middle class the rest, all the way growing up.


37 posted on 09/18/2013 7:38:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DManA

it’s not always a monetary return, he’s looking for us to share the good news with others.


38 posted on 09/18/2013 7:40:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SkyDancer

No problem. Most of us have probably seen examples of us imperfect people who are Christians; partially behaving this way!


39 posted on 09/18/2013 7:40:57 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just wanted to say I hope you great NSA folks are enjoying my posts here.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Luke 14:13-14 ESV / 146 helpful votes

But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. For you will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”


40 posted on 09/18/2013 7:41:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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http://www.openbible.info/topics/helping_the_homeless


41 posted on 09/18/2013 7:42:23 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: DManA

if a man won’t work, don’t give him anything to eat.

not all the poor are elpless widows.

God wants us to give to thegenuinely needy, noit the ungrateful nd lazy and those that covet and steal. in socialist america today we have an abudance of takers and ‘entitled’ ungrateful masses that believe they have a right to your stuff.


42 posted on 09/18/2013 7:44:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SkyDancer

Saw it happen before in my own church many years ago as a child. Reason why I don’t attend anymore. Read the Bible, listen to few services on the radio, give what I can to charity, but as far going to any service in person, never again.


43 posted on 09/18/2013 7:44:34 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: DManA

Your comment did not address my argument that Americans are still the most generous and giving people in the world. One hundred years ago the US was a largely agrarian place The cities were more industrial. That said, the US then had church going people who were generous and took care of their own. As public education took over and the government got bigger it led to people turning away from their natural faith based resources.

My original comment is accurate and factually based. The desire of government is to grow ever larger. To do that the government (and those in it) want churches and their influences to diminish. Today the US is not a church going society (on the whole). It none the less is a giving and generous place.


44 posted on 09/18/2013 7:45:39 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: F15Eagle

and i am saying not all the ‘poor’ in this country are genuinely poor. many are sponges content to live of the sweat of the labor of others. if they can work but choose not to, let them not eat.

what we call poor today in this country are what almost everyone else in the world aspires to attain.


45 posted on 09/18/2013 7:46:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Dallas59

I understand. Don’t let that keep you from attending some services somewhere. When I was in Texas earlier this year, I attended about 3 different churches over the time.


46 posted on 09/18/2013 7:48:23 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Secret Agent Man

All of this is a challenge to our faith. Why does God let this go on.

I guess we just have to have faith that God is in charge and knows what He’s doing and it will all be obvious some day.


47 posted on 09/18/2013 7:48:34 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Perhaps the column by Bill Bennett will help

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/15/opinion/bennett-generosity/index.html


48 posted on 09/18/2013 7:49:08 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

yes, churches did take care of their own. but that of course meant you actually went to a church.


49 posted on 09/18/2013 7:50:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SkyDancer

It may be more like a parable than a true story, but the message is still good.


50 posted on 09/18/2013 7:51:49 PM PDT by uptowngirl
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