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"This Is How It Is" In Mega-Interview, Francis Lowers the Boom. Again
Whispers in the Loggia ^ | September 19, 2013 | Rocco Palmo

Posted on 09/19/2013 1:04:30 PM PDT by NYer

Another day... another gift from above – or, at least, Room 201 at the Domus.

Early on in this pontificate, a caller to the editorial offices of Civiltà Cattolica – the authoritative Italian Jesuit journal vetted by the Holy See before it goes to press – asked to speak with the journal's editor, Fr Antonio Spadaro.

Spadaro was out, but the Pope tracked him down on his mobile. And now, the priest-scribe – above, with his confrere – has landed a coup for the ages: a 10,000-word interview with Francis published this morning by the 16 journals overseen by the Society of Jesus around the world.

Beyond being merely conspicuous, the timing of the latest bombshell from the wildly candid Jesuit Pope effectively signals the start of Francis' full-bore dive into matters of governance and the church's internal life, which will kick into top gear with Papa Bergoglio's inaugural meeting with his hand-picked "Super 8" commission of cardinal-advisers, scheduled for 1-3 October.

Touching on issues ranging from sin, sexuality, the Curia and the pre-Conciliar liturgy to family, politics, books and film, the English rendering of the conversation is available via the UK's Thinking Faith and the US' America magazine. On its release today, Spadaro called the encounter "one of the most beautiful spiritual experiences of my life." 


Francis approved the original Italian text of the interview before its translation in the relevant languages.

As the story begins to blow up the news-cycle, you will want to read the full text. Repeat: you will want to read the full text, so have at it.  



TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: jesuit; pope
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1 posted on 09/19/2013 1:04:30 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
you will want to read the full text

The media are already spinning his words.

2 posted on 09/19/2013 1:05:23 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Mark for later.


3 posted on 09/19/2013 1:08:00 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NYer
Not so sure any spin is needed this time.

Fisheaters Thread

4 posted on 09/19/2013 1:11:16 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: NYer

Anyone with the stomach for it needs to glance at the comments in the NYT article.

All the worst types are attracted to this pope — and NOT because they want to be converted or desire absolution for their sins. They think they’re getting ENCOURAGEMENT from this pope!

Even if the pope didn’t intend that sort of reaction (I’m sure he didn’t), this is a SERIOUS PROBLEM!


5 posted on 09/19/2013 1:18:15 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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Beyond being merely conspicuous, the timing of the latest bombshell from the wildly candid Jesuit Pope effectively signals the start of Francis' full-bore dive into matters of governance and the church's internal life, which will kick into top gear with Papa Bergoglio's inaugural meeting with his hand-picked "Super 8" commission of cardinal-advisers, scheduled for 1-3 October.

Ahead of the scheduled conference, I hear the commission has already attracted some protesters.


6 posted on 09/19/2013 1:19:30 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: steve86
All the worst types are attracted to this pope

Luke 19:1-10 - "For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save what was lost."

Mark 2:15-17 - "Those who are well do not need a physician, but the sick do."

Matthew 9:10-13 - "I did not come to call the righteous but sinners.”

7 posted on 09/19/2013 1:45:13 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

bkmk


8 posted on 09/19/2013 1:50:16 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: NYer; Mrs. Don-o

NYer, I’m reading the text of an interview here:

http://www.americamagazine.org/pope-interview

“A Big Heart Open to God” and I can’t remember which thread it was on. Is it this thread or another/?? I’m more disorganized than ever.

I loved this sentence (still reading through):

“I am a sinner whom the Lord has looked upon.”

Reminds me of a statement in the Vedic tradition, how a surrender soul or saintly person thinks of himself:

“I am a poor sinful fool, who has taken shelter of God.”


9 posted on 09/19/2013 2:11:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: steve86

Thanks for the link.

Although I gave up after reading the second post (to confusing on who they are posting to, etc.). Those other sites remind me how great the format of FR is!


10 posted on 09/19/2013 2:13:57 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: little jeremiah

Pope Francis often says he’s a sinner, and even gives examples. He seems to want people to stop thinking, “I’m good compared to ... ,” and look at themselves honestly in light of the Gospel.


11 posted on 09/19/2013 2:16:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Think of Christ's suffering.)
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To: little jeremiah; Mrs. Don-o
“I am a sinner whom the Lord has looked upon.” Reminds me of a statement in the Vedic tradition, how a surrender soul or saintly person thinks of himself:

Actually it reminds you of what I posted in comment #7.

12 posted on 09/19/2013 2:25:24 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Adveniat ad alteri Dei .


13 posted on 09/19/2013 2:52:34 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Tax-chick
Pope Francis often says he’s a sinner, and even gives examples. He seems to want people to stop thinking, “I’m good compared to ... ,” and look at themselves honestly in light of the Gospel.

Excellent point! Thank you for the post and ping.

14 posted on 09/19/2013 3:01:14 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

They definitely need a spiritual physician but that isn’t what they’re seeking. Approval is what they’re seeking and what they think they’re getting.


15 posted on 09/19/2013 3:03:35 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: 21twelve

Too bad you gave up so quick. I really don’t have any trouble understanding the format over there.


16 posted on 09/19/2013 3:05:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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Thank you both. I really, really like this Pope!

I wish I knew what thread I had looked at originally.


17 posted on 09/19/2013 3:07:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: NYer

Reminds me of both...

:-)


18 posted on 09/19/2013 3:08:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: NYer

they have been doing so since he took the seat. I’ve read this and for this simple man (me), I see him addressing charity and acting charitably, not tolerance of the sin(s).


19 posted on 09/19/2013 3:11:15 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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A physician will tell you about your illness, or tell you to eat less and move more. The Pope tells people, “Hey, I’m fat too! And I get short of breath too! Isn’t it wonderful God made us like this!”

At a bare minimum, he is almost daily saying things that make it easy to ‘misconstrue’ him and take comfort in our sinfulness. When the Methodists say things like this, FRers oppose them. When the new Pope says things like this, the Catholic apologists here and on NRO claim others don’t understand him - in which case I can only conclude you have an idiot for a Pope.


20 posted on 09/19/2013 3:21:51 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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