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1 posted on 09/20/2013 3:30:31 AM PDT by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 09/20/2013 3:30:58 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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Help......I am VERY conflicted about his remarks about the gays, abortions,contraception and women having more power in the Church...VERY conflicted.

I think we have 55 MILLION DEAD BABIES, practically every female on contraception and GAY EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE because the Church has NOT stood against these things strongly enough and shown the people that these are NOT GOD'S WAY!!

3 posted on 09/20/2013 3:36:45 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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I’m so done with this Pope. We could always depend on the Catholic. Church to defend the Sanctity of life. Now it’s considered small minded. He can welcome his new flock if he chooses — I’m out. Sadly.


6 posted on 09/20/2013 4:02:50 AM PDT by jersey117
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Stop reading quotes and read the entire interview in context.

Here: http://www.americamagazine.org/pope-interview

Jesus didn’t tell Mathew he was a sinner, but loved him - that’s what drew him to want to follow and subsequently repent. That’s all the pope is saying Catholics should be doing - draw them to Christ’s love and the mercy he will give them...and they will come to understand and change.


9 posted on 09/20/2013 4:18:33 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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One of the most important and revealing aspects of this interview was pope Francis’ description of how he prays. He is truly a humble, great man of prayer!

In this world of internet technology, there is little excuse for being “confused” by what he says.

People honestly need to read ALL of what he says. To really know how the man thinks, read what he has written years before. There are some translations available. Fortunately, I am able to read his writings in Spanish and I fully believe that this man has been prepared (by God) for a long time to be Pope at this particular juncture of history.

In many ways for me...he mirrors Jesus.

Let us all pray daily that God bless and protect him and prepare him for the great sacrifices that he will make.


12 posted on 09/20/2013 5:17:28 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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I wonder if any young, poorly catechised Catholic women who are considering abortion, will use the Pope’s confusing statements (and the media’s celebration) to assuage their troubled conscience as they go ahead and kill their baby.


14 posted on 09/20/2013 5:25:22 AM PDT by Never on my watch (GALT)
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Now I know my dad was right in saying the catholic church will bring in the false prophet! Wonder why Benedict had to resign to bring in a possible apostate? What does abortion, homosexual marriage, and other social issues have to do with faith? If we can just get rid of our orthodox beliefs, we can bring in an era of world harmony. We now have a possible antichrist and false prophet, but where is the beast?


16 posted on 09/20/2013 5:39:52 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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I love this man’s obsession with Jesus and His Gospel, and his sincere humility. First Pope I’ve really resonated with in a long, long time.


19 posted on 09/20/2013 6:01:51 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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I am truly troubled that the Pope feels the church needs to change its focus on gays and abortion "or the Church might fall like a house of cards,.......if it doesn't balance its divisive rules!"

What does he mean by that?

Further into the article, "the Church, has locked itself up in small minded rules," as well as his quote two months ago when asked about gay priests, "Who am I to judge?"

He's absolutely right on that one, he isn't The One who judges but does he think active homosexuals have any place in the Church he was placed in charge of?

Whew, my head is spinning here!

29 posted on 09/20/2013 6:52:45 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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You missed other choice quotes.

He goes on and on about how he is amazed how many complaints Rome gets about orthodoxy!!

He will have to answer to God when he dies!

If the head of Planned Parenthood or NARAL or some other pro-abortion group made pro-abortion comments, no one would notice. But when the Pope dramatically softens the Church’s condemnation of abortion, the whole world notices. Never before did we have a Pope who minimized the sin of murder!

And yes, I have looked at the actual interview, not just what was reported by the media. In this case, the media, if anything, was understating the story. There was no media bias here, and I am tired of Catholics always condemning the media but never condemning the Pope.

How many babies will dies now due to Catholics being silent on abortion?

Give me Alexander VI as Pope with drunken orgies or whatever he did. I would rather have that than pro-lifers stabbed in the back, or unborn babies stabbed in the back of their necks.


44 posted on 09/20/2013 10:42:32 AM PDT by LovedSinner
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