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To: NYer
Help......I am VERY conflicted about his remarks about the gays, abortions,contraception and women having more power in the Church...VERY conflicted.

I think we have 55 MILLION DEAD BABIES, practically every female on contraception and GAY EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE because the Church has NOT stood against these things strongly enough and shown the people that these are NOT GOD'S WAY!!

3 posted on 09/20/2013 3:36:45 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

While I am not very comfortable in trying to interpret his words I think the Pope is trying to say we need to introduce people to God first. A true meeting of Christ ought to be enough for people to want to turn from their sin. Sometimes a preoccupation with specific sin/sinners seems to undermine, in people’s minds, the story of God’s salvific capacity to change people!


4 posted on 09/20/2013 3:50:31 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Ann Archy

Just my view, but contraception is not an evil as is abortion. It was banned by church doctrine, but I believe that “the Pill” or condoms are not any more evil than the rhythm method of contraception.

As to gays, they need salvation too.


7 posted on 09/20/2013 4:03:09 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Ann Archy

His Holiness said: “it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time”. Because without conversion to the Catholic Church you cannot expect to fix the society, and the conversion has to be for Christ, not merely against our legal system, awful that it is.


22 posted on 09/20/2013 6:12:13 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Ann Archy

Catholics were the only ones that stood up for life after Roe v. Wade. It’s good to see that after 40 years other Christian faiths are with us. 40 Days for Life was started by a Catholic. Catholic orphanages have closed down because they refuse to place children with same-sex couples. Catholics have spoken loud and clear about the evils of unnatural marriage. It is the media that is obsessed with it, and will not report anything other than positive stories from liberals. Catholics are ignored in the media, unless there is some type of scandal involved.


37 posted on 09/20/2013 8:33:43 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Ann Archy
Help......I am VERY conflicted about his remarks about the gays, abortions,contraception and women having more power in the Church...VERY conflicted.

Yeah, I am, too.

As long as this statement stands:

"but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time"

I will continue wondering if St. Malachy was right.

In addition, when many priests hear "don't talk about them all the time", it will be interpreted as "never talk about them" (which many don't anyway).

50 posted on 09/20/2013 1:25:18 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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