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The Liberal Pope
Religion News Service ^ | Sep 20, 2013 | Mark Silk

Posted on 09/20/2013 9:52:07 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
In reality, the Gospel has never been a sales pitch at all. Pastors may plant, others may water, but it is God who brings the increase, and therefore we need do nothing except speak the truth in all its glory, and let the Holy Spirit do the rest.

Thanks, I'm sure that the cicar of Christ on Earth will appreciate your assistance. If I get to make the choice between your interpretation of scripture, and that of the Pope.......I think i'll go with........ready for the answer.........THE POPE!!!!!!!

21 posted on 09/20/2013 9:18:11 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: terycarl

“Thanks, I’m sure that the cicar of Christ on Earth will appreciate your assistance. If I get to make the choice between your interpretation of scripture, and that of the Pope.......I think i’ll go with........ready for the answer.........THE POPE!!!!!!!”


Well, hopefully when you fall down the ditch, he’ll be there to break your fall!


22 posted on 09/20/2013 9:22:33 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: terycarl

cicar VICAR


23 posted on 09/20/2013 9:26:02 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Alex Murphy

The author and everyone else needs to read the entire interview.

http://www.americamagazine.org/pope-interview
Complete text


24 posted on 09/20/2013 9:27:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: driftdiver

Do you really believe the lamestream media. Read the entire interview, please.

That was not what Pope Francis said.


25 posted on 09/20/2013 9:29:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Well, hopefully when you fall down the ditch, he’ll be there to break your fall!

the Catholic church is infallible in matters of faith and morals...Christ promised to be with her until the end of time....I'll take my chances and try my best not to reject Christ as so many others have done.

26 posted on 09/20/2013 9:29:42 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: informavoracious
He can't change the Catechism, which teaches that abortion, contraception, and homosexuality are great sins and gravely disordered. If he starts changing dogma, it's all over. Can't he see what has happened to denominations that have gone ultra-lib? We are supposed to be IN the world but not OF it.,/I. ,P. he can't, and won't, change any tenet of the catholic Church. His statements on abortion, contraception and homosexuality merely point out the fact that we can be distracted by these things and ignore other, equally or more important topics than they are. These problems will resolve themselves and the Catholic Church, having been here for 2,013 years is very very very patient.
27 posted on 09/20/2013 9:37:49 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: terycarl
the Catholic church is infallible in matters of faith and morals

Nonsense, it's run by fallible humans.

28 posted on 09/20/2013 9:40:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

People very often get two words mixed up here.

Infallible —

and Impeccable.

We are all impeccable....we can all make a mistake.

Through the Holy Spirit, much prayer, determination, proof, etc. a doctrine or dogma is pronounced infalliable — note the entrance of the Holy Spirit in this process.


29 posted on 09/20/2013 9:42:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: terycarl

“I’ll take my chances”


Too bad all you have is the “chance.” I’ve got the confidence of the Word of God. Much superior to the gamble of letting filthy old liberals and idolaters do your thinking for you.


30 posted on 09/20/2013 9:42:58 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: GeronL
"Nonsense, it's run by fallible humans.'

In other words, your assertion could be wrong ;-)

31 posted on 09/20/2013 9:43:16 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I don’t have a Pope.

I have a relationship with Jesus/God.

There is no bureaucracy between us.


32 posted on 09/20/2013 9:45:06 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
Nonsense, it's run by fallible humans.

oh, the popes are fallible allright, but Christ promised that in matters of faith and morals, they would never teach in error.....does that mean that they could not sin on their own...of course not, but in matters pertaining to official teachings, they would be protected from error.

so far it has worked just fine!!!!

33 posted on 09/20/2013 10:11:30 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: terycarl

Christ never said the Catholic Church or Pope would never be in error. Nor would I believe for a second that they never have been in error before.


34 posted on 09/20/2013 10:13:59 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I’ve got the confidence of the Word of God.

and the word of God that you cherish so much came from the bible and the bible was happily presented to you by...........guess who..........THE CATHOLIC CHURCH...at least say thanks!

35 posted on 09/20/2013 10:15:41 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: GeronL
Christ never said the Catholic Church or Pope would never be in error. Nor would I believe for a second that they never have been in error before

whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.......do you think that He would allow the Catholic Church to bind something in error that He would also have to bind in heaven????

if you can find an error that any Pope has ever made in official church teachings (not behavior) then you would be the first person in history to do so......millions have tried!!

36 posted on 09/20/2013 10:21:09 PM PDT by terycarl
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“and the word of God that you cherish so much came from the bible and the bible was happily presented to you by...........guess who..........THE CATHOLIC CHURCH...at least say thanks!”


Why would I thank Babylon for something the Apostles wrote, by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost? You stick with your dead idols and what you know, and I’ll stick with the scriptures.


37 posted on 09/20/2013 10:51:18 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Why would I thank Babylon for something the Apostles wrote, by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost? You stick with your dead idols and what you know, and I’ll stick with the scriptures

of course they were written by the evangalists and the apostles, of course they were inspired by the Holy Spirit.....that was 2,000 years ago. How do you think that you have access to something written by a handfull of people in an obscure part of the middle east??? The early believers and followers of Christ were the beginnings of Catholicism and it is those people who recorded the writings, edited them, transcribed them, hand copied them in Catholic monastaries for 2,000 years....Virtually noone had a copy of the bible until modern times....first of all they couldn't afford it, secondly the VAST majority of them couldn,t read it. Throught the ages, Catholics preserved the holy books and writings, translated them into every language on earth, and thanks to the printing press, you can have your own copy.......say THANKS CATHOLICS!!!!!

38 posted on 09/21/2013 4:29:41 PM PDT by terycarl
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“of course they were written by the evangalists and the apostles, of course they were inspired by the Holy Spirit.....that was 2,000 years ago. How do you think that you have access to something written by a handfull of people in an obscure part of the middle east??? “


Certainly it had nothing to do with Rome. Even in the 4th century, you guys considered the epistle to the Hebrews to be a fraudulent work, since you were too incompetent to answer the heretics who abused it. The Greek churches also put out Revelation, for similar reasons.

Luckily God is in control and not fallible men, and thank God again that the Papists don’t have any of the history or tradition that they fantasize to have.


39 posted on 09/21/2013 4:41:12 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: terycarl

“Virtually noone had a copy of the bible until modern times....first of all they couldn’t afford it, secondly the VAST majority of them couldn,t read it. “


I forgot to reply to this, but this is very ignorant. Even Polycarp, in his letter to the churches, not only quotes the scriptures heavily, but even speaks of the scriptures as something that they owned and were well versed in. Indeed, between Papias, Clement, Ignatius, Polycarp, and Irenaeus, almost every single book in the New Testament was quoted from and taught from. The Christians were a lot more literate than you give them credit for. Maybe believers in Roman Catholicism are mostly illiterate, but people back then weren’t idiots.


40 posted on 09/21/2013 4:43:42 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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