Posted on 09/20/2013 12:24:57 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
Hans Kung: “I was overwhelmed by joy” Leonardo Boff: Francis is “more liberal” than commonly supposed. Unnamed Vatican diplomat: “the Traditional Latin Mass brigade is finished.” Greg Venable: ( told me very clearly that the Ordinariate was quite unnecessary and that the Church needs us as Anglicans.” Cardinal Mahony: “Don’t you feel the new energy, and being shared with one another?”
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
“The interview was given to the Jesuits, a Catholic religious community. I’m sure you are not suggesting the Jesuits are not catholics.”
Was the interview a private one with Jesuits, or translated and meant for public publication? Who was the REAL audience? And how did the REAL audience react?
It is silly to suggest the Pope gave this interview, for public publication around the world, for Jesuits only. The intended audience was the world, and the world reacted predictably. If the Pope didn’t predict the reaction, he is stupid. If he did, then he is damaging the cause of Christianity, and cutting off Christians around the world who are under attack for believing and preaching traditional Christian morality - and the need for repentance.
I’m a baptist, but that means my values are under attack. Real attack. It is increasingly likely that I could lose a job, lose a business or face some other punishment for refusing to say homosexuality is OK. But too many supposedly Christian churches have watered down what it means to convert, and made it a question of feeling good about yourself instead of first rejecting what you are and are going to be unless God invades your life. We see large churches fill the pews with calls to become friends with God, without first recognizing that we are born enemies of God and God-haters.
Frankly, I don’t need what has long been a pretty reliable ally going wobbly, and suggesting evil is...well, not so bad.
The Gospel includes:
“You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bear fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham. Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.”
That isn’t quite the ‘we need to see God in the face next to us’ preaching that marks the ‘seeker churches’ and now the Catholic church. If Christians don’t take sin seriously, why should the world?
If Jesus discussed Hell, shouldn’t we?
The Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in the aforesaid document of 1975 refrained at the time from further action regarding the above-mentioned opinions of Professor Küng, presuming that he himself would abandon them. But since this presumption no longer exists, this sacred congregation by reason of its duty is constrained to declare that Professor Hans Küng, in his writings, has departed from the integral truth of Catholic faith, and therefore he can no longer be considered a Catholic theologian nor function as such in a teaching role.
The rest are no better...
Mr Rogers, as a Catholic, I agree with you. His remarks smack of the nitwit. As remarked in this section also, his real-life experience is in a Perot-dominated Argentina. He did not have to cut his teeth on a Nazi and then Communist dominated society like Pope John Paul II, nor did he have to bear up under the Nazis as did Benedict XVI.
He comes across as nothing more than a pussified Jesuit. As an aside, we had a pro-life conference a couple of years ago here in San Diego, and Father Mitch Pacwa, a Jesuit and an excellent priest, was a speaker. The master of ceremonies introduced him as “Father Mitch Pacwa, a Jesuit AND a practicing Catholic.” The joke was lost on no one, including the good Father.
When announcing his world day of prayer, I thought, “OK, this is very good.” Then I read his remarks preceding this day of prayer. Something to the effect of ‘I want peace, I want it with all my heart!’ And so on ... peace is good, war is bad. Thanks for the insight there, Francis.
Meanwhile, one pronouncement after another of his has to be ‘explained’ after the fact. 1 Corinthians 14:8 “Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?”
From the Eddie Griffin Bible study:
So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air.
I don’t know if you heard about this, but within a few hours of Pope Benedict’s resignation, lightning struck the Vatican twice, and when he went to Castel Gandalfo it was struck by an earthquake.
Video here at about the 8:20 mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmW3WLfbYNM
So maybe, probably, Pope Benedict XVI made a HUGE mistake and now we are saddled with a much-lesser light guiding the Church.
Catholics at all times are to pray for the Pope, as Christians are supposed to pray for their leaders. It’s just that at certain times it is easier than others.
One thing the American bishops have never done is go through the American political system, and delineate clearly: What are the responsibilities of: Legislators, governors, judges, and the President.
In Catholic moral teaching, it is the duty of the governors of all fifty states to NULLIFY edicts from the federal government to allow or finance abortion. Every Catholic governor who allowed the “legalization” of abortion by the Supreme Court should have been denied Communion, and possibly excommunicated. Every Catholic in a state legislature or in Congress who voted pro-abortion, even once, should have been denied Communion immediately, and possibly excommunicated.
After forty years, NO bishop has laid out, in an orderly and comprehensive way, just why the actions of pro-abortion governors and legislators are sinful, and what their duties are.
And then, of course, there are the pro-abortion bishops—Malone, Roach, Bernardin—mercifully all gone.
LOL! Because that’s not what Pope Francis said.
Salvation, dear, did you read the article?
This is the most accurate description of this papacy, and what to expect. I have had this gnawing feeling reading all the blogs and columnists these weeks, but I couldn’t give words to my disquiet. The great George Neumayr has now done this for me.
He did it last March.
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