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Cardinal Burke: Nancy Pelosi ‘Must’ be Denied Communion
Life Site News ^ | 9/20/13 | Patrick B. Craine

Posted on 09/21/2013 6:08:55 AM PDT by marshmallow

LOUISVILLE, KY, Sept. 20, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a wide-ranging interview, Cardinal Raymond Burke has issued an emphatic call for pro-abortion Catholic politicians like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to be denied Communion.

The cardinal also spoke about the rapid advance of the homosexual agenda, the decline in catechesis that, he says, has crippled the Church’s response to pressing moral issues of the day, and the growing danger of Christian persecution under an increasingly “totalitarian” government. Cardinal Raymond Burke

The cardinal, who heads the Vatican’s Apostolic Signatura and is America’s most senior prelate, made the comments in an interview published earlier this month by The Catholic Servant, a Minneapolis-based newspaper, and republished by The Wanderer.

Asked about Pelosi, he said, “Certainly this is a case when Canon 915 must be applied.”

Canon 915 states that those who are “obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”

“This is a person who obstinately, after repeated admonitions, persists in a grave sin — cooperating with the crime of procured abortion — and still professes to be a devout Catholic,” the cardinal said. “I fear for Congresswoman Pelosi if she does not come to understand how gravely in error she is. I invite her to reflect upon the example of St. Thomas More who acted rightly in a similar situation even at the cost of his life.”

The cardinal also urged the faithful to practice “much prayer and fasting” to counter the growing threat of the homosexual agenda.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
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To: Arthur McGowan

Thank you very much for your response. A lot of it I knew (or surmised) but it still doesn’t seem right for the church to just give a pass on these very important matters. I realize I’m just a lowly parishioner, but IMO Rome could very easily take care of the problem even if it meant forcing the bishops and cardinals to do the right thing and I was really hoping Pope Francis would do it! Thanks again for your response. I appreciate it.


41 posted on 09/21/2013 12:13:08 PM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: count-your-change
What happened to Drinan? Not nearly enough! OTOH, he had the effrontery, while a militantly pro-abortion Congresscritter to be part of a receiving line for Blessed John Paul II when the pontiff visited the District of Corruption. When JP II got to Drinan, he pointed a finger in his face and directly ordered him to leave Congress. Drinan obeyed and withdrew as a candidate for re-election. This is what allowed Barney Frank to be elected to that seat.

In better days, Drinan would have been burned at the stake after a prolonged and long overdue, ummmm, inquiry by skilled, ummm. inquirers. Regrettably Drinan, in our sorry and degenerate age, lived another quarter of a century and apparently died a natural death rather than suffering his just deserts at the hands of inquisitors.

42 posted on 09/21/2013 12:44:49 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: marshmallow

This has been a good week.


43 posted on 09/21/2013 12:52:33 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: MinuteGal
--- lack of clarity of the past couple months from a higher level. ---

It makes more sense if you ignore what's outside the quotation marks, in media reports.

44 posted on 09/21/2013 12:54:21 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: MomofMarine

-— Why doesn’t the Vatican excommunicate them and loudly explain why? -—

There is a chain of command, and bishops are given wide latitude in pastoral decisions. Keep in mind that the Vatican has a smaller administrative staff than the University of Notre Dame, and oversees a flock of 1 billion
in almost every country.

This is why we see the Vatican making general, princpled statements, while leaving the particulars to local bishops.

Imagine the games that Pelosi could play if the Vatican became involved. Imagine the headline, “Pelosi receives communion in Texas church. Will the Vatican Respond?” And then this being repeated in countless dioceses around the world.


45 posted on 09/21/2013 1:05:13 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
The Vatican excommunicating an American politician over the head of a US Bishop is the gift rabid anti-Catholics hope for.
46 posted on 09/21/2013 1:17:29 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I see your point. Wish I could just turn off my feelings because every time she publicly receives communion or meets the Pope or gives one of her “I’m a devout Catholic and abortion is fully sanctioned by the church” screeds, it just infuriates me, like Teddy Kennedy’s funeral.


47 posted on 09/21/2013 1:19:35 PM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: BlackElk

So Drinin, the priest who was the abortionists best friend, is ordered to not to run for office? Oh! the pain!

The hypocrisy of the leadership is stunning! Rant and wail about the horrors of abortion and then choke at the prospect of actually doing anything. How is the laity to view this half hearted effort? They practice abortion at about the same rate as non-Catholics.


48 posted on 09/21/2013 1:27:24 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: MomofMarine

Yeah, it makes me insane too. Wouldn’t want to be in their shoes for anything.


49 posted on 09/21/2013 1:53:19 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: count-your-change

Only her Bishop can do this officially and we do not know that he has not. Interdict letters are private and only the recipient could make it public. This is done so that the sinner may more easily repent and return to Our Lord.


50 posted on 09/21/2013 3:33:49 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Hardraade

Pelosi sits in her own PU.


51 posted on 09/21/2013 3:43:14 PM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: marshmallow
Listen, I appreciate the concept, but this constant re-interpretation of what JP II said, or Benedict said, or what Burke said, is wrongheaded and foolish.

Excommunication of an obstinate and persistent heretic, or in the case of Pelosi a heresiarch, is both a public act and a public obligation. This nonsense that "she's excommunicated herself" allows her heresy to thrive and to multiply.

Many Catholics, my dear late grandfather among them, have been publicly excommunicated by the relevant authority, in his case by the Bishop of Hartford.

The Archbishop of San Francisco is in this case the relevant authority. Every time this lying spawn of Satan opens her mouth and says she is a "faithful and devout Catholic", or that "abortion is sacred ground" he should be having a press conference, announcing that she has been excommunicated and that her lies threaten her soul with the pit, as well as the souls of any Catholics who vote for her, who fellowship with her, or who "follow" her heresies and thereby conform their consciences to evil.

52 posted on 09/21/2013 3:54:00 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Hardraade

“Pelosi shouldn’t be allowed within a mile of any Church.”

She should be allowed to attend. The church is for sinners not saints. She should not be allowed to mock the church.


53 posted on 09/21/2013 3:54:52 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Jim Noble

A distinction should be made.

Excommunication is a “penalty.” There are certain acts by which a person can “excommunicate himself.” More precisely, there are acts which Canon Law punishes with excommunication “automatically,” such as physically attacking the Pope and direct involvement in a completed abortion.

Denial of Holy Communion, which is mandated by Canon 915, is NOT a penalty. Cardinal Wuerl, among his several misleading statements on the matter, has referred to Denial of Holy Communion as a “penalty.”

What this means, practically, is that Cardinal Wuerl reserves to himself the option of whether to impose this “penalty” on people like Pelosi.

But Wuerl does NOT have this option, because Denial of Holy Communion is MANDATED by divine law, expressed in Canon 915. By refusing to deny Communion to people like Pelosi, who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, Wuerl is himself obstinately persisting in direct disobedience to an UNCONDITIONAL MANDATE in Canon Law.

It is long past time, having corrected Wuerl regarding his persistence in disobedience to Canon Law, and having corrected some of Wuerl’s misleading, evasive statements on the matter, for Cardinal Burke and the Pope to ACT.

It is unfortunate that Cardinal Burke allowed himself to be elevated to the College of Cardinals AT THE VERY SAME MASS with Cardinal Wuerl. The message sent was that Cardinal Burke’s repeated statements on the issue of Canon 915 were merely academic.

It is time for definite, active disciplinary measures against Wuerl and other bishops like him.


54 posted on 09/21/2013 4:37:24 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Hardraade
Pelosi shouldn’t be allowed within a mile of any Church

nonsense...Pelosi and her like are the reason that we need churches. She needs to be in church and LISTEN instead of talking (for a change)

55 posted on 09/21/2013 7:04:15 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: marshmallow
I pre-read this thread through post #55 amd I am amazed that people forget the admoniyion that whoever is without sin should cast the first stone..

I can't stand pesosi nor Biden, but God can not differentiate between their sins and yours. Did you miss Mass on your own volitiion? Do you go to Commuhion to impress your fellow churchgoers, knowing that you haven't been to Confession in years??How about the Hold days of obligation, are you at Mass faithfully as you should be?? Are you absolutely, 100% faithful to your spouse??

I don't think that God picks and chooses which sins He will hate most. While we can see theirs, and they certainly cause scandal to others, we must be careful not to throw too many stones lest our glass house be damaged.

56 posted on 09/21/2013 7:29:55 PM PDT by terycarl
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Dear terycarl,

Actually, I'm not sure you're correct. Four sins cry out to Heaven for vengeance: murder; sodomy; oppressing the widow and the orphan; withholding the worker his wage.


sitetest

57 posted on 09/21/2013 8:50:32 PM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: marshmallow

They should also talk with her also about how she took the words of a sermon she heard in church and twisted them into a vicious partisan attack on her enemies.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3069656/posts


58 posted on 09/22/2013 7:15:13 AM PDT by DManA
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To: MinuteGal

Agreed. Men like the Cardinal could get me back to the church if they would follow through on this. I’m not not saying I’m right about this, just saying what it takes to get me back. I can’t be the only one...


59 posted on 09/22/2013 7:26:58 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: onedoug

You must have met the man - very accurate.

Reminds me of every other slimy politician.


60 posted on 09/22/2013 7:53:55 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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