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Conservatives not happy with Pope Francis.Catholic Caucus

Posted on 09/21/2013 5:54:44 PM PDT by fatima

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1 posted on 09/21/2013 5:54:44 PM PDT by fatima
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To: fatima

I’m happy. Neener neener.


4 posted on 09/21/2013 6:00:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Prioritize!)
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To: fatima

I have no problem with him.


7 posted on 09/21/2013 6:03:52 PM PDT by verga (Lasciante ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.)
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To: Tax-chick

:)


8 posted on 09/21/2013 6:05:31 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: cripplecreek

(((((Hugs)))))


9 posted on 09/21/2013 6:07:13 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: verga

Thank you verga.


10 posted on 09/21/2013 6:08:39 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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liberals love him today but will hate him tomorrow...they all think he’s going to say the church is okay with homosexuality and abortion- never going to happen...

fact that he said Catholics should not judge gays is a good thing- he never said he was accepting of homosexuality;

hate the sin, love the sinner- sound familiar???


12 posted on 09/21/2013 6:14:18 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: little jeremiah

Thank You little jeremiah ((((Hugs))))


13 posted on 09/21/2013 6:16:59 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: God luvs America

:) Thank you God luvs America ((((Hugs))))


14 posted on 09/21/2013 6:19:41 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: GreyFriar

how do you feel.


16 posted on 09/21/2013 6:20:47 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: basil

Really? I thought your religion was Christianity.


17 posted on 09/21/2013 6:22:52 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: basil
Basil ,is he Conservative or not.That is the question.Non-catholic's can not attack you on this forum.
18 posted on 09/21/2013 6:24:23 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: God luvs America

All so well. It always never ceases to amaze me how much liberals seem to hope for a uniform society, when they say pluralistic or diverse so much, doesn’t it?


19 posted on 09/21/2013 6:30:54 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Little Ray
Hi Little Ray,Conservative?
20 posted on 09/21/2013 6:31:05 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: cripplecreek

I reject the contention that “conservatives” must all think the same thing about everyone. That’s fascist.


21 posted on 09/21/2013 6:33:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Prioritize!)
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To: Morpheus2009
How do you vote,Conservative or not.
22 posted on 09/21/2013 6:33:39 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

Conservative


23 posted on 09/21/2013 6:34:52 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Tax-chick

Beep,not in the poll.


24 posted on 09/21/2013 6:35:41 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima
I don't explain a Pope. I don't need to explain a Pope. People who know nothing about the Pope try to explain him to me like five blind guys explaining an elephant.

He has his way of looking at the world, and that's nice. And if the nonbelievers, and those of other faiths, like it, fine. Great.

But he's where he needs to be on doctrine. Everything else is organization and window dressing.

When saying not to obsess about 3 or 4 topics, I responded, "Yeah, he's concerned with A LOT MORE than JUST those. Not that he's NOT concerned with those, or that's he's relaxing anything."

People will take anything they like out of context and say that their definition of the man defines the man. No, Francis will define himself, and he'll do that more and more every day.

Funny, not too many people seem to be in my face about his abortion speech a day after saying we should obsess over it. Go figure.

25 posted on 09/21/2013 6:35:49 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: fatima

Oh, well. I reject polls, too.


26 posted on 09/21/2013 6:36:03 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Prioritize!)
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To: Morpheus2009

Thank you (((Hugs)))


27 posted on 09/21/2013 6:36:46 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Tanniker Smith

Conservative or not.


28 posted on 09/21/2013 6:38:50 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

I was conservative in the 70’s and 80’s. These days I run more towards the “reactionary” end of the spectrum, i.e. “Rush Limbaugh is a squishy moderate.”
I’m kinda tired of some of the stuff I see flying around between different groups of Christians. Kinda silly given the fact that Christianity is under the gun around the world, including here at home in the US.


29 posted on 09/21/2013 6:42:01 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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I suspect what we're seeing is a form of rope-a-dope* on those who will in all likelihood never accept authentic Catholic teaching on homosexuality, abortion, and contraception.

Eventually, and I think very soon, Francis will clarify his statements and they will prove completely consistent with Catholic teaching and not a "wonderful, hopeful change."

For the first time in their unthinking lives these same people, who could barely contain their enthusiasm only yesterday, are going to have to use reason to defend their positions, positions they "felt" their way to rather than having arrived at them by reason.

I suspect almost all will go away sad like the wealthy young man who wouldn't sell all his possessions to follow Christ.

*Okay, that's probably not the right term but I can't think of a feint that suckers the opponent into thinking he's got he's got his opposition on the ropes only to have the tables turned on him.

31 posted on 09/21/2013 6:47:51 PM PDT by Oratam
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+{{{|:o)

Papal Smiley for our Non-Catholic Brethren

32 posted on 09/21/2013 6:49:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." - Groucho Marx)
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To: Little Ray
Little Ray,Can I mark you as the Pope is a Conservative?
33 posted on 09/21/2013 6:50:49 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: MamaB
V,Is the Pope Conservative?
34 posted on 09/21/2013 6:52:48 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Morpheus2009

why would it amaze you?? communists, socialists, nazi’s, liberals, progressives- they all have a masters degree in lying...its a requirement since they have no results to fall back on....


35 posted on 09/21/2013 6:54:31 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Oratam
Put you with Conservative.
36 posted on 09/21/2013 6:56:02 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Conservative or not?


37 posted on 09/21/2013 6:57:13 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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OK, I'll vote conservative...

but I must tell you that it's years since I could use the terms conservative/liberal, or Right/Left, without a conscious sense of irony.

I always list my political principles as "Catholic." If the Pope votes "Catholic" too, that's all I ask.

38 posted on 09/21/2013 6:58:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." - Groucho Marx)
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To: God luvs America

This is a poll stick with the question.


39 posted on 09/21/2013 6:59:09 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I am asking Catholic’s if they think Pope Francis is Conservative.
40 posted on 09/21/2013 7:08:01 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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Happy with poll results but most people think he is in favor of married priest,abortion,and gays.Take your own poll at work or with your friends.No-one answered me on The Red Mass and who will be in line for Communion.
41 posted on 09/21/2013 7:12:19 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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i think your initial post is understandable as many people cherry picked what Pope Francis said and liberals are jumping for joy...fact is the Pope has not deviated from Church doctrine as many are hoping, nor will he...


42 posted on 09/21/2013 7:15:48 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: fatima

Truth is truth... There shouldn’t be any political leanings attributed to any pope.


43 posted on 09/21/2013 7:24:39 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: fatima

Nope.
At this point the Pope defies categorization, nor do I trust any of the information I have read about him. Too often I read of some outrageous statement or policy only to find that words were twisted or distorted.
I’m going to wait a while.


44 posted on 09/21/2013 7:24:49 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: fatima
Thank you verga.

After his election the MSM was amazed to learn he was actually Catholic. He is his own man with his own style. JPII had his style BXVI had his and Francis has his. And they are all Catholic.

45 posted on 09/21/2013 7:31:32 PM PDT by verga (Lasciante ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

How do you vote,conservative or not.


46 posted on 09/21/2013 7:31:56 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Little Ray

:)


47 posted on 09/21/2013 7:32:57 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

The way of the Cross is not subject to polling maneuvers, but appears as folly. To the extent the Pope is faithful the Sacred Scriptures, he will be subject to bad polling results and more. In this he may rejoice.


48 posted on 09/21/2013 7:54:06 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

^to


49 posted on 09/21/2013 7:55:00 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Amen,i take it you vote Conservative.
50 posted on 09/21/2013 7:57:34 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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