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Conservatives not happy with Pope Francis.Catholic Caucus

Posted on 09/21/2013 5:54:44 PM PDT by fatima

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To: fatima

“... this is what I said when they asked me if I would accept my election as pontiff.” Then the pope whispers in Latin: “I am a sinner, but I trust in the infinite mercy and patience of our Lord Jesus Christ, and I accept in a spirit of penance.”

http://www.thinkingfaith.org/articles/20130919_1.htm

I like him.


52 posted on 09/21/2013 8:07:35 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: fatima

In nearly every respect I tend toward conservative in voting, yes. But not all.


53 posted on 09/21/2013 8:23:56 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Domestic Church

Thank You.


54 posted on 09/21/2013 8:30:24 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Fester Chugabrew

OK ((((Hugs))))


55 posted on 09/21/2013 8:31:15 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

Conservative... But don’t care for gop.


56 posted on 09/21/2013 8:44:32 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: fatima

I am conservative and I am happy with him. I think conservatives that are not happy with him are being manipulated by the press. You had to read the whole interview carefully to understand what he actually said, not what the leftists hoped he had said. In a year they will turn on him when they find out nothing has changed in their direction.


57 posted on 09/21/2013 8:57:09 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: HerrBlucher

Amazingly, the flurry and controversy over the interview was blown up the very next morning, as the Holy Father spoke forcefully against ABORTION, asserting that no Catholic physician can engage in performing one.


58 posted on 09/21/2013 9:11:54 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: fatima

Oh ye of little faith. Christ is in charge.


59 posted on 09/21/2013 9:38:53 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: fatima; Tax-chick; verga; God luvs America; Little Ray; Morpheus2009; Tanniker Smith; Oratam; ...
In his Mass April 19th, the Holy Father made this observation:

…They are the ones who walk only “on the path of duty”: theirs is the moralis[tic outlook] of those who pretend to understand the Gospel with their heads alone. They are not “on the road to conversion, that conversion to which Jesus calls us.”

And these, on the road of duty, load everything on the shoulders of the faithful. The ideologues falsify the gospel. Every ideological interpretation, wherever it comes from – from [whatever side] – is a falsification of the Gospel. And these ideologues – as we have seen in the history of the Church – end up being intellectuals without talent, ethicists without goodness – and let us not so much as mention beauty, of which they understand nothing.

"Rather,” said Pope Francis, “the path of love, the way of the Gospel, is simple: it is the road that the Saints understood”:

The saints are those who lead the Church forward! The road of conversion, the way of humility, of love, of the heart, the way of beauty ... Today let us pray to the Lord for the Church: that the Lord might free her from any ideological interpretation and open the heart of the Church, our Mother Church, to the simple Gospel, to that pure Gospel that speaks to us of love, which brings love, and is so beautiful! It also makes us beautiful, with the beauty of holiness. Today let us pray for the Church.

What I've seen go on consistently since his election is that the left has attempted to shoe-horn him into their socialistic, sexually libertine form of pseudo-orthodoxy. They do not know how to listen to the Gospel and let the gospel transform them, they attempt to transform the gospel so that it fits within their narrow ideology.

(As has been mentioned before) Then I see conservatives react with panic to this and either attempt to explain what he says away or write off the Holy Father as actually being the caricature that the socialists have painted.

What concerns me is that I expect, at some point, to see this caricature to begin being referenced inside the (hyper-liberal) US Church. I expect to see some of the more left-leaning bishops to start using NY Times quotes about him as justification for their left-leaning positions; I expect some Marxist priests to use the National Schismatic Fishwrap's analyses as a validation for their liberation theology; I expect a great number of the social justice offices in diocesan chanceries to use his concern for the poor as a rationale for their political support for enslavement of the US population.


In answer to your specific questions:


60 posted on 09/22/2013 2:24:50 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: fatima; jodyel

with my fingers and toes. I was being SARCASTIC in my previous replies because: To me, this is they type of inconsequential type of issue that gets Christians to fight on My opinion vs Your opinion. Does the question relate to Jesus’ message of salvation that he taught: No. And for relevance, shall we return to having arguments about “How many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?” And the related: “Are Angels allowed or even know how to dance?”


61 posted on 09/22/2013 6:14:20 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: HerrBlucher

I hope/pray you are right...
Yesterday I was in a used bookstore in NY, a guy comes in, asks the owner if there’s anything new in erotica, then asks another question to which the owner replied that the book in question would probably get her in trouble with NAMBLA, and finally the conversation ends with something like - Hey how about the Pope and his new direction/openess to gays, I never thought I’d hear erotica, NAMBLA, and the Pope linked in any conversation, it made me ill...
I pray for clarity, from the Vatican, from the USCCB, and from every pulpit...


62 posted on 09/22/2013 6:49:38 AM PDT by HurriKane (You will suffer in the world. But take courage! I have overcome the world.)
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To: fatima

Well Fatima, when someone tells it like it is, and the press twists their words, you may bet people will be unhappy.

I for one am getting tired of the lamestream media twisting Francis’ words more so than any conservative not agreeing with him.


63 posted on 09/22/2013 7:52:38 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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