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Controversy Ignites Over 'Jesus Had Two Dads' Church Sign
Christian Post ^ | 09/20/2013 | Jeff Schapiro

Posted on 09/22/2013 6:01:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A Tennessee pastor says he didn't intend to start a controversy when he put a message on his church's marquee last weekend that said, "Jesus had two dads and he turned out just fine."

Many people have interpreted the message, which refers to God and Joseph, to be a statement about gay and lesbian parents. But Bill Campbell, pastor of St. John's United Methodist Church in Nashville, told CP that wasn't his intention.

"For me it was a very simple statement affirming families and children who are in situations where they have multiple parents or there's a divorce or a death, where there's family strain, that type of thing, to affirm that they are daughters and sons of God, and using the example of Jesus in that regard," he said.

Campbell says he saw a sign with the same message on the Internet and decided to put it up on the St. John's marquee at the end of a church yard sale on Saturday. By Monday he was giving interviews to local news media.

Despite Campbell's intentions, the sign has sparked a debate among some social media users.

"As a gay and, frankly, former-Christian man... thank you for standing up for what love, and love of family, truly means," said one person, who also indicated he and his partner were in the process of adopting a child, on St. John's Facebook page.

"Now if you're teaching that Yeshua loves all people then yes he does," stated another Facebook user. "However if you read the Word of God it clearly states that homosexuality is a sin. Now you can be like other churches and pick out which scriptures you want to use and believe but I believe in the Whole Word not just bits and pieces."

The UMC does not ordain "self-avowed practicing homosexuals" and forbids its elders from officiate same-sex marriages, though these issues have been debated in the denomination for years. The denomination has affirmed, however, that it will minister to all people and that its churches should "not to reject or condemn lesbian and gay members and friends."

Campbell says he is "disturbed" by how some people have reacted to the sign, and says many people are making assumptions and are unwilling to ask any questions. People today take sides on an issue, he says, and are focused more on tearing each other down than they are in engaging in a reasonable dialogue.

"It's provoked some conversation and that's, I think, part of the best outcome, is that we began to have some conversation and learn from a different perspective. Whether we agree or disagree is not the issue," he said.

A photo of the same message on the marquee of an Anglican church in Ontario, Canada, recently went viral on the Internet, garnering more than 1.5 million views in just three weeks.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; homosexuality; jesus; methodistchurch; religiousleft; umc

The message on the sign outside of St. John's United Methodist Church in Nashville, Tenn., has sparked a debate about homosexuality.
1 posted on 09/22/2013 6:01:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course that was his intention.


2 posted on 09/22/2013 6:13:26 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure he didn’t intend to cause controversy.


3 posted on 09/22/2013 6:15:09 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SECURE AMERICA
"his intention"

He's backpeddling fast. How else did he think people would interpret a sign like that. He might has well have put up a sign saying "Heather Has Two Mommies, and She Turned Out Fine."

4 posted on 09/22/2013 6:17:03 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: SeekAndFind

A large percentage of churches in America now have become apostate in what they teach..... Sin and redemption are no longer the core basics...... His heart is not right with God because he is not being honest when he claims he had no idea how that would be interpreted....If he’s that stupid then sit down.....


5 posted on 09/22/2013 6:27:37 AM PDT by selfdefense
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To: selfdefense

The new pope is a fine example of, well really 5th column work. He recently stated that you don’t need to believe in God to get to heaven. I guess he’s not read the Bible in a while. Now I hear he wants to soften the church’s stand on abortion....


6 posted on 09/22/2013 6:38:30 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: SeekAndFind

We all have two dads, one earthly and one Heavenly, one maybe present and the other always present. And Jesus had a Godly mom, too, unlike what those faith-revisionists are promoting.


7 posted on 09/22/2013 6:41:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Suuuuuure that was his intention...

Throw the vile pastor out! I am sick of the devilish garbage being peddled by so called pastors these days. It’s a rot and it’s pervasive.


8 posted on 09/22/2013 6:45:28 AM PDT by JimSp
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps the pastor isn’t familiar with what the Scriptures say about liars...he knows EXACTLY what he was doing.


9 posted on 09/22/2013 6:45:47 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who needs women when you have gay men??


11 posted on 09/22/2013 7:28:14 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SeekAndFind; Chode

Because this is the religion forum I won’t finish the sentence but you may fill in the blank of what I meant.

“My big, fat, white, Queen Latifa sized _______ he did!!”


12 posted on 09/22/2013 7:43:00 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: logic101.net
The new pope is a fine example of, well really 5th column work. He recently stated that you don’t need to believe in God to get to heaven. I guess he’s not read the Bible in a while. Now I hear he wants to soften the church’s stand on abortion....

Do you believe the main stream media about everything? I strongly advise you to go directly tot he source rather than trusting anything the MSM says about him of the Church.

13 posted on 09/22/2013 8:10:31 AM PDT by verga (Lasciante ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obviously Campbell is a liar. Therefore unworthy to lead a church.


14 posted on 09/22/2013 8:17:28 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke!" -- Kool-Aid)
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To: Morgana
feh...
15 posted on 09/22/2013 8:56:40 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SeekAndFind
I was willing to cut the pastor a break until this quote:

Doesn't sound much like a desire to transform hearts. I wonder if he has one of those "Coexist" bumper sticker on his car.
16 posted on 09/22/2013 1:27:29 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: SeekAndFind
"Many people have interpreted the message, which refers to God and Joseph, to be a statement about gay and lesbian parents. But Bill Campbell, pastor of St. John's United Methodist Church in Nashville..."

That told me all I need to know. It is a profligate cult. Of course this was his intention.

17 posted on 09/22/2013 1:51:40 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Many people have interpreted the message, which refers to God and Joseph, to be a statement about gay and lesbian parents. But Bill Campbell, pastor of St. John's United Methodist Church in Nashville, told CP that wasn't his intention.

Right. I guess lying though your teeth about your intentions is an actual class at Methodist Minister School. I wonder how many credit hours it is. As an aside, I have to mention it comes as no surprise to me this would be a Methodist.

18 posted on 09/22/2013 2:00:31 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Many people have interpreted the message, which refers to God and Joseph, to be a statement about gay and lesbian parents. But Bill Campbell, pastor of St. John's United Methodist Church in Nashville, told CP that wasn't his intention.

Sure it wasn't...


19 posted on 09/22/2013 3:06:42 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Just drove by a church (Lutheran?) that had the same thing on their sign!!! Seattle area (of course!).

Of course, Jesus was raised by a mother and father. I was thinking it was more akin to Mary being “raped”, but deciding to keep the baby rather than abort it, and Joseph being a supportive husband and father.


20 posted on 09/22/2013 3:17:39 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: logic101.net
Will you please, please stop spreading the disinformation that Pope Francis said you can get to heaven without believing in God?

I found the quote. Pope Francis said you [the atheist he was writing to in La Repubblica] can be saved "If you turn to Him with a sincere and contrite heart."

It's possible that part wasn't quoted in whatever garbled, edited MSM version of it you might have read.

For some unfathomable reason.

Likewise the thing about "softening the Church's stand on abortion." The day after the 12,000 word Jesuit interview was published, Pope Francis gave a talk to a group of gynecologists and said that today's "throw-away culture" justifies disposing of lives, but doctors in particular must "respect life."... "Every child that isn't born, but is unjustly condemned to be aborted, has the face of Jesus Christ, has the face of the Lord," [Link -- see for yourself]--- that's what Pope Francis said.

"Softening the Church's stance against abortion"? He says it is akin to the crime of killing Christ! "Whatsoever you do to the least of My brethren..."

21 posted on 09/22/2013 7:47:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Behold the Cross of the Lord! Flee, hostile powers! The Lion of the Tribe of Judah has conquered!)
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To: logic101.net
He recently stated that you don’t need to believe in God to get to heaven.

Perhaps you would care to post the direct quote of the Pope's words where he said that?

Hint: You can't, because that's not what he said. Now some people will argue that that's the logical conclusion to draw from what he said; that's fine. But that's not the same thing as him actually saying it.

BTW, the Pope's comments in a personal letter, interview, etc., don't change a single jot or tittle of Catholic doctrine. That's simply not how it's done.

That abortion is a grave moral evil was infallibly taught by John Paul II (among others) and cannot be changed.

22 posted on 09/23/2013 6:37:30 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Of course that was his intention.

Yep.

23 posted on 09/23/2013 6:45:42 AM PDT by adm5 (AMERICA HAS ONLY GOD AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT LEFT TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC. by: LibLieSlayer 3/18/10)
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To: selfdefense

He just wants to jump onto what he perceives is the popularity bandwagon. Blind leader of the blind.


24 posted on 09/23/2013 7:34:10 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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