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To: Iscool
"There's a huge difference...When Jesus healed the blind guy, the blind guy could actually see afterward... And when a lame person was told to get up and walk, he didn't crawl away while Jesus told the crowd, 'look, he's healed'...He actually walked...And everyone saw it..."

You're completely missing the point again.    Even after they saw those things, most of the people alive in those times still did not believe Jesus was God, just like you don't believe Jesus when He said, "This is my body."

The point is, to their very limited human senses, He looked like a mere human being, not like God, and most of His contemporaries of those days did not believe He was God, just like you do not believe the ongoing miracle of the Holy Eucharist, even though Jesus solemnly declared and promised that it was so, and St. Paul confirmed that later.

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"There's nothing, nada, zilch, zero evidence or hint in the scriptures where Jesus said he is going to turn bread into his flesh, nor is there any hint that he did...And that's because he didn't...",

Right, and the word "love" is not in there either. /s

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" If Jesus would have turned bread into flesh, it would have been flesh, not bread...

This is a restriction that you, "Iscool", are trying to put on God, not a real restriction on God.    The truth is, God does not have those restrictions, as Iscool simply does not have the power to put ANY restrictions on God, and Iscool will never have the power to put any restrictions on God, no matter how many times Iscool tries.

As a quick Biblical example of God making one thing appear as something entirely different to a person using only their limited human senses, read about the blind man, who after phase one of the healing process Jesus performed for him, saw what looked to him like walking trees, but were actually people.    After phase two of Jesus healing him, Jesus enabled him to see the people clearly, as they actually appeared to most other humans.    Jesus has the power to make humans see whatever Jesus wants them to see, in order to serve some purpose, such as, in the case of the Holy Eucharist, exercising their faith in order to strengthen it.

Here is that reference about the blind man:

And He took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the village; and when He had spit on his eyes and laid His hands upon him, He asked him, “Do you see anything?”    And he looked up and said, “I see men; but they look like trees, walking.”    Then again He laid his hands upon his eyes; and he looked intently and was restored, and saw everything clearly.    Mark 8:23-25

23 posted on 09/26/2013 8:35:14 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: Heart-Rest
Jesus has the power to make humans see whatever Jesus wants them to see, in order to serve some purpose, such as, in the case of the Holy Eucharist, exercising their faith in order to strengthen it.

That's where the proof of your proof text falls apart...

Your religion is very specific when it makes the claim that the bread and wine have the exact same characteristics before and after...

Jesus doesn't make any of you see flesh and blood...You see bread and wine...

just like you don't believe Jesus when He said, "This is my body."

I certainly do believe Jesus said that...Just as I believe he said, no one will hunger again after they come to him...I also believe both of those statements were spiritual, not physical...

24 posted on 09/27/2013 2:41:57 AM PDT by Iscool
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