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Billy Graham’s grandson: evangelicals ‘worse’ than Catholics on sex abuse
RNS ^ | 09/26/2013 | Sarah Pulliam Bailey

Posted on 09/27/2013 2:58:08 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

Billy Graham’s grandson: evangelicals ‘worse’ than Catholics on sex abuse

AUSTIN, Texas (RNS) The Christian mission field is a “magnet” for sexual abusers, Boz Tchividjian, a Liberty University law professor who investigates abuse said Thursday (Sept. 26) to a room of journalists.

While comparing evangelicals to Catholics on abuse response, ”I think we are worse,” he said at the Religion Newswriters Association conference, saying too many evangelicals had “sacrificed the souls” of young victims.

“Protestants can be very arrogant when pointing to Catholics,”  said Tchividjian, a grandson of evangelist Billy Graham and executive director of Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment (GRACE), which has investigated sex abuse allegations.

Earlier this summer, GRACE spearheaded an online petition decrying the “silence” and “inattention” of evangelical leaders to sexual abuse in their churches.

Mission agencies, “where abuse is most prevalent,” often don’t report abuse because they fear being barred from working in foreign countries, he said. Abusers will get sent home and might join another agency. Of known data from abuse cases, 25 percent are repeat cases, he said.

Still, he says, he sees some positive movements among some Protestants. Bob Jones University has hired GRACE to investigate abuse allegations, a move that encourages Tchividjian, a former Florida prosecutor. ”That’s like the mothership of fundamentalism,” he said. His grandfather split with Bob Jones in a fundamentalist and evangelical division.

“The Protestant culture is defined by independence,” Tchividjian said. Evangelicals often frown upon transparency and accountability, he said, as many Protestants rely on Scripture more than religious leaders, compared to Catholics.

Abusers discourage whistle-blowing by condemning gossip to try to keep people from reporting abuse, he said. Victims are also told to protect the reputation of Jesus.

Too many Protestant institutions have sacrificed souls in order to protect their institutions, he said. ”We’ve got the Gospels backwards,” he said.

Tchividjian said he is speaking with Pepperdine University, a Church of Christ-affiliated school in California, about creating a national GRACE center.


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abuse; billygraham; christians; evangelicals; sexoffenders; tchividjian
Finally some honesty on this subject from the non-Catholic side.
1 posted on 09/27/2013 2:58:08 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

He “thinks we are worse.” Thinks?


2 posted on 09/27/2013 2:59:45 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

I got the popcorn concession on this one. Also the cleanup from exploding heads - if they emerge from the tall grass to engage.


3 posted on 09/27/2013 3:05:25 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: fwdude

Don’t know about this, but I do know statistics say school teachers are worse.


4 posted on 09/27/2013 3:08:49 PM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Let’s hope it serves as an example to the Roman side.

It is always wrong and should never be covered up.


5 posted on 09/27/2013 3:09:41 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States...)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

How do the numbers compare between:

1. Catholics
2. Prodestant
3. Evangelicals
4. Greek Orthodox
5. Coptic
6. Other Orthodox

It would be fascinating to see how the numbers settle out...


6 posted on 09/27/2013 3:15:08 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Actually, it would be more interesting to spit the Prods up as well.

Notice how he said “Mission agencies, “where abuse is most prevalent,”.....

There are quite a few independent mission agencies operation outside of any denominational oversight. Lone Rangers of sort.

Breaking it all down between denominations and these “mission agencies” would be quite telling.


7 posted on 09/27/2013 3:22:02 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Empirical proof or just wanting to backhandedly put us in our place and ingratiate yourself to Catholics?

Who, BTW are Christians the same as us.

Asinine comment.


8 posted on 09/27/2013 3:22:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Gamecock

Agreed LOTS of data is needed


9 posted on 09/27/2013 3:27:39 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Maybe he has blind faith that his theory is true.


10 posted on 09/27/2013 3:29:25 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Read again what you just posted. If the premise of the original post is true, who is more guilty of a wide scale cover up?!?

And the corollary:

“Oh, if only those evangelicals would allow their ministers to marry, none of this would have happened!”


11 posted on 09/27/2013 3:35:30 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

I would wager that the instance of pedophilia and other forms of sexual predation runs at the same percentage across all populations. The church as an institution is guilty of covering this up which only makes things worse for all religious adherents. Case in point, in my church we recently had to kick out a couple who hid the fact that the husband was a twice convicted of child rape and once of sexual assault on an adult. He was defrocked for it by our denomination but no one in the heirarchy told us about it. Thank God it finally came to our attention because this guy was right in the middle of grooming his next victim and his wife who knew all about him never said a word about it to us. She was the treasurer of our church and a deaconess in the organization. And we are a very conservative church, too. The who thing was just shameful, to say the least.


12 posted on 09/27/2013 3:39:53 PM PDT by CityCenter (The solution to all problems is spiritual.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM; Chode

truth is finally coming out.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 4:18:59 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

These daily hateful attack articles are making me like Catholics less and less.


14 posted on 09/27/2013 4:23:04 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Gamecock
Actually, it would be more interesting to spit the Prods up as well. Notice how he said “Mission agencies, “where abuse is most prevalent,”.....There are quite a few independent mission agencies operation outside of any denominational oversight. Lone Rangers of sort. Breaking it all down between denominations and these “mission agencies” would be quite telling.

Indeed. Take the example of a lone wolf independent church with two pastors. If one of the pastors commits pedophilia, that organization would have a 50% abuse rate.

15 posted on 09/27/2013 4:45:01 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: GeronL

Where was your rightful indignation over the last 12 years of daily hateful attack articles against the Catholic Church scandals? Hypocrisy much?


16 posted on 09/27/2013 5:01:26 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

“Read again what you just posted. If the premise of the original post is true, who is more guilty of a wide scale cover up?!?”

I think your post is emblematic of the problem the Roman Church faces...

Instead of cleaning up, the Roman Church shuffled everyone around and covered things up. Eventually, it became public. Even today on FR, posters prefer to point at others to justify their behavior, instead of living up to God’s standards.

EVERY TIME a church of any denomination allows, excuses or covers up abuse, it is wrong.


17 posted on 09/27/2013 5:02:24 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States...)
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To: GeronL

the question is who is attacking who? Gerry I can show you site after site, story after story of protestants who were abused just as much as catholics. When are protestants going to admit it happens in their church and stop the finger pointing?

In fact start here because I know the lady who runs this.

http://religionscell.com/blog/


18 posted on 09/27/2013 5:16:30 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: GraceG

Jews are the worse and it’s covered up by the media.


19 posted on 09/27/2013 5:27:42 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: CityCenter

Time for a cleansing of the Temple.

20 posted on 09/27/2013 5:44:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my all.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
One point that needs to be addressed is the fact that what is usually termed pedophilia is actually homosexuality.

The media knows that people cannot stomach pedophiles. Hardly any of these sex abuse cases have involved children.

The victims are usually sexually-developed adolescent boys.

21 posted on 09/27/2013 5:47:56 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Finally is right!


22 posted on 09/27/2013 5:49:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Someone who is honest like this is refreshing.


23 posted on 09/27/2013 5:50:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fwdude; Brian Kopp DPM
He “thinks we are worse.” Thinks?

You're right. There is nothing in this article that suggest anything except that someone needs a job promoting to others what he thinks to be a wrong. It's equivalent to the global warming folks.

24 posted on 09/27/2013 5:52:26 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: GeronL

You don’t like the truth? Why?


25 posted on 09/27/2013 5:52:37 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: HarleyD

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.


26 posted on 09/27/2013 5:58:42 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Slyfox

In otherwords homosexuals. The media will never admit this. The reason? Although they hate the Catholic Church, and any other Christian faith, they have a love affair with sodomites, so they cover up for their sex crimes.


27 posted on 09/27/2013 6:04:06 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: GeronL

“These daily hateful attack articles are making me like Catholics less and less.”

LOL!!! You mean you actually expect us to believe you once did like Catholics????


28 posted on 09/27/2013 7:01:43 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

I do like Catholic people

They will be saved if they have faith in Jesus


29 posted on 09/27/2013 7:34:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

First you said, “These daily hateful attack articles are making me like Catholics less and less.”

So, you like Catholics less and less.

Now you say, “I do like Catholic people.”

Sure. Less and less.


30 posted on 09/27/2013 7:36:43 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

I like Catholics, heck I usually love them.

As a group, it gets less sometimes.

lol


31 posted on 09/27/2013 7:43:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

I wouldn’t say “worse,” but evangelicals have no room to point fingers. Evangelicals are good at sweeping problems under the rug and blaming the victims OR there are those falsely accused due to jealousy and malice.


32 posted on 09/27/2013 9:45:48 PM PDT by madison10 (Dear Senator Cruz, Thank you.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM; GeronL
Sorry, Geron, BK is correct.

As a whole I've noted that the Religion Forum is a lot less malice filled as it was in 2009-2012. It has discussions and debates, but these are well thought and not blanket

Also, i don't see the hateful attack articles against any group recently -- can you point out any in the past week or two weeks?

I would also point out that in this article's case it is talking about Evangelicals being worse than Catholics. It does not exonerate EITHER.

What would be nice is if we acknowledge that we all have the problem and work to solve it instead of just pointing fingers at one group -- you, Geron have not done this, but others have done this in the past.

33 posted on 10/01/2013 11:56:44 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: madison10
thank you for your nuanced words. I see BG's grandson's words more as "Ok, we Evangelicals have a problem too. Let's work together to solve our joint problems instead of pointing fingers and ignoring our own problem"

I see all the Churches as affected by latent homosexuality

Also, there is temptation -- and Satan's influence.

We need to support our pastors/priests -- they are only human after all...

34 posted on 10/01/2013 11:59:19 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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