Posted on 09/28/2013 7:58:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
His knew God the Father was about to turn His (Father’s) back on Him. Jesus knew the wrath that was about to be poured out on Him. No person ever suffered so much. Being fully man He plead for another way. As God the Son he knew He had to fulfill this penalty, and did so.
He also knew that He would suffer for the sins of the world, He knew the penalty for those sins and He knew He would be forsaken by His Father as part of that price. Understand that He wasn't guilty of anything but would pay nonetheless. It should serve to remind us of the gravity of our own sin and the consequences due us were it not for Christ's sacrifice. The thief on the cross understood darkly that he and the other thief were getting what they deserved (death) for their crimes, yet saw Jesus as an innocent.
He [Bill O'Reilly] showed a clip in which he said Jesus was just a regular guy who really didn’t want to get up on that cross.This is Bill O'Reilly. [I usually can't watch him for more than 20 seconds.] As far as not wanting "to get up on that cross," it was Christ's desire to suffer for us that brings so many to the Cross, which allows us then to suffer for His peoples (with eventual joy and no grumbling).
Listening to audiobook version (and for some reason songs from Jesus Christ Superstar keep popping up in my mind; good Caiaphas, the council waits for you...)
In a new column BOR explains it’s a history book not spiritual (said same in introduction) and he got one email or letter from someone saying “Bill, what do you know about Jesus? You are Catholic and they don’t know anything about the Bible”
>>The book is pure history; there is no religion in it.
http://www.billoreilly.com/site/rd?satype=13&said=12&url=%2Fnewslettercolumn%3Fpid%3D41346
JCSuperstar doesn’t quite show a resurrection at the end.
An episode of All in the Family showed Archie in jail
(trying to find Mike, he wound up arrested) and sees some
hippies singing “Superstar” in the cell.
Hippie: They’re singing about Jesus...Don’t you dig Jesus?
Archie: Jesus Christ I dig...and I dug him a long time
before you weirdos turned him into a superstar!
In any other context, I would agree with you. But it’s O’Reilly, and I don’t trust that he understands any of that. He has said he likes going to church because it’s a place you can be quiet and peaceful; he’s spoken dismissively of “Bible thumpers” and stated that the Bible is just allegorical stories; and there was the recent thread detailing his claim that the book is an attempt to “correct” the Gospels.
I believe he should have stayed far away from the subject of Jesus, because he’s going to end up misleading people.
Same here. I haven't watched him in years, but when I caught that statement, it floored me.
" As far as not wanting "to get up on that cross," it was Christ's desire to suffer for us that brings so many to the Cross, which allows us then to suffer for His peoples (with eventual joy and no grumbling)."
Exactly. While on earth, Jesus was fully God and fully man, and the human part of Him prayed for another outcome, if it was possible. But the divine part of Him always knew His destiny---He wasn't killed, He willingly died for us.
Often though, the seeds will not sprout until there are events in the lives of the folks in question, be it a good event or a series of events, or a bad event or a series of bad events when even the most harden non-believer to start to get the “hint”.
He showed a clip in which he said Jesus was just a regular guy who really didn’t want to get up on that cross.
Sometimes those flippant remarks reveal a lot.
To me this is about $$$ , not respect and accuracy.
That could very well be.
Yes, and silly me, I always thought it was about worshiping God.
In God’s Plan, He provided His Son to be judged and to provide the Perfect Sacrifice for the penalty of sin.
Jesus Christ was only the 2nd person in all human history who had remained sinless up until His death. All others are born dead spiritually to God the Father from the consequences of Original Sin in mankind from the Garden.
The penalty of sin was death, which is a state of existence involving separation. In this case, a separation from God the Father, was the most violent death imaginable.
This is manifest by our Lord on the Cross, when He exclaimed, (Matt 24:36)`ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?’ (prophecied in Psalms 22:1 ELI ELI LAMA AZABTANI)(My God, My God (God the Father singular male), why have You(God the Father male singular) forsaken Me ?(first masculine singular suffix refers to God the Son uniquely)
The opposite of love is not hate, rather it is fear. God the Son loved God the Father and feared the consequences of sin imputed to Him and being judged on the Cross.
Since God the Father is Perfectly Holy, comprised of Perfect Righteousness and Perfect Justice, anytime He is exposed to sin, His Perfect Righteousness demands He Judge the Sin in Perfect Justice.
In His humanity, the soul of our Lord Christ Jesus was Judged on the Cross for the imputed sins of all humanity.
2Co 5:21
(21) For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
All of human history is His Story.
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Note the use of the past tense singular use of the action verbs. It assumes Jesus Christ isn't very alive today.
The more significant event was His Resurrection and now His Ascension and Session.
Christians are hopefully not going to buy this book
After Killing Jesus what is Left? I hope he can turn to other subjects like Killing Musolinni or Killing Stalin, or Killing Charles I. I fear his next book is Killing Allan Cooms.
Who was the first?
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