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1 posted on 09/30/2013 9:37:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I doubt that this journo-list ever accepted the teachings of the Church, so why does he talk about going back?


2 posted on 09/30/2013 9:39:24 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Dear Rod Dreher:

Don't let the exit door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Somehow, I think the Catholic Church can survive without you.

3 posted on 09/30/2013 9:40:44 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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I can’t stand this guy. He’s such a windbag.


8 posted on 09/30/2013 9:48:24 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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Did anyone read the actual article? He’s basically complaining that the Catholic churches he has attended preach nothing but “God is love” with no emphasis on sin and repentance. He said that the subject of one of the lenten homilies he heard was that “Lent is time in which we should love ourselves more”. Sounds to me like he has much to complain about.


9 posted on 09/30/2013 9:54:47 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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I agree with Mr. Dreher. Many parishes have reduced Catholicism to feel-good drivel.

Too bad Mr. Dreher didn’t attend a Traditional Latin Mass parish. There, he would have found what he needs.


10 posted on 09/30/2013 10:04:56 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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It’s not just catholicism.

For the most part, the church in this county is dead.

Little more than a social club that meets between one and three times a week.

The rest of the week, nobody stays in touch, nobody helps anybody in need. Oh, some of them might visit the prisons or soup kitchens, but, by and large, the church is dead.

There are a few pockets of genuine church life here and there, but they are far and few between.


13 posted on 09/30/2013 10:18:43 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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Thanks, Rod.

I'm glad someone as important as you are was nice enough to announce this to all of us little people, so we wouldn't be ignorant of your epoch-making musings on theology.

Please keep us updated.

15 posted on 09/30/2013 10:23:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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Gee Rod...that really tears me up but I’m sure I’ll get over it.


16 posted on 09/30/2013 10:26:39 AM PDT by pgkdan
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My mom does this. She’ll get mad at “the church” for this or that. She’ll say “I’m done.”

It’s always bothered me. What gives her the right to think any of it is about her? Being a Catholic is just as much a part of who I am as being Italian, or Polish, or American, or a girl. I was born that way, and I’ll die that way, regardless of what happens in the short time I am around.

I named my little guy after Pope John Paul, but I love Pope Francis, just I loved Pope Benedict. I wish people would be a little less judgemental and just see him for the simple and loving man he is.


17 posted on 09/30/2013 10:29:35 AM PDT by ToastedHead
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Sigh. The male Peggy Noonan, bless his earnest heart.


19 posted on 09/30/2013 10:47:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not crazy ... I'm just not you.)
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Was I frustrated because the priests wouldn’t preach God’s judgment instead of God’s mercy? By no means. I was frustrated because they wouldn’t preach God’s judgment at all, which is to say, they preached Christ without the Cross. I knew the depths of the sins from which I was being delivered, and it felt wrong to treat His amazing grace like it was a common courtesy....American Catholicism was not pushing back against the hostile age at all. Rather, it had become a pushover. God is love was not a proclamation that liberated us captives from our sin and despair, but rather a bromide and a platitude that allowed us to believe that, and to behave as if, our lust, greed, malice and so forth – sins that I struggled with every day — weren’t to be despised and cast out, but rather shellacked by a river of treacle. I finally broke....

....There is, of course, no such thing as the perfect church, but in Orthodoxy, which radically resists the moralistic therapeutic deism that characterizes so much American Christianity, I found a soul-healing balance. In my Russian Orthodox country mission parish this past Sunday, the priest preached about love, joy, repentance, and forgiveness – in all its dimensions.

Rod Dreher ping for later

20 posted on 09/30/2013 10:49:09 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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The author’s experience is not unique, people attend a church looking for they know not what, only that they don’t find what they seek. They don’t know how to recognize their hoped for destination, Christ’s church, so how can they know what to look for?


23 posted on 09/30/2013 11:00:13 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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When I want a cafeteria I drive to the nearest Luby’s.


25 posted on 09/30/2013 11:04:11 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Not saying the Catholic Church is doing this, but I know a lot of churches in this day and age spend more time trying to make people feel warm and fuzzy than they are teaching truth.

The church is to preach the gospel of course, but one of its primary roles is to hold members accountable, encouraging them to move closer every day to sanctification.

31 posted on 09/30/2013 11:48:14 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Give the article a read before you dump on Dreher.

His example of the tolerance of homosexual pedophiles in the priesthood, rather than condemnation and punishment, has a parallel in the bishops’ push for amnesty.

These bishops rant on with “God is love” drivel about illegals. When did you ever hear these bishops condemn the illegals’ violations of the legitimate and just laws on immigration? When did you hear these bishops condemn the illegals’ theft of other innocents’ identities and jobs? Those are “sins”, and the bishops should be condemning them.

No, it’s just “God is love” drivel about illegal immigrants being children of God. No, your Excellencies, they are invaders and criminals, violating the laws and homes and possessions of innocent people. Wait till a million illegal muslims take squatters’ possession of the Vatican and tell me about God is love to them.


32 posted on 09/30/2013 11:48:25 AM PDT by oldbill
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Yikes!

As for myself, I consider myself to be a “faithful” Catholic which means I follow the traditional Christian precepts and the church Magisterium.

Re: Pope Francis: Almost weekly I look at the internet for news of the day and I read something or other that Pope Francis has said that literally knocks me off of my comfort zone. Then I read what PF actually said in its entirety, and I realize that: 1)he is not stating anything more than what is in the Gospel of Jesus Christ; and 2) if he is making me a bit uncomfortable, then maybe I need to reorganize my beliefs a bit. Maybe I am too proud, or too aloof from the poor, or not penitent and humble enough. So, I think Pope Francis is doing OK, so far.

All good Christians need to be humble and generous at heart. The Sermon on the Mount comes to mind about the “poor in spirit”.


34 posted on 09/30/2013 12:30:33 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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God has also admonished us to fear Him.


38 posted on 09/30/2013 1:24:26 PM PDT by onedoug
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He sounds like an interesting person. I was saddened to see him described as a contributor to The American Conservative, an anti-Semitic "palaeo" publication.
49 posted on 09/30/2013 9:08:39 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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