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JOHN, SON OF ZEBEDEE [Official Mormon Church Web site says apostle John 'never died']
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Posted on 10/01/2013 5:35:33 PM PDT by Colofornian

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From THE OFFICIAL Mormon Church Web site: The latter-day scriptures clarify that John did not die but was allowed to remain on the earth as a ministering servant until the time of the Lord’s second coming (...3 Ne. 28:6–7; D&C 7).

Yet...yet...yet...

THE right-off-the-bat Mormon missionary lesson that their 80,000 missionaries CURRENTLY teach is that when all the apostles (but John) died "...Christ’s true church did not exist. NO ONE held the authority to act in God’s name."

See: Lds Missionary LESSON 1 – THE RESTORATION OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST

What? The apostle John didn't hold the authority to act in God's Name?

Really?

Is that what you Mormon missionaries are telling others? You believe he was afloatin' 'round earth...yet has had zilcho divine authority these past 1900+ years???

1 posted on 10/01/2013 5:35:34 PM PDT by Colofornian
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This is an outrage. I think.


2 posted on 10/01/2013 5:36:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Also just posted so that you can plainly see these blatant inconsistent Mormon teachings side by side: LESSON 1 – THE RESTORATION OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST [Lds Missionary Lessons: Apostasy alleged]
3 posted on 10/01/2013 5:37:09 PM PDT by Colofornian
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We now know what the final battle sounded like on hill Cumorah as hordes of Jewish Indians (aka Lamanites) fired withering storms of arrows at the surrounded hapless Nephites,

“Shizzzzz...Shizzzzz....SHIZZZZZZ!!!”

So total was the slaughter, not one single trace remains.


4 posted on 10/01/2013 5:42:26 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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So who has the picture of Mel Brooks on a horse?


5 posted on 10/01/2013 5:53:21 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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I had a Mormon tell me that John lost the priesthood because he was “not worthy”. @.@


6 posted on 10/01/2013 5:53:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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I had a Mormon tell me that John lost the priesthood because he was “not worthy”. @.@

I saw a Mormon Web article recently which said that official Mormondom used to blame the "universal apostasy" on the early Christian leaders...but that the Mormon narrative had changed over more to blaming the Christian grassroots.

The current Mormon missionary lesson indeed blames the Christians-at-large back then -- not the leadership.

7 posted on 10/01/2013 6:01:53 PM PDT by Colofornian
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John isn’t dead, he feels happy.....

Monty Python reference.


8 posted on 10/01/2013 6:02:10 PM PDT by GraceG
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lol!

"He's just resting..."

9 posted on 10/01/2013 6:04:47 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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You gotta think he would stand out in a crowd if that was true.


10 posted on 10/01/2013 6:15:16 PM PDT by kempster
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Maybe it was a word choice glitch.

It should read John was not "martyred."

11 posted on 10/01/2013 6:24:16 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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Maybe it was a word choice glitch. It should read John was not "martyred."

Nope. If you go to the Lds add-on "scriptures" -- what they call "Doctrines & Covenants"... you'll find their intro to Section 7 clearly focuses on whether John died:

Section 7
Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Oliver Cowdery, at Harmony, Pennsylvania, April 1829, when they inquired through the Urim and Thummim as to whether John, the beloved disciple, tarried in the flesh or had died.

Source: D&C 7

12 posted on 10/01/2013 6:29:58 PM PDT by Colofornian
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Also...this then was already a common "theme" of Joseph Smith from the foundation of Mormonism...even including it in his fledgling cultic efforts in the Book of Mormon...this time being the "no death" theme applying to Book of Mormon "Nephite" disciples:

6 And he said unto them: Behold, I know your thoughts, and ye have desired the thing which John, my beloved, who was with me in my ministry, before that I was lifted up by the Jews, desired of me. 7 Therefore, more blessed are ye, for ye shall never taste of death; but ye shall live to behold all the doings of the Father unto the children of men, even until all things shall be fulfilled according to the will of the Father, when I shall come in my glory with the powers of heaven. (3 Nephi 28:6-7, Book of Mormon)

So not only does the official Mormon church teach that the apostle John's been "hangin' 'round" all these centuries, but that he could have been "linkin' up" with these Book of Mormon times Nephite entourage!

With all of these "No Coffin Zone" Mormons on the loose, at large, wonder why Joey Smith ever illusioned that he was somehow necessary as a 14-yo pimple-faced kid to jumpstart "the only true and living church on the face of the earth" (Lds "scriptures" -- D&C 1:30)????

13 posted on 10/01/2013 6:37:30 PM PDT by Colofornian
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I had a Mormon tell me that John lost the priesthood because he was “not worthy”. @.@

Oh sure. John was "worthy enough" to be granted the Mormon version of the "Fountain of youth" ... but not "worthy enough" to hold something that Mormon women are now clamoring for ...

What do you think of those Mormon women who are going to stand in line for the Mormon priesthood meeting in Salt Lake City at the General Conference this weekend...a "male only" enterprise???

14 posted on 10/01/2013 6:40:14 PM PDT by Colofornian
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//What do you think of those Mormon women who are going to stand in line for the Mormon priesthood meeting in Salt Lake City at the General Conference this weekend...a “male only” enterprise???//

I totally support it. I thought about flying out to SLC to join them.

Women in Mormonism are second class citizens treated just as badly as Muslim women, excepting the burka. Yes, I examples to illustrate that. These women, are standing up to ATTEND A MEETING, this shouldn’t be a huge deal, but like the wear pants to church thing last year, it is freaking out the Mormon men.

As a Christian, I hold the same authority to act in the name of Christ as my husband or any other believer. Christians believe in equal rights, Mormons do not.


15 posted on 10/01/2013 7:04:08 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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Christians believe in equal rights, Mormons do not.

We are TOO equal!!

--MormonDude(just different...)

16 posted on 10/01/2013 7:58:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

To the headline: OMG!


17 posted on 10/01/2013 8:17:44 PM PDT by svcw (obama lied my plan died)
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To: kempster

Obviously you haven’t walked around downtown in a major city. A guy in full Roman garb would not be out of place with all of todays freaks...


18 posted on 10/02/2013 4:11:33 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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PROBABLY?

Surely by NOW they'd have this nailed DOWN!

19 posted on 10/02/2013 4:22:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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The latter-day scriptures clarify that John did not die but was allowed to remain on the earth as a ministering servant until the time of the Lord’s second coming (John 21:20–23; 3 Ne. 28:6–7; D&C 7).

See related thread:
So what’s your experience with the Three Nephites?

20 posted on 10/02/2013 5:15:41 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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