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Top 10 Embarrassments of the Mormon Religion
ListVerse.com ^ | Oct. 5, 2012 | Zabrina

Posted on 10/03/2013 5:57:19 AM PDT by Colofornian

Mormon is allegedly a prophet-historian who was the native American believed by Mormons to have written the Book of Mormon – the main religious text of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormonism). Mormonism is a religion less than two centuries old, but in this short time it has managed to accrue a long list of embarrassments which the church leaders would prefer were kept silent. These embarrassments range from textual inaccuracies to scandals in the life of the founder, Joseph Smith. Of all religions, it’s difficult to believe this one has caught on given the long list of embarrassments that follows! Mormonism and its faults is a particularly interesting topic at present given that Mitt Romney is a Mormon and he is campaigning against President Obama in the upcoming US Presidential elections. It will be interesting to see whether Romney 2012 becomes President Romney – only time will tell.

10 False Book

Embarrassment: Book of Abraham

The Book of Abraham, one of the central texts of Mormonism, is a poor translation of Egyptian papyri. Fragments of the original text were found and studied by renowned historians with credentials and experience. These experts discovered the fragments to be scraps of funeral spells used to help spirits move on to the afterlife. There were no resemblances between the text and the supposedly divinely-inspired translation that Smith invented. As well as the mainstream Mormon church, other related churches, such as the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, still believe it to be a canon work that represents the will of God. Apologists for the Book claim that modern Egyptologists are simply translating the text wrong – basically meaning that Joseph Smith is the only human to have lived who understood Egyptian hieroglyphics correctly (aside from the Egyptians themselves of course).

9 Martyr or Coward?

Embarrassment: Smith’s death – suicide, heroic, or somewhere in between?

Some say that Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, fought back bravely against attackers, but others believe he committed suicide by jumping out of a window. A few things are certain – he shot and was shot, and at some point, fell out of a window. He used a smuggled pistol to shoot at a mob and did not die a martyr’s death in any case, as is claimed by many Mormons. There is quite a stark contrast between Christian martyrs who – in virtually every case – trusted God enough to welcome their death and Joseph Smith who so lacked belief in his own “religion” that he was terrified of dying.

8 Missing History

Embarrassment: No archaeological evidence

The claims made by the Book of Mormon mention specific tools, technologies, crops, and animals that simply didn’t exist in those regions at the times stated. For example, horses, cattle, sheep, and swine weren’t roaming between 2500 BC and 400 AD, as claimed. Most of these species were introduced in 1493 by Christopher Columbus. Similarly, barley and wheat weren’t grown, iron and steel weren’t being produced, and systems of weight and measurement such as the Mormons claim existed simply aren’t supported by archaeological evidence.

7 Plagiarism

Embarrassment: Plagiarism of the King James Bible

There are specific quotes in the Book of Mormon that are found in the King James Bible and other modern works that Joseph Smith had access to. For example, Alma 5:52 is identical almost word-for-word to Matthew 3:10. Smith plagiarized 478 verses from the book of Isaiah, and 201 are identical to the King James Bible. If this book were truly divinely inspired, it wouldn’t have been pieced together from pieces of the books that Smith read!

6 Mormon Underwear

Embarrassment: Magical underpants

The temple garments worn by Mormons supposedly provide protection against temptation and sins. They are even credited with saving people’s lives during natural disasters in Mormon urban legends, which is ridiculous to most people without supernatural beliefs in magical clothes. They are seen as sacred and cannot be removed unless absolutely necessary, but then should be put on again as soon as possible. One wonders whether Mitt Romney’s underwear is “Mormon-approved.”

5 Polygamy

Embarrassment: Polygamy – now it’s valid, now it isn’t?

The first forty years of Mormonism involved plural marriage, a form of harem-keeping by men who were taught by Joseph Smith that it was a doctrine worth following. Smith then proceeded to marry half a dozen women in 1843, yet he denied to the public that he practiced this polygamy. He had at least forty wives in his lifetime, some of whom were thirteen years old, and Brigham Young had fifty wives. Now, the modern view is that polygamy is unacceptable, which seems to be a revelation brought about by the illegality of polygamy. The Mormon god can has changed his mind, it seems!

4 Lost Text

Embarrassment: First translation mysteriously lost

The Book of Mormon, when first translated, was given to a friend who supposedly lost them. Joseph Smith should have been able to retranslate them from his “golden tablets” – the original source of this book – and yet he found an excuse to avoid this. He said that they were not allowed to be in the Book of Mormon anymore, clearly because if the original were to be found and compared with the new translation, the inconsistencies in the text he made up would be discovered. Pictured above are seven lines that Smith claimed he copied directly from the mysterious (and missing) golden tablets on which he said the Book of Mormon was written.

3 False Witnesses

Embarrassment: Witnesses were excommunicated

Two groups of witnesses supposedly saw the translation of the Book of Mormon, yet they were all excommunicated after disagreements with Smith. It seems the first group of three witnesses found it too much of a hoax to stay in the church after witnessing this, so a second group needed to be found. These eight men signed statements claiming to have seen and handled the golden plates, though it was later revealed that they hadn’t actually done so. In other words, Smith forced them to lie about seeing the plates.

2 Stolen Rituals

Embarrassment: Stolen temple rituals

Symbols and rituals for Mormon temples were stolen from Freemasonry. Some of these rituals include the symbols on the “magic underpants” worn by Mormons, a secret handshake that Freemasons exchange somehow becoming the handshake people must give angels in order to enter the highest heavenly kingdom, and more. Joseph Smith was expelled from the Freemasons for this theft, though he still tried to appeal to the Masons in the mob that came to kill him by giving the first words of a Mason signal of distress, abandoning his created faith in his last moments.

1 Slaughter of Innocents

Embarrassment: Mountain Meadows Massacre

In the Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857, a gang of Mormons banded up to attack a wagon train of families from Arkansas on their way to California. The aggressors pretended to be Native Americans so they could achieve a political goal, and when they feared discovery by the victims, murdered about 120 men, women, and children over the age of seven in order to avoid leaving witnesses to testify as to who was really behind the attacks.These embarrassments add up to a damning conclusion: Joseph Smith managed to string along his followers for decades, and even today, churches and communities exist that believe these ridiculous fantasies. The embarrassments listed above are just the beginning for the Mormon community, who would just as soon explain away each reason to doubt their deeply-held convictions – a sad state of affairs for any logical human being.


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From the commentary:

10 False Book

Embarrassment: Book of Abraham

9 Martyr or Coward?

Embarrassment: Smith’s death – suicide, heroic, or somewhere in between?

8 Missing History

Embarrassment: No archaeological evidence

7 Plagiarism

Embarrassment: Plagiarism of the King James Bible

6 Mormon Underwear

Embarrassment: Magical underpants

5 Polygamy

Embarrassment: Polygamy – now it’s valid, now it isn’t?

4 Lost Text

Embarrassment: First translation mysteriously lost

3 False Witnesses

Embarrassment: Witnesses were excommunicated

2 Stolen Rituals

Embarrassment: Stolen temple rituals

1 Slaughter of Innocents

Embarrassment: Mountain Meadows Massacre


1 posted on 10/03/2013 5:57:19 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Re-writing the Bible worked for Mad Mo when the child-molester, polygamist created Islam so why not for the Mormons. Want to have sex with children and multiple women, create a religion and call yourself a prophet.


2 posted on 10/03/2013 5:59:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Colofornian

#1 should be Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign. ;-)


3 posted on 10/03/2013 6:02:19 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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Interesting,
I bought a book years ago at a garage sale, I only had to read a few passages to know it was false.


4 posted on 10/03/2013 6:07:54 AM PDT by Sophia777
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To: Colofornian
Embarrassment: First translation mysteriously lost

The "sealed pages" supposedly found by Christopher Nemelka:
Didn't Do Your Homework
Sealed Fate (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
True Believer: A fabled portion of...Book of Mormon made a one-time believer of Christine Marie...

5 posted on 10/03/2013 6:08:22 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: Colofornian

Scientology proves that people will believe anything.


7 posted on 10/03/2013 6:09:20 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Mechanicos; All
I would much rather prefer to have a Mormon family as a neighbor living next door then an anti-Mormon person.

I, on the other hand, would much rather having a neighbor willing to tell the truth than one who goes about enabling others in their hurtful lies.

"Love REJOICES in the truth." (1 Corinthians 13:6)

10 posted on 10/03/2013 6:22:01 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Mechanicos
I would much rather prefer to have a Mormon family as a neighbor living next door then an anti-Mormon person.

I welcome all anti mormonism people to my neighborhood.

13 posted on 10/03/2013 6:29:24 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: trebb

See...and then somebody can come on board and repeat what I just said to you ... and then it’ll go on and on and on...


14 posted on 10/03/2013 6:29:43 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Aside from antagonizing Mormons, which would seem to be a petty personal goal, is there any purpose to this thread? Are you attempting to illuminate the peculiarities of Mormonism? Or are you trying to discredit it because you don’t consider it a valid religion?


15 posted on 10/03/2013 6:32:43 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Colofornian
No...the #1 embarrassment of the Church of Latter Day Saints is its blanket support for illegal alien amnesty.

From the top bishops to Mormon Judges like Murray Snow who has declared war of Sheriff Joe Arpaio - Mormons have become traitors within by pushing hard, with mucho dollars to support massive amnesty for tens of millions of foreign invaders. DAMN THEM!

16 posted on 10/03/2013 6:33:00 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: IronJack
It's real simple:

1. Jesus comforted the afflicted; and He afflicted the comfortable (the legalistic Pharisees). The Good News of the Gospel comforts the spiritually afflicted; and truth -- including the Law -- unsettles the religiously comfortable...depicting their need for something beyond mere religiosity.

2. Many cults essentially concede their extreme positions -- and don't try to masquerade as Christianity. Mormonism is the opposite. It acts as a counterfeit. And I don't see you trying to dissuade our government to stop exposing counterfeit passing of bills, counterfeit frauds attempting to scan others, etc.

3. Mormonism regards ALL Christian denominations as "apostate"..."the church of the devil"...ALL of its creeds as an 'abomination'...ALL of its professing believers as "corrupt"...

Let's see, then, you're consistency is asking the Mormon church why it "antagonizes" orthodox, Protestant, and Catholic denominations by labeling itself to be "the ONLY true and living church on the face of the earth." (Lds "scriptures" -- Doctrine & Covenants 1:30)

19 posted on 10/03/2013 6:45:31 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; ejonesie22; Elsie; Godzilla; Holly_P; MHGinTN; narses; ...
Here are a few more to consider ...

  1. The Book of Mormon: the "most correct of any book on earth" with more than 3,913 changes, still containing stories of mass migrations in submarine barges, snakes herding cattle, American Indians smelting steel and living in cement houses and riding about in horse drawn chariots, and so much, much more.

  2. The Book of Abraham: Joseph's translation completely debunked by Egyptologists. The poor guy missed the author of the document, the purpose for the document, and every single word contained in the document.

  3. The Failed Prophesies: dozens to choose from including such gems as the violent overthrow of the United States in the 1830's, to the second coming of Christ sometime before 1891, to the discovery of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel living in cement houses in a valley near the North Pole, to the finding the moon is inhabited by men dressed like Quakers, to the prediction the earth has knobs on each end. Joseph wasn't afraid go for broke. And he got there time and time again.

  4. The First Vision: or more specifically, the nine different versions of the first vision; or ten if you include the Salamander account pronounced genuine by LDS Church leadership.

  5. The 1826 Bainbridge Conviction for Fraud: the Conquistador's gold was really down there on that farm in Northern Pennsylvania. It wasn't Joseph's fault the farmer dug so slowly the ground opened up and kept swallowing the treasure.

  6. The Book of Commandments / Doctrine and Covenants: supposedly dictated to the prophet by Mormonism's god, but changed thousands of times and still replete with examples of false statements and contradictions with other Mormon scripture.

  7. The Kirtland Safety Society: Joseph preceded the Enron scandal by 170 years with what was for a long time the largest financial fraud in U.S. history (and still one of the most blatant). This happened shortly after Mormonism's god promised the banking institution, "like Aaron's rod shall swallow up all other banks … and grow and flourish and spread from the rivers to the ends of the earth, and survive when all others should be laid in ruins."

  8. The United Order: Rigdon talked Smith into trying communism about 30 years or so before Marx and Engels. The Saints got the same economic results as other “workers’ paradises” such as the Soviet Union, Cuba and North Korea. The Saints eventually abandoned this commandment in favor of “the law of tithing” even though the United Order was proclaimed to be “an everlasting order for the benefit of my church, and for the salvation of men until I [Jesus] come.”

  9. The Garden of Eden located in Independence, Missouri: This was the place where Adam and Eve were given Sacred Temple Garments (long johns with secret Masonic symbols) to cover their nakedness after they were expelled from paradise.

  10. The Kinderhook Plates: a hoax by evil gentiles who took pieces of brass, and then inspired by the characters on a box of Chinese green tea, etched strange markings on them with acid. Joseph pronounced the artifacts genuine and determined they contained information about a descendant of Ham.

  11. Doctrine & Covenants Section 132: polygamy as a result of a "new and everlasting covenant … [and] if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory." This revelation convinced more than thirty women, many in their teens and several married to other men, to share Joseph's celestial bed. And it ruined the lives of thousands of his devout followers. And exactly how does one get rid of something that is “everlasting”? The LDS Church has been trying to figure that one out since the Federal Government almost put them out of business in 1887.

  12. The Science of Kolob: the Sun borrows its light from Kolob through the medium of Kae-e-vanrash, and other stars receive their power through the revolutions of Kolob. Similarly, the earth receives its power through the medium of Kli-flos-is-es, or Hah-ko-kau-beam.

  13. Salvation through Joseph: or more specifically, the idea no one receives exaltation without recognizing Smith is a prophet of god and will pass before him in order to gain entry to the highest kingdom of heaven.

  14. The Eternal Progression: As man now is, god once was. As god now is, man may become.

  15. I'm greater than Jesus: Joseph's pompous boast made on May 26, 1844. Less than a month later, the vain prophet Joseph Smith was thrown down exactly as he prophesied.

One thing about Mormonism ... we can all have our own different rather lengthy lists of silly moments, with very little overlap ... and that's what makes it such an interesting religious faith.
20 posted on 10/03/2013 6:45:45 AM PDT by Zakeet (Democrats haven't destroyed your freedoms ... you can still visit them at the Smithsonian)
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To: IronJack
scan others

Spelling miscue on my part in last post: should read: "scam others"

21 posted on 10/03/2013 6:47:13 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Zakeet

Bingo


23 posted on 10/03/2013 6:48:37 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: jimt

Do you ever get tired of sounding like a liberal?


24 posted on 10/03/2013 6:49:58 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: jimt
At least there's wide diversity within the same umbrella in which I post...You? You post the same words over & over & over & over again...and nothing else (at least nothing else expressed to me...You can't get more "Jimmy one note" than your posts)
25 posted on 10/03/2013 6:50:13 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Mechanicos
I wholeheartedly agree. We have many LDS neighbors and they are wonderful people with whom I disagree on matters of faith.
26 posted on 10/03/2013 6:55:52 AM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: Mechanicos
Agree.

Very patriotic to a man, responsible home owners, well-behaved kids.

South Park “mocks” Mormons for their wholesomeness and family values. That says a lot.

27 posted on 10/03/2013 6:58:02 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Mechanicos; greyfoxx39; All
I would much rather prefer to have a Mormon family as a neighbor living next door...

Hey, we've got just the "perfect" "neighbors" for ye:

From ex-Mormon Greyfoxx39, posted just yesterday at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3073821/posts?page=161#161 in Harry Reid’s Office Leaks Boehner Office Emails—And It Could Ruin Any Faith You Have in Washington thread:

Harry Reid and David Krone...both mormons.
Chief of Staff: David Krone Scheduler: Krysta Juris Legislator Director: Jason Unger Communications Director: Adam Jentleson Gender: Male Hometown: Searchlight Birth: On December 2, 1939 in Searchlight, NV Professional Experience (including Military): Attorney US Capitol Police Officer Public official Education: JD, George Washington University BS, Utah State University Family: Wife, Landra 5 Children 16 Grandchildren Faith: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saint

28 posted on 10/03/2013 6:59:34 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Mechanicos
I would much rather prefer to have a Mormon family as a neighbor living next door then an anti-Mormon person.

Mormon standards of behavior are much more similar to those of Christians and Jews than to those of (observant) Muslims. Those strange (to us) side beliefs bother me a lot less than the SJS (Sudden Jihad Syndrome) that may potentially affect a Muslim neighbor. No question who I'd prefer.

29 posted on 10/03/2013 6:59:50 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Hulka

Post #28 for your read, too...


30 posted on 10/03/2013 7:00:18 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Please do not post to me.


31 posted on 10/03/2013 7:06:56 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Colofornian
There is quite a stark contrast between Christian martyrs who – in virtually every case – trusted God enough to welcome their death and Joseph Smith who so lacked belief in his own “religion” that he was terrified of dying.

Nobody outside of Islam and some far east religions "welcomes" death. They accept it, yes, but even Christ asked of the Father that the cup might pass Him by.

As for suicide, that would blow away the "terrified of dying" statement. Those in great fear of death don't kill themselves.

32 posted on 10/03/2013 7:07:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Zakeet
Another good saintly Mormon.


33 posted on 10/03/2013 7:07:34 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Colofornian
I, on the other hand, would much rather having a neighbor willing to tell the truth than one who goes about enabling others in their hurtful lies.

A lie is only a lie if you know and believe it to be untrue. A true believer in any religion cannot be said to be lying unless he knows the statement to be untrue.

34 posted on 10/03/2013 7:12:03 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: MN.Gruber06

Good way to counter his argument. Right up there with “what does it really matter”


35 posted on 10/03/2013 7:17:22 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Colofornian

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”


36 posted on 10/03/2013 7:17:30 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: S.O.S121.500

When you understand that the theistic definition of God doesn’t allow for the existence of multiple gods, then you will understand why that quote is nonsense.


37 posted on 10/03/2013 7:19:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mechanicos

If Anti-Mormon you mean some one that thinks the church of joseph smith is not true, then you have a lot of good and bad people of many faiths to choose from.

If you mean Anti-Mormon as in .. I will now call any one that disagrees with me a bigot.. well sorry that is a poor stance to defend.


38 posted on 10/03/2013 7:19:54 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Colofornian

Do you see your efforts as doing God’s work?


39 posted on 10/03/2013 7:27:21 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Zakeet

Failed Prophesies:

Most recently, The White Horse Prophecy


41 posted on 10/03/2013 7:39:50 AM PDT by DManA
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To: jimt

Did John the Baptist?


42 posted on 10/03/2013 7:40:01 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Colofornian

This list is incorrect, as the TRUE #1 embarrassment (fallacy) of Moronism is the fact that a large part of the book of Moron was PLAGIARIZED from a manuscript written by one of my ancestors, Solomon Spalding (some spell it Spaulding)! True story has been passed down in my family for 180+ years, including pastors, ministers, etc. who wouldn’t make it up or lie about it.


43 posted on 10/03/2013 7:50:53 AM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: S.O.S121.500
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

And I contend that atheists do have at least one god -- and multiples one usually.

Two examples just from the New Testament:

* "For, as I have often told you before and now tell you again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things." (Phillippians 3:18)

A glutton's god can be his/her tummy.

* 5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry." (Colossians 3:5)

Greed can also be an atheist's "replacement" God.

It can also be lust. Or just self-worship in general.

****************

Aside from then this being simply a "mathematical" issue -- as your quote portends -- with Mormonism 'tis also an entirely different GOD altogether.

45 posted on 10/03/2013 7:58:23 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: IronJack
Do you see your efforts as doing God’s work?

In the course of the last several years, have at least three FREEPER Mormons become true Christians? (Answer: Yes)

Do I -- or other FREEPER Christians who witness to Mormons -- have the power to make any of them in Christ? (No: "No one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit." -- 1 Cor. 12:3)

46 posted on 10/03/2013 8:00:45 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Hulka
Please do not post to me.

What are you doing posting to me?

So what? We're in some digital nursery somewhere?

47 posted on 10/03/2013 8:02:31 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: MN.Gruber06
Let's see
Colofornian: Since 2001
MN.Gruber06: Since last week.

Hmmm.

48 posted on 10/03/2013 8:11:33 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Shut 'er down and leave it.)
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To: tnlibertarian

Irrelevant.


49 posted on 10/03/2013 8:12:27 AM PDT by MN.Gruber06 (A besieged constituent in the beautiful Star of the North. Vote OUT Franken, Klobuchar and Dayton.)
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