Skip to comments.Top 10 Embarrassments of the Mormon Religion
Posted on 10/03/2013 5:57:19 AM PDT by Colofornian
Mormon is allegedly a prophet-historian who was the native American believed by Mormons to have written the Book of Mormon the main religious text of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormonism). Mormonism is a religion less than two centuries old, but in this short time it has managed to accrue a long list of embarrassments which the church leaders would prefer were kept silent. These embarrassments range from textual inaccuracies to scandals in the life of the founder, Joseph Smith. Of all religions, its difficult to believe this one has caught on given the long list of embarrassments that follows! Mormonism and its faults is a particularly interesting topic at present given that Mitt Romney is a Mormon and he is campaigning against President Obama in the upcoming US Presidential elections. It will be interesting to see whether Romney 2012 becomes President Romney only time will tell.
The Book of Abraham, one of the central texts of Mormonism, is a poor translation of Egyptian papyri. Fragments of the original text were found and studied by renowned historians with credentials and experience. These experts discovered the fragments to be scraps of funeral spells used to help spirits move on to the afterlife. There were no resemblances between the text and the supposedly divinely-inspired translation that Smith invented. As well as the mainstream Mormon church, other related churches, such as the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, still believe it to be a canon work that represents the will of God. Apologists for the Book claim that modern Egyptologists are simply translating the text wrong basically meaning that Joseph Smith is the only human to have lived who understood Egyptian hieroglyphics correctly (aside from the Egyptians themselves of course).
Some say that Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, fought back bravely against attackers, but others believe he committed suicide by jumping out of a window. A few things are certain he shot and was shot, and at some point, fell out of a window. He used a smuggled pistol to shoot at a mob and did not die a martyrs death in any case, as is claimed by many Mormons. There is quite a stark contrast between Christian martyrs who in virtually every case trusted God enough to welcome their death and Joseph Smith who so lacked belief in his own religion that he was terrified of dying.
The claims made by the Book of Mormon mention specific tools, technologies, crops, and animals that simply didnt exist in those regions at the times stated. For example, horses, cattle, sheep, and swine werent roaming between 2500 BC and 400 AD, as claimed. Most of these species were introduced in 1493 by Christopher Columbus. Similarly, barley and wheat werent grown, iron and steel werent being produced, and systems of weight and measurement such as the Mormons claim existed simply arent supported by archaeological evidence.
There are specific quotes in the Book of Mormon that are found in the King James Bible and other modern works that Joseph Smith had access to. For example, Alma 5:52 is identical almost word-for-word to Matthew 3:10. Smith plagiarized 478 verses from the book of Isaiah, and 201 are identical to the King James Bible. If this book were truly divinely inspired, it wouldnt have been pieced together from pieces of the books that Smith read!
The temple garments worn by Mormons supposedly provide protection against temptation and sins. They are even credited with saving peoples lives during natural disasters in Mormon urban legends, which is ridiculous to most people without supernatural beliefs in magical clothes. They are seen as sacred and cannot be removed unless absolutely necessary, but then should be put on again as soon as possible. One wonders whether Mitt Romneys underwear is Mormon-approved.
The first forty years of Mormonism involved plural marriage, a form of harem-keeping by men who were taught by Joseph Smith that it was a doctrine worth following. Smith then proceeded to marry half a dozen women in 1843, yet he denied to the public that he practiced this polygamy. He had at least forty wives in his lifetime, some of whom were thirteen years old, and Brigham Young had fifty wives. Now, the modern view is that polygamy is unacceptable, which seems to be a revelation brought about by the illegality of polygamy. The Mormon god can has changed his mind, it seems!
The Book of Mormon, when first translated, was given to a friend who supposedly lost them. Joseph Smith should have been able to retranslate them from his golden tablets the original source of this book and yet he found an excuse to avoid this. He said that they were not allowed to be in the Book of Mormon anymore, clearly because if the original were to be found and compared with the new translation, the inconsistencies in the text he made up would be discovered. Pictured above are seven lines that Smith claimed he copied directly from the mysterious (and missing) golden tablets on which he said the Book of Mormon was written.
Two groups of witnesses supposedly saw the translation of the Book of Mormon, yet they were all excommunicated after disagreements with Smith. It seems the first group of three witnesses found it too much of a hoax to stay in the church after witnessing this, so a second group needed to be found. These eight men signed statements claiming to have seen and handled the golden plates, though it was later revealed that they hadnt actually done so. In other words, Smith forced them to lie about seeing the plates.
Symbols and rituals for Mormon temples were stolen from Freemasonry. Some of these rituals include the symbols on the magic underpants worn by Mormons, a secret handshake that Freemasons exchange somehow becoming the handshake people must give angels in order to enter the highest heavenly kingdom, and more. Joseph Smith was expelled from the Freemasons for this theft, though he still tried to appeal to the Masons in the mob that came to kill him by giving the first words of a Mason signal of distress, abandoning his created faith in his last moments.
In the Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857, a gang of Mormons banded up to attack a wagon train of families from Arkansas on their way to California. The aggressors pretended to be Native Americans so they could achieve a political goal, and when they feared discovery by the victims, murdered about 120 men, women, and children over the age of seven in order to avoid leaving witnesses to testify as to who was really behind the attacks.These embarrassments add up to a damning conclusion: Joseph Smith managed to string along his followers for decades, and even today, churches and communities exist that believe these ridiculous fantasies. The embarrassments listed above are just the beginning for the Mormon community, who would just as soon explain away each reason to doubt their deeply-held convictions a sad state of affairs for any logical human being.
Re-writing the Bible worked for Mad Mo when the child-molester, polygamist created Islam so why not for the Mormons. Want to have sex with children and multiple women, create a religion and call yourself a prophet.
#1 should be Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign. ;-)
I bought a book years ago at a garage sale, I only had to read a few passages to know it was false.
The "sealed pages" supposedly found by Christopher Nemelka:
Didn't Do Your Homework
Sealed Fate (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
True Believer: A fabled portion of...Book of Mormon made a one-time believer of Christine Marie...
Scientology proves that people will believe anything.
I, on the other hand, would much rather having a neighbor willing to tell the truth than one who goes about enabling others in their hurtful lies.
"Love REJOICES in the truth." (1 Corinthians 13:6)
I welcome all anti mormonism people to my neighborhood.
See...and then somebody can come on board and repeat what I just said to you ... and then it’ll go on and on and on...
Aside from antagonizing Mormons, which would seem to be a petty personal goal, is there any purpose to this thread? Are you attempting to illuminate the peculiarities of Mormonism? Or are you trying to discredit it because you don’t consider it a valid religion?
From the top bishops to Mormon Judges like Murray Snow who has declared war of Sheriff Joe Arpaio - Mormons have become traitors within by pushing hard, with mucho dollars to support massive amnesty for tens of millions of foreign invaders. DAMN THEM!
1. Jesus comforted the afflicted; and He afflicted the comfortable (the legalistic Pharisees). The Good News of the Gospel comforts the spiritually afflicted; and truth -- including the Law -- unsettles the religiously comfortable...depicting their need for something beyond mere religiosity.
2. Many cults essentially concede their extreme positions -- and don't try to masquerade as Christianity. Mormonism is the opposite. It acts as a counterfeit. And I don't see you trying to dissuade our government to stop exposing counterfeit passing of bills, counterfeit frauds attempting to scan others, etc.
3. Mormonism regards ALL Christian denominations as "apostate"..."the church of the devil"...ALL of its creeds as an 'abomination'...ALL of its professing believers as "corrupt"...
Let's see, then, you're consistency is asking the Mormon church why it "antagonizes" orthodox, Protestant, and Catholic denominations by labeling itself to be "the ONLY true and living church on the face of the earth." (Lds "scriptures" -- Doctrine & Covenants 1:30)
Spelling miscue on my part in last post: should read: "scam others"
Do you ever get tired of sounding like a liberal?
Very patriotic to a man, responsible home owners, well-behaved kids.
South Park “mocks” Mormons for their wholesomeness and family values. That says a lot.
Hey, we've got just the "perfect" "neighbors" for ye:
From ex-Mormon Greyfoxx39, posted just yesterday at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3073821/posts?page=161#161 in Harry Reids Office Leaks Boehner Office EmailsAnd It Could Ruin Any Faith You Have in Washington thread:
Harry Reid and David Krone...both mormons.
Chief of Staff: David Krone Scheduler: Krysta Juris Legislator Director: Jason Unger Communications Director: Adam Jentleson Gender: Male Hometown: Searchlight Birth: On December 2, 1939 in Searchlight, NV Professional Experience (including Military): Attorney US Capitol Police Officer Public official Education: JD, George Washington University BS, Utah State University Family: Wife, Landra 5 Children 16 Grandchildren Faith: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saint
Mormon standards of behavior are much more similar to those of Christians and Jews than to those of (observant) Muslims. Those strange (to us) side beliefs bother me a lot less than the SJS (Sudden Jihad Syndrome) that may potentially affect a Muslim neighbor. No question who I'd prefer.
Post #28 for your read, too...
Please do not post to me.
Nobody outside of Islam and some far east religions "welcomes" death. They accept it, yes, but even Christ asked of the Father that the cup might pass Him by.
As for suicide, that would blow away the "terrified of dying" statement. Those in great fear of death don't kill themselves.
A lie is only a lie if you know and believe it to be untrue. A true believer in any religion cannot be said to be lying unless he knows the statement to be untrue.
Good way to counter his argument. Right up there with “what does it really matter”
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
When you understand that the theistic definition of God doesn’t allow for the existence of multiple gods, then you will understand why that quote is nonsense.
If Anti-Mormon you mean some one that thinks the church of joseph smith is not true, then you have a lot of good and bad people of many faiths to choose from.
If you mean Anti-Mormon as in .. I will now call any one that disagrees with me a bigot.. well sorry that is a poor stance to defend.
Do you see your efforts as doing God’s work?
Most recently, The White Horse Prophecy
Did John the Baptist?
This list is incorrect, as the TRUE #1 embarrassment (fallacy) of Moronism is the fact that a large part of the book of Moron was PLAGIARIZED from a manuscript written by one of my ancestors, Solomon Spalding (some spell it Spaulding)! True story has been passed down in my family for 180+ years, including pastors, ministers, etc. who wouldn’t make it up or lie about it.
And I contend that atheists do have at least one god -- and multiples one usually.
Two examples just from the New Testament:
* "For, as I have often told you before and now tell you again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things." (Phillippians 3:18)
A glutton's god can be his/her tummy.
* 5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry." (Colossians 3:5)
Greed can also be an atheist's "replacement" God.
It can also be lust. Or just self-worship in general.
Aside from then this being simply a "mathematical" issue -- as your quote portends -- with Mormonism 'tis also an entirely different GOD altogether.
In the course of the last several years, have at least three FREEPER Mormons become true Christians? (Answer: Yes)
Do I -- or other FREEPER Christians who witness to Mormons -- have the power to make any of them in Christ? (No: "No one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit." -- 1 Cor. 12:3)
What are you doing posting to me?
So what? We're in some digital nursery somewhere?