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US Army defines Christian ministry as 'domestic hate group'
Fox News ^ | October 14, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 10/15/2013 1:01:17 PM PDT by redleghunter

Several dozen U.S. Army active duty and reserve troops were told last week that the American Family Association, a well-respected Christian ministry, should be classified as a domestic hate group because the group advocates for traditional family values. The briefing was held at Camp Shelby in Mississippi and listed the AFA alongside domestic hate groups like the Ku Klux Klan, Neo-Nazis, the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam. A soldier who attended the briefing contacted me and sent me a photograph of a slide show presentation that listed AFA as a domestic hate group. Under the AFA headline is a photograph of Westboro Baptist Church preacher Fred Phelps holding a sign reading “No special law for f***.” American Family Association has absolutely no affiliation with the controversial church group known for picketing the funerals of American servicemembers. It looks like the Obama administration is separating the military from the American people. “I had to show Americans what our soldiers are now being taught,” said the soldier who asked not to be identified.

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1 posted on 10/15/2013 1:01:18 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

The libtards have infiltrated the highest level of the military


2 posted on 10/15/2013 1:02:29 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

They are doing an Erdogan style purge right now. The top nuclear general was just fired.


3 posted on 10/15/2013 1:03:37 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Mr. K

We just hate. They ridicule, enforce their will on others, and assasinate people that don’t agree with them so I guess I’d rather be in the “hate” category...


4 posted on 10/15/2013 1:04:55 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: redleghunter

Don’t tell me . . . Black ministries get a pass, right?


5 posted on 10/15/2013 1:04:56 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: redleghunter

Well it looks like FTA is back in vogue.


6 posted on 10/15/2013 1:05:37 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: jsanders2001
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

7 posted on 10/15/2013 1:06:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: redleghunter

I wonder when it will be mandatory to join the Nazi party? Cant be far off.


8 posted on 10/15/2013 1:07:16 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson

That quote should be on the FR home page in bold


9 posted on 10/15/2013 1:08:12 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: redleghunter

Next they will ban cell phones in classrooms. Watch me predict the future with ease here. I’m a natural born psychic.../s

Glad we have some soldiers with brains in the military who don’t believe everything coming out of the AntiChrists playbook is trud...


10 posted on 10/15/2013 1:08:16 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Mr. K

The highest levels are appointed, promoted and relieved by Barack Obama.


11 posted on 10/15/2013 1:09:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Viennacon

They are doing an Erdogan style purge right now. The top nuclear general was just fired.


And a Navy admiral in charge of nuclear weapons.

Obama continues to position himself for nasty events.


12 posted on 10/15/2013 1:09:44 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: redleghunter
US Army defines Christian ministry as 'domestic hate group'

The Prince of Peace, Love and Forgiveness is head of a "hate group"? Anyone doubt that Baraq Hussein 0bama is the antiCHRIST?


13 posted on 10/15/2013 1:10:44 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Mr. K

> The libtards have infiltrated the highest level of the military

Not hard to do when you demote or remove everyone around you that stands in your way. Its like a soccer mom going Tonya Harding on all the other team members.


14 posted on 10/15/2013 1:11:13 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Maybe they will have a special healthcare waiting list for non-dems. Politics is really becoming a blood sport in the USA.


15 posted on 10/15/2013 1:12:19 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

LOVE IT! Oh thats great stuff...LOL


16 posted on 10/15/2013 1:13:02 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: redleghunter

Having traditional family values is no longer welcome in the U.S. military. Only perverts are welcome.

If I or a family member was in the military, I would leave when the opportunity arises, unless and until this changes.


17 posted on 10/15/2013 1:13:20 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: redleghunter
Another briefing told officers to pay close attention to troops who supported groups like AFA and the Family Research Council.

One officer said the two Christian ministries did not “share our Army Values.”

“When we see behaviors that are inconsistent with Army Values – don’t just walk by – do the right thing and address the concern before it becomes a problem,” the officer wrote in an email to his subordinates.

This thought control mantra ‘don't walk by’ is obviously being propagated from the top in DOD as I have seen it displayed in train the trainer presentations for the USN and USCG. This clearly means merely having traditional views is unacceptable, or that is what is trying to be done. Homosexuals remain a tiny part of the total force but they are being used as Alinsky style wedge issue to deligitimatize a much bigger set of moral concepts and the philosophical world view of traditional Christians.

18 posted on 10/15/2013 1:13:27 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: redleghunter

Part of the “fundamental transformation” of the U.S.


19 posted on 10/15/2013 1:15:22 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: redleghunter

The consequences of ending Don’t ask don’t tell is Christians being targeted.
Hagel joining with rabid atheists brought this about too.


20 posted on 10/15/2013 1:15:37 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Viennacon
Don't worry, I am informed on good authority that life in the re education camps will actually be very pleasant and all it takes to get out of the camps will be admitting that fictional Jesus guy wrong and putting all christian bigotry behind you - how easy can that be.

Just remember the password to open the gates is “allah akbar”.

Cant forget that one , can you. And it has such a nice ring too

21 posted on 10/15/2013 1:16:01 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: redleghunter

Up`n here if`n we`uns done found that rattler,
we`s chop his head off
but his tail rattles til sundown
but `twon`t do him no darn good.


22 posted on 10/15/2013 1:16:32 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.)))
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To: MarineMom613

for home


23 posted on 10/15/2013 1:18:36 PM PDT by MarineMom613 (RIP Sandra Sue, my fur baby 12/31/1999 ~ 7/2/2010 - See you on the other side!)
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To: MarineMom613

for home


24 posted on 10/15/2013 1:18:52 PM PDT by MarineMom613 (RIP Sandra Sue, my fur baby 12/31/1999 ~ 7/2/2010 - See you on the other side!)
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To: redleghunter

Given what the government believes, I’m surprised all Christians aren;t considered hate groups.


25 posted on 10/15/2013 1:20:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: GeronL

Bush started this. He stocked the military with radical, ultra-P.C. leadership.


26 posted on 10/15/2013 1:21:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: redleghunter

Someone wrote that manual.

And someone signed the release for the manual.

Expose them please..names, addresses...etc.

Let things happen as they may afterwards.


27 posted on 10/15/2013 1:21:27 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: jsanders2001

A few years ago I wrote that it would not take much imagination to conceive of a world where one must deny Christ or face terrible consequences.

Just never thought it would happen quite so soon and that it would start here in the US


28 posted on 10/15/2013 1:25:49 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
If I or a family member was in the military, I would leave when the opportunity arises, unless and until this changes.

A good friend of mine has a son who has set a goal of being in the Secret Service. He graduated college and joined the US Army, attended OCS at Ft. Bragg and is set to graduate soon.

If that kid comes home spouting any of this PC indoctrination crap, I fully intend to get all up in his grill and talk or knock some sense into him.

But, knowing him, he won't accept that crud on its face.

29 posted on 10/15/2013 1:27:38 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: redleghunter

Again...

Christians should find a way out of the military as soon as practical. The anti-Christian hordes are growing, and Christians are finding with each passing day they are NOT WELCOME in today’s Armed Forces.


30 posted on 10/15/2013 1:40:24 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: rdcbn
A few years ago I wrote that it would not take much imagination to conceive of a world where one must deny Christ or face terrible consequences.

In the military, many in the leadership ranks are being told to embrace homosexuality or face court-martial.

31 posted on 10/15/2013 1:41:46 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: redleghunter
We’ve been labelled as terrorists since 2009. Read the Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment - or look at pages 81-92 of Law Enforcement Terrorism Training . The information the IRS was trying to gather from Tea Party Groups could have been for counter-terrorism purposes according to these documents… Not to mention the NSA data collection…
32 posted on 10/15/2013 1:48:23 PM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: ScottinVA
Christians should find a way out of the military as soon as practical. The anti-Christian hordes are growing, and Christians are finding with each passing day they are NOT WELCOME in today’s Armed Forces.

My opinion, is that they are preparing the Army, to fire on American civilians, during the upcoming civil war.

33 posted on 10/15/2013 1:48:28 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great quote.

BTW, I too served in the “Second to None” Division.


34 posted on 10/15/2013 1:49:22 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tragic that history is repeating itself.
Oh Canada!


35 posted on 10/15/2013 1:50:48 PM PDT by x_plus_one (we are dealing with a group of people who want to kill us so they can go to paradise, it is our duty)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

It is claimed to be true but no one can find the source. But even if urban legend, it is too funny not to share.

The following attributed to retired senior NonCom (NCO):

“When I came in the Army it was illegal to be gay; then later it was ok as long as you did not admit it. Now it is not only legal but celebrated! I better get out before they make it mandatory!”


36 posted on 10/15/2013 1:52:38 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: rdcbn

A few years ago I wrote that it would not take much imagination to conceive of a world where one must deny Christ or face terrible consequences.

Just never thought it would happen quite so soon and that it would start here in the US


Obama is doing his duty in being an enabler of the anti-Christ. He’s putting everything in place that will bring the anti-Christ on the scene.


37 posted on 10/15/2013 1:56:35 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: robowombat
Another briefing told officers to pay close attention to troops who supported groups like AFA and the Family Research Council. One officer said the two Christian ministries did not “share our Army Values.” “When we see behaviors that are inconsistent with Army Values – don’t just walk by – do the right thing and address the concern before it becomes a problem,” the officer wrote in an email to his subordinates.

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!" (Isaiah 5:20)

38 posted on 10/15/2013 2:01:09 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter


39 posted on 10/15/2013 2:03:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: rdcbn
Don't worry, I am informed on good authority that life in the re education camps will actually be very pleasant and all it takes to get out of the camps will be admitting that fictional Jesus guy wrong and putting all christian bigotry behind you - how easy can that be. Just remember the password to open the gates is “allah akbar”. Cant forget that one , can you. And it has such a nice ring too

That is door #1 above. Door #2 is the way Paul of Tarsus faithfully departed this earth.

40 posted on 10/15/2013 2:03:33 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I didn’t know Solzhenitsyn was a prophet......


41 posted on 10/15/2013 2:05:27 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: ScottinVA

If there aren’t many of them and all Christians opt out of the army, next they will reinstate the draft for both men and women.


42 posted on 10/15/2013 2:41:04 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: x_plus_one

Yes, history is repeating itself. During the Roman Empire, at least Christians had only one enemy: the Emperors and their henchmen. Now, we have two: the secular, pagan proselytizers and those who want to chop off our heads. That is why I get very discouraged here on FR to see Christians (Protestants/ Catholics) bashing each other and calling each other illegitimate. Brothers and sisters, we’d better all hang together or we’ll all hang separately.


43 posted on 10/15/2013 2:51:18 PM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That us where we find ourselves today...


44 posted on 10/15/2013 3:20:11 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: rdcbn

I won’t be a wiiling martyr without taking a few with me on a ride to eternity or not...: )


45 posted on 10/15/2013 3:22:07 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Zionist Conspirator

According to the article, “Nation of Islam” is one of the listed “hate groups”.


46 posted on 10/15/2013 3:28:47 PM PDT by Guttlekraw
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To: zot; Interesting Times; NYer; Alamo-Girl; 2ndDivisionVet

ping


47 posted on 10/15/2013 3:45:24 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the anti-christian ping.


48 posted on 10/15/2013 4:13:40 PM PDT by zot
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To: redleghunter

I love that.LOL


49 posted on 10/15/2013 4:20:50 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I think we can both figure out what they have in mind.


50 posted on 10/15/2013 4:25:52 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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