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Malaysian court bars non-Muslims from using term 'Allah'
cna ^ | October 18, 2013

Posted on 10/19/2013 1:54:34 PM PDT by NYer

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Credit: Sam Gao via Flickr (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0).

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Credit: Sam Gao via Flickr (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0).

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Oct 18, 2013 / 11:21 am (CNA).- An appeals court in Malaysia has prohibited non-Muslims from using the word “Allah” to refer to deities, even though it is the standard Malay term for “god.”

The Oct. 14 ruling comes in a case relating to The Herald, the weekly newspaper of the Archdiocese of Kuala Lumpur.

The court's verdict “violates the right to religious freedom and freedom of expression enshrined in the (Malaysian) constitution,” said Fr. Lawrence Andrew, editor of The Herald.

“It is a retrograde step in the development of law in relation to the fundamental liberty of religious minorities.”

“Allah” is the Malay language equivalent of the English word “god,” and is a loanword from Arabic. Malay is the official language of the country, and Malaysians of all religions use the word; not just Muslims.

The term “Allah” is used around the world by Arab Christians, and has been included in the Malaysian version of the Bible for 400 years.

Father Andrew noted that a Latin-Malaysian dictionary published in 1631 by the forerunner of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, which translates “Deus” as “Allah”, establishes “decisive proof of the legitimate use of the word 'Allah' by Christians.”

Despite this, the appeals court said the term belongs exclusively to Muslims and that its use by others could cause public disorder. Some Muslim groups in Malaysia have argued that Christian use of “Allah” could encourage Muslims to convert to Christianity, according to the BBC.

The court's decision stems from a 2009 government decision saying that The Herald could not use “Allah” to refer to God in Christianity. The paper sued, and a court ruled in their favor, but the Malaysian government appealed.

Now that an appellate court has ruled against The Herald, Fr. Andrew said that Archbishop Murphy Pakiam of Kuala Lumpur has given his approval to appeal the ruling to the Malaysian Supreme Court.

The ruling was “influenced by political pressure,” Fr. Andrew claimed.

Though the Malaysian constitution guarantees freedom of religion, Islam is the established religion. More than 60 percent of Malaysians are Muslim, and about 10 percent are Christians.

Fr. Andrew said that “all Malaysian Christians will take part in a prayer vigil in the coming days, praying for peace and religious freedom in Malaysia.”


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1 posted on 10/19/2013 1:54:34 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

This is the beginning of Infidel Genocide by Muslims.


2 posted on 10/19/2013 1:56:32 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Muslims stole the word “Allah” from christianity which has always used it in their Arabic language prayers.


3 posted on 10/19/2013 1:57:27 PM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

I guess they were afraid to tell the Muzzies that they can’t say “Allah”. Good move and a great way to keep your head attached to your shoulders.


4 posted on 10/19/2013 1:57:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hold on to your sombrero! Here comes amnesty! The GOP is on a roll!)
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To: NYer; Gaffer

It suits me fine. What are non-believers supposed to call the Moslem god now, Big Juju?


5 posted on 10/19/2013 2:00:32 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: NYer

Allah This!


6 posted on 10/19/2013 2:03:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NYer

Blacks can scream the N-word but should I whisper it —even in the most hushed, condign tones, then I’m fired.

Malays import this borrowed word, then outlaw its use by non-muzzies.

WE invented cars, but when THEY drive them, this deeply WOUNDS me.

I think its clear they need to STOP.


7 posted on 10/19/2013 2:04:51 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: NYer
Gee where have we heard this before?


8 posted on 10/19/2013 2:07:37 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: NYer

Does anyone think that our Courts have become anything but Democratic? They are either just arms of the politically correct folks are they are just politically correct for their own sakes (elected).

We are soon to be doomed by our own judges...geez.


9 posted on 10/19/2013 2:09:32 PM PDT by Deagle (m)
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To: NYer

In other news, Muslims petition the town of Walla Walla to change its name to avoid confusion and denigration of their religion. /S


10 posted on 10/19/2013 2:09:40 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: NYer
whats going to happen when they hear Mohamutt Obama Use the word ALLUH??



will he claim he never was aware of this EDICT?

will he...at that point claim to in fact BE...... ALLUH
11 posted on 10/19/2013 2:10:11 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Berosus
"What are non-believers supposed to call the Moslem god now, Big Juju?"

That would have my vote, except it sounds vaguely anti-semitic.

So I'd go for Big Cthulhu.


12 posted on 10/19/2013 2:11:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Be yourself. Everyone else is taken." - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Imagine the coversation in a public schol gymnasium.....as spoken by INFIDELS

alluh yous guys line up over by duh wall before we start duh game...

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13 posted on 10/19/2013 2:13:30 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: NYer

NO PROBLEM! I agree...lets all use the CORRECT term from now on...SATAN!


14 posted on 10/19/2013 2:14:58 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: Berosus
What are non-believers supposed to call the Moslem god now, Big Juju?

Monkey's Butt has always worked for me.

15 posted on 10/19/2013 2:44:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Big Cthulhu."

Perfect, IMO.

16 posted on 10/19/2013 2:49:51 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: NYer

I’m not muslim, so here goes:

Allah sucks! Allah is an idiot! Get lost Allah!

What of it, Malaysia?


17 posted on 10/19/2013 3:07:01 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: NYer

allah, allah, allah, allah, allah, allah, allah.


18 posted on 10/19/2013 3:19:36 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: NYer

No problem...I refer to Allah as blood thirsty moon god anyway...


19 posted on 10/19/2013 3:24:31 PM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: NYer

Why would any non-muslim want to use the word, anyway?


20 posted on 10/19/2013 3:39:57 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: NYer

What in the name of “Allah” is that about? :)


21 posted on 10/19/2013 4:49:39 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: NYer

Who are they to say what you can and can’t call God?

Everyone should use it whenever they choose to.


22 posted on 10/19/2013 4:51:45 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Berosus
What are non-believers supposed to call the Moslem god now, Big Juju?

Bob.

23 posted on 10/19/2013 4:52:27 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: NYer

phony moon god of pedophile demon possessed butcher works for me.


24 posted on 10/19/2013 4:57:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NYer

You know what you can do with your goddamned allah?


25 posted on 10/20/2013 8:16:24 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: NYer

I am confused. I understand why Christians in Arabic speaking countries use Allah since that is, basically, that language’s word for God. But, why in the world would the Christians in Malaysia need to use it? They don’t use Arabic in that country, so why would they be using an Arabic term for God? Why are they not using the Malay term for God, which is something like Tuhan? This would be like people fighting about whether Canadian Christians should call God Dios. It just seems strange.


26 posted on 10/20/2013 12:07:27 PM PDT by cothrige
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But, why in the world would the Christians in Malaysia need to use it?

The Malay word for "god" has been "Allah" for centuries, reflecting the strong Arab linguistic and cultural influence on the Malay Peninsula and the sprawling string of Islands in the area once known as the Malay Archipelago but now mostly controlled by modern Indonesia. Arab traders came to dominate the important Malacca Strait in the 13th and 14th centuries, which linked the markets of Asia to the Middle East and Europe, leading to both the spread of Islam and of Arabic influence on local languages throughout the islands.

"Allah yang maha kuasa," or "almighty God," is a phrase that is typically heard in Catholic churches in Sarawak, Borneo, and in Protestant churches on Sumatra in Indonesia. The word "Allah" of course, is also voiced to the heavens by Palestinian Christians in Bethlehem at Christmas and is used by the Eastern Orthodox Christians in Egypt, commonly referred to as Copts.

That this use of "Allah" is largely uncontroversial in the Arab world, which has plenty of religious conflicts of its own, points to the unusual nature of the Malaysian government's effort.

Political Islam has become a more important force in Malaysian society in the past 30 years, and Malaysia operates under two sets of law – one for Muslims, and one for everyone else.

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27 posted on 10/20/2013 1:20:06 PM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: Berosus
What are non-believers supposed to call the Moslem god now, Big Juju?

"Fictional".

28 posted on 10/20/2013 1:24:59 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: NYer

“moon god” works for me.


29 posted on 10/20/2013 1:33:01 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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