Posted on 10/24/2013 7:26:48 AM PDT by Morgana
Okay, that is fine. I take it that SSM is right out, then?
So if I may...A man that married a woman with no intention of procreating, assuming it was possible, would not be entering into a valid marriage and, in fact, it would be invalid from the beginning?
The reason why I ask is because I have a Catholic prayer book which has a section on the sacraments and it includes a section for a marriage ceremony and it does carry the question although it says it can be omitted if the couple is advance in years.
I was very fortunate to have two awesome priests walk me through the marriage prep. One of them is a former fighter pilot and as a vet myself we click on a few levels. He was married for many years and only became a priest after his wife passed on. He told me, “As you get older, you have to stay in shape for your wife because physical attraction is an important component of a healthy marriage. If you can’t see your d-—, there’s a problem.”
I’m also fortunate to be friends with some very devout catholic families and one thing that strikes me is how happy they are. Prayer and participation in the sacraments as husband and wife is like a waterfall of grace that helps in dealing with life’s problems.
Yes.
Yes, of course. The fact that this is “controversial” puts the decline of Western civilization firmly in perspective.
By contraception or abortion? Which is your poison? Or both?
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Natural family planning never enter your lexicon?
As markomalley said, any couple can be willing to receive the children God gives them. I and all my “old mother” friends share some hysterical laughter over people’s idea that women in their 40s or 50s can’t have children, btw. The oldest verified natural conception and delivery was to a 56-year-old mother. (It came up on FR once.)
But even a couple in their 80s can be morally open to children.
Did you miss the article also on natural family planning today or yesterday on this very forum?
Not everything is binary. There is, in this instance, a third way.
I have nothing but admiration for your family values. The only toddlers I want running in around my house at my age (55) are grandkids (of which I now have 2).
And I’m quite happy they go home with their parents (my kids) most all the time. The occasional weekend, fine, full time, not so much. Been there, done that. Loved every (nearly every) minute of it. But the baton has been passed to the next generation.
I thank both that priest who has served in the armed forces and you both for your service to the USA.
Everyone makes his own decisions. My husband is 50 and I’m 47. We would prefer not to have a baby at this point in our lives, for health reasons and to support the needs of our other children. We’re trying to get two extremely intelligent slacker youth into college in the next 9 months!
However, we are open to life in the sense that we are neither contracepting artificially nor sterilized. If we conceive a child, either today or five years from now, we will accept that as what God wants for us, with the proviso that He knows best.
Medical issues made our future choices moot. Wife no longer has the internal organs necessary for conception.
But 3 kids was our choice.
That happens. If circumstances outside your control aligned with what you would have chosen anyway, that’s great.
“Most Catholics don’t seek annulments. A murder trial would be less stressful.”
Ask OJ Simpson.
“Wife no longer has the internal organs necessary for conception.
But 3 kids was our choice.”
Well you did get three gifts from God.
Wouldn’t that describe the Catholic view of the marriage of Joseph and Mary? An unconsummated and invalid marriage?
I’m actually unclear on this. I am now reading that one would be valid, but I think there is more to that. Maybe someone else knows more about this.
that's why they are called Protestants.....you do realize, of course, that the protestant church banned birth control up until the 20th century????
that would be an invalid marriage.....keep her as a girlfriend, don't have sex, and live happily everafter persueing whatever goals that you have!!!!
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