Skip to comments.Why Christians should support same-sex marriage
Posted on 10/24/2013 7:57:58 AM PDT by rwa265
In recent weeks Ive been asked to officiate at two weddings. Thats not all that uncommon. As a local pastor who has served in Kirkwood for over 10 years, I am privileged to help bless the marriage of several couples each year. What is uncommon, for this Baptist minister, is that these recent requests are same-sex couples.
I do this knowing it will make some people quite uncomfortable. It will make others angry. Very possibly I will lose some friends over this decision. But I genuinely believe that Christians generally, and Baptists specifically, should support the marriage of LGBT people. Moreover I believe the real pain of not recognizing the legitimacy of same-sex couples ought to be our real concern.
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Avoiding the burning depths of hell for eternity is the real concern.
Bible first then mans law next.
Another wolf in sheep’s clothing.
What a moron. This guy shouldn’t be taken seriously if this is his rationale.
I had to read through it to see what flawed “reasons” were given. The author tried to say she was using biblical text, but failed miserably. It was all humanist tripe.
The purpose of marriage is to produce Godly offspring (Malachi 2:15).
There is no chance of that happening in a same-sex union.
This man is satanic. Should be sued for using the name ‘Baptist’.
Its message to those who, in abandonment of hope, define themselves by some sin, and present themselves as though they, as so defined, should have a place in the Church, is and only can be that of complete rejection. With respect to loving the sinner and hating the sin, which it indeed is called to do, what can it say to those who, in contempt of the saints who have fled their sins, declare their persons to be inseparable from the sin, identifying themselves with itand then blame the Church for hating them as persons? It can only say to them that all perversion of what it is to be human has been destroyed in and by Christ, who makes those who love him straight and whole after his own image. To some, this is the promise of life; to others, who have bound themselves to that which is to be destroyed, it is the intolerable threat of destruction.
Likely, this “Baptist” minister is, in reality, an atheist. Quiz these reprobate heretics even a little, and you’ll learn that they deny Jesus virgin birth, his miracles, his resurrection from the dead, even his very existence, in many cases. They just like the “idea” of God and Jesus, and try to use them to a political advantage.
When the two bulls in my neighbor’s pasture start romancing each other, I’ll rethink my position in this matter.
What about animal buggery? Should that also be recognized as sporting????
Anyone can call themselves a “Baptist”, look at Westboro
I know one scripture in particular that will “out” them:
“I am the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father except by Me.”
Here appears to be one such person. He's far too well versed in Gay propaganda for it to be the recent epiphany he is presenting it as.
This guy believes that ‘gay marriage’ is possible, but since the state he is in doesn’t recognize them he has to travel out of state to perform these ‘gay marriages.’
I wonder if he would travel out of state to perform baptisms or actual marriages if the state he was in didn’t recognize those things either, or made them illegal.
As opposed to not telling people the truth an putting their souls at risk? Lot more pain in that.
The Golden rule test? That is giving people what they want or what they need? If I'm on the path to damnation I wuld hope someone would pull me aside and gently rebuke me. Not endorse my folly. That is the Golden Rule.
Nah, he probably cannot be sued for using “Baptist” because anyone can use that. Look at Westboro. This is probably why they choose “Baptist”
Yeah, we see those people driving full speed toward a cliff...
but they look like they’re having fun. Who are we to judge?
That’s L.G.B.T.Q.I.A. This man is obviously a QIA bigot.
We conservatives ought to all start calling ourselves “liberals” and see what happens.
The leftists are fascists and commies these days, they are not “liberal” in the classical definition of the word. Conservatives are much closer to “liberal” than the idiots who call themselves that.
By their fruits ye shall know them.
Emphasis on the word “fruits.”
So then should this Bible verse “1 Corinthians 7:3
The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.” should apply to them?
Just think for a second how sick the conclusions you must reach as soon as you accept homosexual marriage.
These people are getting crazy. There is no history that they can not rewrite.
I am not afraid for the hacks that put this junk out but for the innocent ones that see it and believe it.
One positive thing about issues like this is that they help us separate the wheat from the tares.
Yeah, it was pretty confusing reading Hayek.
He used the term “liberal” correctly.
Actually, I incorrectly assumed the author was female.
Never say never just went out the window.
I wonder what a leftist would think after reading Hayek?
The Communists stole the word “liberal”.
Any religion that regards two homo pervs, two feces-freaks, as the equal to a husband-and-wife, is a religion that isn’t worth spit. Ditto for any government that embraces such depravity.
I agree with most of the other comments on this thread. Encouraging people to take the path to destruction because it 'feels right at the moment' is cruel. Give a heroin addict a lifetime supply of heroin and needles while you are at it.
Who is this jerk? Christians should support same-sex marriage? No way, we cannot. For to do so, would negate the sacrifice of Christ and say that it is meaningless!~
This guy isn’t a Christian.
Mister satanic preacher... you are acting against the WORD OF GOD. We will not follow you... we will not comply.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
2 Peter 2:1-3
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name? And then will I declare to them, I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
2 Timothy 4:2-4
Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, I will never leave you nor forsake you. So we can confidently say, The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man do to me?
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, ...
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
2 Peter 2:1
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
1 Timothy 3:1-16
The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God’s church? ...
As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
2 Corinthians 11:10-13
As the truth of Christ is in me, this boasting of mine will not be silenced in the regions of Achaia. And why? Because I do not love you? God knows I do! And what I do I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
Despite the fact that every other day I come across a passage in my Bible telling me we should not?
Oops, he better replace his Bible. Apparently Genesis has fallen out of his present copy.
Same-sex marriage does not even conform with natural law, which is the basis of our Consitution, which is the supreme law of America.
God MUST with the Bible, COME FIRST.
” for this Baptist minister,”
First he is a liar. He is not a Baptist.
The author would compare the words of a moldy old text with his present day contemporary intellect and choose the latter as superior.
This Baptist church has joined the Church of What’s Happenin’ Now in throwing the teachings of the Bible into the garbage and preaching to the heathen with itching ears.
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.” 2 Timothy 4:3-4
Not some half-baked humanistic, homosexual rantings by a reprobate false "preacher".
He will be held more accountable for taking on the shepherd role and leading his flock into the pit.
Who is this jerk?
He is Senior Pastor at Kirkwood Baptist Church in St. Louis County, Missouri. Here is his biography:
Scott Stearman began his responsibilities as senior pastor for Kirkwood Baptist Church on February 25, 2003. He has been a pastor since 1989. He has served churches in Oklahoma, Athens, Greece, and most recently in Paris, France (1995-2003). He and his wife, Cecelia, have been married since 1997. They are currently being housed and watched over by two black labs, Josephine and Marie.
Scott was born in Oklahoma. He has a B.A. from Oklahoma Baptist University (Religion/History), a M.Div. in biblical languages from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, a Th.M. in philosophy and theology from Princeton Theological Seminary; and a Ph.D. in ancient philosophy from the University of Oklahoma. His dissertation was on the epistemology of Xenophanes natural theology, but his real interest is food and music and working with others to understand the relevance and impact of ancient wisdom.
In addition to his pastoral work, Scott has served in a number of other denominational and community capacities. He was a church work assistant for the New York Metropolitan Baptist Association and has served as vice-president and president of the European Baptist Convention (now the International Baptist Convention). His international experience includes a summer at Xinjiang University in China and one summer at the Baptist Lay Academy in Budapest, Hungry. He served as president of the board of directors of the International Baptist Church Ministries based in Fort Worth, TX in 07-08, and is currently the co-vice chair of the board of directors for Doorways (HIV housing).
What would things look like if Satan really took control of a city? Over a half century ago, Presbyterian minister Donald Grey Barnhouse offered his own scenario in his weekly sermon that was also broadcast nationwide on CBS radio.
Barnhouse speculated that if Satan took over Philadelphia, all of the bars would be closed, pornography banished, and pristine streets would be filled with tidy pedestrians who smiled at each other. There would be no swearing. The children would say, Yes, sir and No, maam, and the churches would be full every Sunday . . . where Christ is not preached.
A great many people are turned off by religion - not because of the ostensible reasons of “strictness” in the face of chaotic secularity, but rather the opposite - they are too loose, and believe nothing. What’s the point of believing and going to Church if I can get my religion from the evening news and HBO?
Most so-called “priests” and “pastors” don’t demand enough of themselves, or of their parish.