Former religious skeptic believes she talked to God during the 9 minutes she was dead

The London Daily Mail ^ | October 26, 2013 | Ashley Collman

[2ndDivisionVet]

An Oklahoma woman says she's a firm believer in God after meeting him during the nine minutes she died in 2009.

Crystal McVea is a 36-year-old married school teacher and mother of four who didn't quite believe in God for most of her life.

At the age of three, McVea started to be sexually abused by her drug and alcohol-addicted step father and that abuse continued by him and others until the age of 12.

Those experiences made her second guess from a young age whether or not God existed, and if he did, whether he loved her.

'I saw a lot of things that children shouldn't see,' she told WFAA. 'I always believed that God had abandoned me, that he didn't save me, that he didn't love me and I questioned if he was real.'

Then, when she was a teenager, she had an abortion. A choice she believed cemented her position as a sinner.

'After that abortion I thought, "I've done it now - if he was real, he could never love me now,"' she told The Blaze.

In December 2009, McVea was taken to the hospital to be treated for pancreatitis when she was accidentally overdosed on pain medication.

The last thing McVea remembers is being given the drugs and falling asleep. For the next nine minutes, doctors struggled to revive her as her heart stopped beating.

McVea says she was in a more peaceful place. After closing her eyes in the hospital, the next thing she remembers is waking up in heaven.

'I was standing in the most gorgeous light and instantly I recognized where I was. I knew who I was, I knew where I was...' she recalls.

In heaven, time seemed to stand still....

[AlexW]

“You’re exactly right. She’s also peddling a book, making money off her experience.”
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None of us were there, therefor, none of us would know that.

[luvbach1]

She claimed she died. Once you truly die you can not be revived.

[luvbach1]

She claimed she died. Once you truly die you can not be revived, Jesus being the exception.

[luvbach1]

My definition of dead is “as in a doornail.”

[Netz]

I'm not ruling this woman out completely but there are so many like her who repeat the same story, hoping to make a buck and hey, that's cool too. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of folks out there who want to believe this stuff.
It bothers me because people put more of an effort into “Pseudoscience” than Science. I am not ruling out the spiritual element in our lives but we need to always use our G-d given brains in order to filter BS from fact as we know it.
I think it is a travesty that so many people believe that we never landed on the Moon. Those of us who lived through it will never forget it and to deny it, is to slap all of our astronauts on the face.

There is one conspiracy that may hold water and it is the only one I can lend some kind of credibility to and that is JFK's assassination as the act of more than one lone nut. I claim that because I have read tons of books (pro and con) since the event, 50 years ago. That one I am willing to seriously consider. All the others are money makers...actually, so is the late President's unfortunately. As we get closer to November 22nd, there will be a flurry of articles and books on that subject so get ready...

[AlexW]

“She claimed she died. Once you truly die you can not be revived.”
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See post #11, or look in a dictionary.
How do YOU define dead?

[Netz]

OK, I will...

[Jemian]

And on that I have based my life.

[luvbach1]

If you have a cardiac arrest you are not dead for about 5 minutes until you suffer brain death. Brain death is the accepted modern definition of death.

[AlexW]

“My definition of dead is “as in a doornail.”
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Sorry, I missed this post, but it is a non-sequitur.
Doornails were never alive to begin with.

[luvbach1]

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: ~John 11:25

I was talking about resurrection into the here and now, not in heaven or any other plane of existence.

[luvbach1]

But doornails are not alive. That’s the point. It’s a figure of speech.

[Ted Grant]

Yes. I am open to her story being true. I’m skeptical, though.

I think stuff like this is mostly the mind just doing what it does, communicating in symbols.

Really, it doesn’t matter to me. I have religious faith and not in some desperate need for proof of an afterlife.

As for JFK, I think there’s a conspiracy. But it’s on the backend, not the front end. Oswald was acting alone, but afterwards there were two investigations - the public one and the private one. Just my opinion.

[luvbach1]

How do YOU define dead?

I already have. Last post on this.

[RegulatorCountry]

It’s comforting to think that those I’ve loved who have died have been greeted and welcomed with love and warmth. What upsets me most other than their absence is wondering whether it hurt, were they afraid, and I just couldn’t do anything for them.

Most of these near death experiences bring to mind the Old Testament concept of being gathered unto one’s people. It’s too comforting, though. So, I set it aside as a nice thought, maybe a merciful hallucination and leave it at that.

I’ll know when my time comes.

[Maceman]

Now, take a qualified physician or rationalist, scientist. If hey tell the same story then...I'm in.

Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon's Near-Death Experience and Journey into the Afterlife

[AlexW]

“Brain death is the accepted modern definition of death.”
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Yes, if the brain has no blood, you are dead.
CPR, for example, sends blood to the brain, keeping it alive.
Therefore, there is no definitive time that one dies after cardiac arrest.
I am off to bed.

[Netz]

JFK's case is a fascinating one because it reads like Sherlock Holmes, Agatha Cristie and Arsène Lupin all rolled into one.
Oswald was a low level INTEL operative and perhaps he became “the Patsy” for the crime.

He was groomed to be a pro-Communist and renounce his American citizenship and lived in the USSR. Everything about him externally reeked of Pro-Cuban, Pro-Soviet and anti-Right wing American. He may have fired one shot. But internally, who was he really? Look at his record, that's where the truth is.

The point is, is that the Warren Commission Report, issued in 1964 reported what it could BASED ON THE EVIDENCE GIVEN TO IT (or should I say, spoon fed) from the CIA and Hoover's FBI so of course the report was incomplete and false.

That makes sense doesn't it?

[.45 Long Colt]

I have no idea what happened to her, but bare belief in God will do nothing for a man’s soul. Christ is the only way to God the Father.

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Hebrews 4:12)

And I know the Master and His apostles raised the dead, but He is on His throne at the right hand of God the Father and the apostles are long dead, so this verse comes to mind:

“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27)

[HereInTheHeartland]

Great post.