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Gavin McInnes: I was a pro-choice atheist. Then I had kids. Now I’m a God-fearing pro-life Catholic
Life Site News ^ | October 30, 2013 | JOHN-HENRY WESTEN

Posted on 10/30/2013 3:08:23 PM PDT by NYer

Those of you familiar with the ever-foul-mouthed Gavin McInnes, the co-founder of Vice magazine (so bad I won’t link to it) and founder of Street Carnage (another sleazy website I can’t link to), might be shocked by his declaration this week that he considers himself a God-fearing pro-life Catholic. 

McInnes’ remarks follow a dust-up with feminists during an appearance on a HuffPo panel, during which he dared to suggest that feminism has made women “miserable” by “trivializing motherhood” and forcing women to “pretend to be men.”

In a follow-up interview with The Daily Caller today (WARNING: they didn’t bleep out his foul language) McInnes let go this bombshell about his reaction to having had three children.

“It made me religious. I was an atheist most of my life and now I am a God-fearing Catholic, because of the miracle of life. And I’m pro-life,” he said, noting that he used to be pro-choice and became pro-life with the birth of his first child. 

“Amongst my peers abortion is cool,” he continued. ”It’s like, empowering, and they make jokes about it. Some of my best friends go, ‘I accept that it’s murder and I am pro-choice.’ That’s the world I live in.”

No less stunning (and refreshing) were McInnes remarks (minus the expletives) about feminism during the Huffington Post panel that sparked the backlash that led to the interview with The Daily Caller. 

“We’ve trivialized childbirth and being domestic so much that women are forced to pretend to be men,” McInnes said. “They’re feigning this toughness. They’re miserable. Study after study has shown that feminism has made women less happy. They’re not happy in the workplace for the most part.”

As you can imagine, he was pounced on by the Huff Post host, and the other guests.

In his follow-up interview with The Caller, McInnes was able to expand his argument, noting: “I see the housewife as a far superior vocation to mine, and to most.” He added: “I’m sick of women who haven’t experienced [child birth] trivializing it.”

McInnes said that the only reason people reacted so strongly was because they know what he said is true.

“I think a lot of women smash through the ‘glass ceiling’ and get to where [men] are and they go, ‘wait a minute, I thought you guys had brandy and went to strip clubs, you’re going over expense reports?’ And they see their friends from their small town with 3 kids going to soccer practice and they think, ‘That looks kind of cool, actually.’

“I see a lot of women without kids, in their 40s, who are miserable and I see a lot of women after they have children saying, ‘what the f**k was I doing? Why was I doing fashion PR? I was doing seating plans for a fashion show telling what people sit in what chair. Now I’m shaping human life,” he said. 

“And that is another thing maybe I didn’t get across, I see the housewife as a far superior vocation to mine, and to most,” McInnes added. “I mean I make commercials, and funny videos, and T.V. shows or whatever, film projects that people will watch for ten minutes and go ‘heh’ and get on with their day. I essentially… make comic books. You flip through it and you’re done. My wife creates life from her vagina and then — that’s just the beginning — then she shapes this human life.”

“Who is changing the world more?” he asked.

It seems that McInnes is at least on the road from atheism to a fully lived-out Christianity. Being public about being a ‘God-fearing Catholic’ and pro-life in an atmosphere such as his is courageous to say the least. Let’s hope and pray he sees the light and removes himself from the ‘vice’ he promotes with visuals and language, just as he left Vice Magazine in 2008.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bornagain; convert; epiphany; prolife
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To: donmeaker
Coming Home Network
21 posted on 10/30/2013 4:19:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer; zot; FrdmLvr; RushIsMyTeddyBear; stanne; Salvation

It is fine for him to say these things, but what about the woman he is oppressing and forced to have his child! He must be made to pay for his sins against feminism!!! (sarcasm off)

Ah yes, Betty Friedan and her feminist goals came from the heart of Marxism-Leninism and the Communist idea.
and it is from the progressives of the 1930s that grew to fruition in the post-WWII world that gave us the Communist ideal of destroying the family as a means of destroying Western society and free enterprise. Look at the current positions of the Democratic leadership in the House, Senate, and Executive Mansion.


22 posted on 10/30/2013 4:28:59 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Salvation

Question: What does “B” stand for in “Benoit B. Mandelbrot”?

Answer: “Benoit B. Mandelbrot”


23 posted on 10/30/2013 5:01:53 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Ha! Love it! I, too, am a former liberal who got mugged by reality. And having children did it.

So was I. I married a Republican, God rest his soul, and became one. Both were good moves.

24 posted on 10/30/2013 5:31:02 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: PATRIOT1876
*“I think a lot of women smash through the ‘glass ceiling’ and get to where [men] are and they go, ‘wait a minute, I thought you guys had brandy and went to strip clubs, you’re going over expense reports?*

Ah yes, the glass ceiling, Women's Lib, Gay Lib. How did we ever survive? Women working, thus either leaving their children home or not having any, was a catastrophe for this country...and especially for abandoned and and neglected children.

I knew a woman who worked writing children's books. She got tired of going to an office so she worked at home. She had a little daughter too. Sounds good? Well, daughter was too disruptive and mommy couldn't concentrate, so GUESS who went to child's care and guess who stayed home to do the art work on children's books?
When I heard that garbage from her I never spoke to her again. I doubt she noticed.

25 posted on 10/30/2013 5:37:27 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: donmeaker; Salvation
You are always a Catholic. The marks of Baptism and/or Confirmation are on your soul forever.
We welcome you back with open arms. Sit down with a priest who will listen and get your questions answered. From Salvation.
I was a Catholic single guy.
Now I have kids, and am not Catholic.
So what?From donmeaker.

Salvation is right. You are always a Catholic.
Other Christians can go back and forth between the denominations and they often do.
I have some Presbyterian friends in Texas, God-fearing and church-going GOOD people. I once asked them what the difference was between the various Protestant faiths. They didn't know. They DID know about the bad ole Catholics but they DID NOT know one Protestant theology from another.

As I understand it (See Google.) there are some 30,000-40,000 different Protestant denominations.

One Roman Catholic Church. There used to be Orthodox Catholic Churches but since Pope John XXIII (I think) allowed the vernacular to be used in all Masses, those Orthodox Catholic Churches, Eastern, whatever, had no reason NOT to unite with Rome.
They DID unite once again with Rome. What difference does the language make? God MADE all those languages so it stands to reason that He always knows what we are talking about.

26 posted on 10/30/2013 5:56:26 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Catholicism is a protestant denomination.


27 posted on 10/30/2013 5:58:59 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: donmeaker
Catholicism is a protestant denomination.

THAT would mean that Martin Luther, a Catholic priest, was born before Christ.
LOL!!

MARTIN LUTHER: born: November 10, 1483
Birthplace: Eisleben, Germany
Died: February 18, 1546
Martin Luther was German monk, priest, and professor theology whose arguments against the behavior of the Catholic Church in his work Ninety-Five Theses led to the formation of the Protestant Church.

DON IS WRONG THIS TIME. :O(

28 posted on 10/30/2013 6:07:32 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I am wrong a lot, but don’t see how Catholicism being a protestant religion would logically make Martin Luther, the Catholic priest, predate the birth of Christ.

Catholicism was in protest against any heresy you can care to name. (Let us choose the Roman Paganism).

Such a protest against paganism began based on the evidence that the Church Fathers gave of the life of Jesus and how that related to the Old Testament scriptures.


29 posted on 10/30/2013 6:20:10 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: GreyFriar

Seems to me this is what a post-modern shock-jock has to say in order to shock anyone.


30 posted on 10/30/2013 8:15:56 PM PDT by zot
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To: donmeaker

**Catholicism is a protestant denomination.**

Where on earth did you get that idea?

Catholicism was the first church founded by Christ on the Apostles.


31 posted on 10/30/2013 8:41:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: donmeaker
I am wrong a lot, but don’t see how Catholicism being a protestant religion would logically make Martin Luther, the Catholic priest, predate the birth of Christ.
I haven't a CLUE what you are talking about here. You misread and misinterpreted EVERYTHING I wrote.

Catholicism was in protest against any heresy you can care to name. (Let us choose the Roman Paganism).
Catholicism was NEVER "in protest" about anything. The early Church fathers deprecated heresy, but all faiths do. Also, Catholicism came into being right during and in the middle of the Roman era. And it wasn't a protest at all. The Catholic Church grew because the early Church fathers fostered it and nurtured it.

Such a protest against paganism began based on the evidence that the Church Fathers gave of the life of Jesus and how that related to the Old Testament scriptures.
Again, I haven't a CLUE as to what you are trying to say. Jesus WAS the fulfillment of the Old Testament. He was the promised Messiah.

32 posted on 10/30/2013 9:14:02 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: stanne
Gavin is great! Miles, on the other hand...
33 posted on 10/30/2013 11:17:27 PM PDT by RPTMS
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To: donmeaker

Your loss.


34 posted on 10/30/2013 11:25:26 PM PDT by RPTMS
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To: donmeaker

Funny, especially if you’re a mathematician, but I’m not smart enough to figure out what that has to do with rejecting Catholicism.


35 posted on 10/31/2013 3:17:12 AM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: RPTMS

Miles is an ijiut

The dad is great


36 posted on 10/31/2013 4:44:25 AM PDT by stanne
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To: donmeaker

Sure you are. We love ya regardless.

God made you, he knows you.
Stay in the word. We’ll leave the lights on for ya.

Kiss those wonderful kids of yours for me.

And you know all of you are in my prayers... and I humbly request you remember us in yours.


37 posted on 10/31/2013 10:39:15 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: cloudmountain

I pray to God nothing ever happens to her child, while in the care of others. No one, not even family, takes care of your child like you would.

Us moms get our feelings hurt when the husband speaks a little too harshly to our kids, warranted or not.

She’ll never be able to forgive herself.

It was a prime opportunity for her to educate her child in what she does. No matter how young. She could also become a future writer and mom does write ‘books for children’; Who better to run them past and get ideas from?


38 posted on 10/31/2013 10:42:44 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: Salvation

Jesus protested the ‘den of thieves’ aspect of Judism of his day, making him a Protestant.


39 posted on 10/31/2013 3:55:10 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: donmeaker

What? Those were Jews that he was throwing out of the temple yard.

LOL! Is your history skewed?


40 posted on 10/31/2013 7:19:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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