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A new bishop for Rochester: reconstruction continues (wow ... excellent insight)
WDTPRS ^ | November 6, 2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 11/06/2013 2:15:58 PM PST by NYer

As I wrote when His Excellency Most Reverend Leonard Blair was translated from Toledo to Hartford: “Bishops are not being penalized for involvement in the doctrinal assessment of the LCWR. They are being promoted.” The Fishwrappers had a spittle-flecked nutty. Micken’s of The Bitter Pill had a melt-down.

Now Bp. Salvatore Matano has been moved from Burlington, Vermont to Rochester in New York… where he replaces one of the most liberal and loooooong-ruling bishops ehvur.

I wrote about Bp. Matano HERE. He celebrated a Pontifical Mass in the older, traditional form of the Roman Rite in the jammed co-Cathedral of Burlington. At that time he said: “If this is what it takes to fill our churches, then so be it,” he said. “I will do whatever I can to fill our churches.”

Stop and say a prayer for Bp. Matano as he begins his ministry in long-troubled Rochester. Stop and say a prayer for Archbishop Viganò, who is guiding these appointments.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Worship
KEYWORDS: matano; rochester; salvatorematano
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1 posted on 11/06/2013 2:15:58 PM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Prayers wafting heavenward that Albany will be sent a similar bishop.


2 posted on 11/06/2013 2:16:40 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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At that time he said: “If this is what it takes to fill our churches, then so be it,” he said. “I will do whatever I can to fill our churches.”

Like supporting Immigration Reform?

3 posted on 11/06/2013 2:38:26 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: NYer

Bishop Salvatore has a good reputation, but I don’t think he has been able to do very much about the mess in Vermont left by previous bishops.

I hope they find someone really good to take his place, because things have really been going down hill, at least at the church in Montpelier where I go to Mass.

Our current priest is better than his predecessors, but we’ve shrunk from three priests when I came in 2000 to one priest now. One of the assistant priests was excellent, but they had to send him down to Rutland when there were problems there. The music has gotten awful, and the choir has shrunk to practically no one.

I don’t know how hard Bishop Salvatore was trying to change things, but I must say he didn’t make much of a dent in our parish. Unless we get someone really good in his place, God knows what will happen.

I hadn’t heard he was leaving until I just read this.


4 posted on 11/06/2013 2:43:24 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NYer
His Excellency Most Reverend Leonard Blair

I can just imagine the cringe when Jesus hears this...

1Pe_2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and (Most Excellent, Most Reverend) Bishop of your souls.

This guy's title makes Jesus sound like an altar boy...

5 posted on 11/06/2013 3:10:38 PM PST by Iscool
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To: NYer; xsmommy; Scotswife; NeoCaveman

OMGosh. Finally, a new Bishop. Praise God.


6 posted on 11/06/2013 3:13:50 PM PST by tioga
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To: tioga
Finally, a new Bishop. Praise God.
Ah, isn't He responsible for the last loser? And if not - who?
7 posted on 11/06/2013 4:02:01 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: NYer
The harvest indeed is great, but the labourers are few. Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he send forth labourers into his harvest (Matthew 9:37)



8 posted on 11/06/2013 5:58:53 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: oh8eleven

The Pope appoints the new Bishops.


9 posted on 11/06/2013 7:53:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: oh8eleven

Both Gregory the Great and Augustine write that we get better bishops than we deserve, and that the bishop’s deficiencies may be laid at the feet of the people-—not that the people per se cause the deficiencies, but seemingly that if the people were better not only would they get better bishops (probably coming from better priests and seminarians) but they would intercede more effectively for the bishop in overcoming the defects that he brought with him to his ministry. There is a reason that we are asked to pray for our ordinary in every single Mass—how much effort do we put into this, and how effective are our prayers?


10 posted on 11/07/2013 3:55:06 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Salvation
The Pope appoints the new Bishops.
Then why "thank God?"
11 posted on 11/07/2013 5:42:40 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Hieronymus
There is a reason that we are asked to pray for our ordinary in every single Mass — how much effort do we put into this, and how effective are our prayers?
So you're suggesting that not enough effort goes into your prayers and that's why you get "substandard" bishops?
12 posted on 11/07/2013 5:46:54 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Because he does it through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Blessed Trinity.

So we thank God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.


13 posted on 11/07/2013 7:56:39 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Because he does it through the guidance of the Holy Spirit
Ah so. Where was this "guidance" during the Holocaust?
14 posted on 11/07/2013 8:00:09 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

My prayers are certainly a part of it, and, along with the prayer reflected in my life, the only portion that I have much control over, so if I want to do something effective rather than grousing, that is where to focus my efforts. Admittedly, with my fallen nature, I often find grousing more immediately satisfying.

Really holy people can make a huge difference. If someone really wants to make a huge difference, cooperate with God and become really holy. If they don’t want to make a huge difference, then they shouldn’t be that vocal in complaining.


15 posted on 11/07/2013 8:11:29 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: oh8eleven; Salvation

I can see the mud is being flung all over the place today.


16 posted on 11/07/2013 9:10:12 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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God allows some things because the outcome is better.


17 posted on 11/07/2013 9:15:14 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Deo volente
That's the best you got - an ad hominem reply?
Instead of flinging your own mud, why didn't you just answer the question?
18 posted on 11/07/2013 9:17:03 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

“...Where was this “guidance” during the Holocaust?”

For a start, rent the movie “The Scarlet and the Black” about Monsignor Hugh O’Flaherty and his work to rescue Jews during the holocaust. There were many many religious like him who risked their lives for the Jewish people - Also the Sisters in convents hid Jews.

It is a great movie.


19 posted on 11/07/2013 10:46:01 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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Monsignor Hugh O’Flaherty and his work to rescue Jews during the holocaust.
An Irish-Catholic Schindler ... but why was he even necessary?
Had God or someone using His “guidance” not allowed one man to come to power in 1930s Germany, almost 50 million people would not have died in WWII.
20 posted on 11/07/2013 12:00:45 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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