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The Masonic Plan For The Destruction Of The Catholic Church
Spiritual Food Blog ^ | November 10, 2013 | Rev. Joseph Dwight

Posted on 11/10/2013 10:01:37 AM PST by JosephJames

The Masonic Plan For The Destruction Of The Catholic Church

A French priest who has renounced his membership of Freemasonry, announced this Masonic plan that he followed when he was part of the sect. As we have received this document so we publish it, asking our readers to offer on this point, a contribution of discernment and further documentation.

Directives of the Grand Master of the Masons to the Catholic Bishops, effective since 1962. (Updating of Vatican II). All mason brethren will have to report on the progress of these crucial provisions. Revised in October 1993 as a progressive plan for the final stage. All Masons employed in the Church must welcome them and carry them out.

1. Remove once and for all St. Michael, the protector of the Catholic Church, from all the prayers within the Mass and outside of the Mass. Remove the statues, saying that they distract from the Adoration of Christ.

2. Remove the Penitential Exercises of Lent such as abstinence from meat on Fridays or even fasting; impede every act of self-sacrifice. In their place should be favored acts of joy, happiness and love of neighbor. You say, "Christ has already won for us Paradise" and "every human effort is useless." Tell everyone that they must be seriously concerned about their health. Encourage the consumption of meat, especially pork.

3. Assign the Protestant ministers to reconsider the Holy Mass and to desecrate it. Sown doubts about the Real Presence in the Eucharist and confirm that the Eucharist - with greater proximity to the Protestant faith - is only bread and wine and is intended as a pure symbol. Spread Protestants in seminaries and schools. Encourage ecumenism as the path towards unity. Accuse anyone who believes in the Real Presence as subversive and disobedient to the Church.

4. Prohibited the Latin liturgy of the Mass, adoration and songs, because they communicate a sense of mystery and deference. Present them as spells of soothsayers. People will stop considering the priests as men of superior intelligence, to be respected as bearers of the Divine Mysteries.

5. Encourage women not to cover their heads with a veil in church. The hair is sexy. Demand woman readers and women priests. Present the idea as democracy. Found a movement of women's liberation. Those who enter the church should dressed badly in order to feel at home. This will reduce the importance of the Mass.

6. Prevent the faithful from taking Holy Communion kneeling. Tell the nuns that they must dissuade the children from keeping their hands together before and after Communion. Tell them that God loves them as they are and that they should feel completely at ease. Eliminate in the church kneeling and any genuflection. Remove the pews. Tell people that during the Mass they must show their faith in an upright position.

7. Eliminate the sacred music of the organ. Introduce the guitar, jew's harps, drums, trampling and holy laughter in the churches. This distracts people from their personal prayer and conversations with Jesus. Do not give Jesus the time to call children to the religious life. Perform liturgical dances around the altar in exciting clothes, theaters and concerts.

8. Remove the sacred character from the songs to the Mother of God and of St. Joseph. Indicate their veneration as idolatry. Render ridiculous those who persist. Introduce Protestant songs. This will give the impression that the Catholic Church finally admits that Protestantism is the true religion, or at least that it is equal to the Catholic Church.

9 Eliminate all the hymns even those to Jesus because they make the people think of happiness and serenity that comes from the life of mortification and penance for God already from childhood. Introduce new songs only to convince people that the previous rites were somehow false. Make sure that in every Mass that there is at least one in which Jesus is not mentioned and instead speaks only of love for men. The youth will be thrilled to hear about the love of neighbor. Preach love, tolerance and unity. Do not mention Jesus, prohibit any announcements of the Eucharist.

10. Remove all the relics of saints and later also from the Altars themselves. Replace them with pagan tables not consecrated which can be used to offer human sacrifices during satanic masses. Eliminate the Ecclesiastical law which wants the celebration of the Holy Mass only on Altars containing relics.

11. Discontinue the practice of celebrating the Holy Mass in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament in the Tabernacle. Do not admit any Tabernacle on the Altars that are used for the celebration of the Holy Mass. The board should have the appearance of a kitchen table. It must be transportable to express that it is not at all sacred but must serve a dual purpose as, for example, a table for conferences or for play cards on it. Later place a chair at that table. The priest must take that position to indicate that after the Communion he rests as after a meal. The priest must never kneel during the Mass or do genuflections. At meals, in fact, no one ever kneels. The chair of the Priest must be placed in the place of the Tabernacle. Encourage the people to worship and also to adore the priest instead of the Eucharist, to obey him instead of the Eucharist. Tell the people that the priest is Christ, their leader. Place the Tabernacle in a separate room, out of sight.

12. Let the saints disappear from the Ecclesiastical calendar, leaving always some at fixed times. Prohibit the priests from preaching about the Saints, except for those that are mentioned in the Gospel. Tell the people that any Protestants, probably in the church, could be scandalized. Avoid anything that disturbs the Protestants.

13. In the Gospel reading omit the word "holy", for example, instead of "the Gospel according to St. John," simply say: "Gospel according to John." This will make the people think that they should not venerate the saints anymore. Continuously write new bibles so that they will identical to the Protestant ones. Omit the adjective "Holy" in the expression "Holy Spirit". This will pave the way. Emphasize the feminine nature of God as a mother full of tenderness. Eliminate the use of the term "Father."

14. Try to get all the personal books of piety to disappear and destroy them. As a consequence of this the Litanies of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, of the Mother of God, of St. Joseph will cease also as the preparation for Holy Communion. The thanksgiving after Communion will become superfluous as well.

15. Cause to disappear also all of the statues and images of the Angels. Why should the statues of our enemies get in the way? Define them as myths or good night stories. Do not let the talk on the Angels since this perturbs our Protestant friends.

16. Repeal minor exorcisms to expel demons: work on this, announcing that the devils do not exist. Explain that this is the method adopted in the Bible to describe evil and that without a wicked one there cannot exist interesting stories. As a result people will not believe in the existence of hell nor will they be afraid to ever fall into hell. Repeat that hell is nothing more than the distance from God and that there is nothing terrible in that if we are basically speaking about the same life as here on earth.

17. Teach that Jesus was only a man who had no brothers and sisters and who hated the holders of power. Explain that he loved the company of prostitutes, especially of Mary Magdalene, who did not know what to do with churches and synagogues. Tell them that he advised not to obey the leaders of the Clergy, explained that he was a great teacher but deviated from the correct path when he neglected to obey the leaders of the church. Discourage the discussion on the cross as a victory, on the contrary present it as a failure.

18. Remember that you can induce the sisters to the betrayal of their vocation if you will concentrate on their vanity, charm and beauty. Have them change their Ecclesiastical habit and that will naturally lead them throw away their rosaries in disapproval. This will dry up their vocations. Tell the nuns that they will not be accepted if they do not renounce their habit. Favor the discredit of the ecclesiastical habit also among the people.

19. Burn all catechisms. Tell the teachers of religion to teach to love God's creatures instead of God Himself. To love openly is a testimony of maturity. Let the term "sex" become a household word in your daily religion classes. Make sex a new religion. Introduce images of sex in religious lessons to teach children the reality. Make sure that the images are clear. Encourage schools to become progressive thinkers in the field of sex education. Introduce sex education through the Bishop's authority so parents will have nothing against it.

20. Suffocate the Catholic schools, preventing the vocations of the nuns. Reveal to the nuns that they are underpaid social workers and that the Church is about to eliminate them. Insist that the lay Catholic teacher receive the same wage as those of government schools. Use non catholic teachers. The Priests must receive the same salary as the corresponding secular employees. All priests must put away their Clerical Robe and their crosses so as to be accepted by everyone. Render ridiculous those who do not conform.

21. Annihilate the Pope, destroying his Universities. Detach the Universities from the Pope, saying that in this way the government might subsidize them. Replace the names of religious institutes with profane names, in order to favor of ecumenism. For example, instead of "School of the Immaculate Conception," you say, "New High School". Establish departments of ecumenism in all the dioceses and take that they be controlled by the protestant side. Prohibited prayers for the Pope and for Mary because they discourage ecumenism. Announced that the local bishops are the competent authorities. Uphold that the Pope is merely a figurehead. Explain to the people that the Papal Teaching is useful only for conversation but which is otherwise unimportant.

22. Fight Papal Authority, putting an age limit on his activity. Reduce the age limit gradually, explaining that you want to preserve him from excessive work.

23. Be bold. Weaken the Pope by introducing Episcopal synods. The Pope will then become only a figurehead as in England where the High chamber and the Low chamber reign and from them the queen receives orders. Then weaken the authority of the Bishop, giving rise to a concurrent institution at the level of the priests. Say that in this way the priests receive the attention they deserve. Finally weaken the authority of the priest with the formation of groups of lay people who dominate the Priests. In this way you will give rise to such a hatred that even Cardinals will abandon the Church and then the Church will be democratic ... the New Church ...

24. Reduce the vocations to the priesthood, making the laymen lose their awe of it. The public scandal of a Priest will destroy thousands of vocations. Praise priests who for the love of a woman abandoned everything, defining them as heroes. Honor Priests reduced to the lay state as true martyrs, the oppressed to the point of not being able to endure anymore. Also condemned as a scandal that our mason brethren in the priesthood must be made known and their names published. Be tolerant with homosexuality within the Clergy. Tell the people that priests suffer from loneliness.

25. Begin to close the churches due to the shortage of clergy. Defined as good and economical this practice. Explain that God hears prayers everywhere. In this manner the churches become an extravagant waste of money. Close above all the churches in which they practice traditional piety.

26. Use committees of lay people and priests weak in faith who might condemn and reprehend without difficulty every apparition of Mary and apparent miracle especially of the Archangel St. Michael. Make sure that nothing of this, in no measure, will receive approval according to Vatican II. Call it disobedience to authority if anyone obeys the Revelations or even if someone reflects on them. Indicate the Seers as disobedient against Ecclesiastical Authority. Bring down their good name in the mud, so that no one will hold in consideration their Message.

27. Elect an Antipope. Affirm that he will bring back the Protestants in the Church and perhaps even the Jews. An Antipope will be able to be elected if the Bishops might be given the right to vote. In this way many Antipopes will receive votes so that an Antipope will be installed in office as a compromise. Affirm that the true Pope is dead.

28. Remove Confession before Holy Communion for the students of the second and third grade so that they do not care anything about Confession when they will go to the fourth or fifth grades and then the upper classes. Confession then will disappear. Introduce (in silence) communal confession with absolution as a group. Explain to the people that this happens due to the shortage of clergy.

29. Have the distributing of Communion done by women and lay people. You say that this is the time of the laity. Begin with giving Communion in the hand, as do the Protestants, rather than on the tongue. Explain that Christ did it the same way. Collect some hosts for "black masses" in our temples. Afterwards distribute instead of the personal Communion a cup of unconsecrated hosts that one can bring home with them. Explain to them that in this way they one can take the divine gifts into everyday life. Place automatic dispensers of hosts for communions and name these Tabernacles. Tell them that they must be exchanged peace signs. Encourage people to move into the church to interrupt devotion and prayer. Do not make Signs of the Cross; in place of it instead a sign of peace. Explain that also Christ got up to greet the Disciples. Do not allow any concentration in such moments. The Priests must turn their back to the Eucharist and honor the people.

30. After the Antipope has been elected, dissolve the synod of bishops as well as the associations of priests and parish councils. Forbid all religious to question, without permission, these new provisions. Explain that God loves humility and hates those who aspire to glory. Accuse of disobedience against Ecclesiastical authority all those who raise questions. Discourage obedience to God. Tell the people that they must obey these higher ecclesiastics.

31. Give the Pope (= Antipope) the maximum power to choose their successors. Order under pain of excommunication all those who love God, to bear the mark of the beast. Do not call it though the "sign of the beast." The Sign of the Cross should not be done nor used on people or through them (you should not bless anymore). To make the Sign of the Cross will be designated as idolatry and disobedience.

32. Declare previous dogmas as false, except Papal Infallibility. Proclaim Jesus Christ as a failed revolutionary. Announce that the true Christ will soon come. Only the elected Antipope must be obeyed. Tell the people that they must bow when his name is uttered.

33. Order all the subjects of the Pope to fight in holy crusade to extend the one-world religion. Satan knows where one finds all the lost gold. Conquer the world without pity! All this will bring to humanity all that it has always craved: "the golden age of peace."

- - - Source: Rivista “TEOLOGICA” n. 14 MAR/APR 1998 pag. 22-25 Ed. Segno – Udine (Italia).

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The sad thing is that except for a few point (such as the antipope and the negation of the divine nature of Christ) one can say that all of this has already happened… Many of their goals have been accomplished. Almost all of the points have been realized since the distribution of this directive, that is, of 1962. (http://amiamogesu.weebly.com/demonio-e-demoni.html)

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Translated from: http://www.preghiereagesuemaria.it/sala/il%20piano%20massonico%20per%20la%20distruzione%20della%20chiesa.htm Also: http://tracceinfinito.blogspot.it/2012/07/il-piano-massonico-per-la-distruzione.html http://lachiamatadimaria.forumfree.it/?

I, Father Joseph Dwight, translated this document from an Italian translation in September 2013.

Before doing all the work to translate this document into English, I, searched the web and only found one article, a forum, which made reference to this article in English. At this web site, http://forums.catholic-convert.com/viewtopic.php?, which discusses the above article which I translated from the Italian, there was the web reference “Masonic Plan For The Destruction Of The Catholic Church”. When I clicked on this reference (http://www.profezie.info/UK/AD_Piano_Massonico_uk.htm), I received the following message from Google at this site: “The page cannot be found”. English is much more wide spread in the world than Italian!

Having been away from the USA for more than 27 years, when I was not sure how to translate certain words or phrases in the more modern, typical American English, I tended toward the literal translation which sometimes might not come across well to the ears of an English speaking person as it might to an Italian speaking person.


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The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!
1 posted on 11/10/2013 10:01:38 AM PST by JosephJames
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To: JosephJames

Who controls the British crown? Who keeps the metric system down? We do, we do!
Who keeps Atlantis off the maps? Who keeps the Martians under wraps? We do, we do!
Who holds back the electric car? Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star? We do, we do!
Who robs cavefish of their sight? Who rigs every Oscar night? We do, we do, we do!’


2 posted on 11/10/2013 10:04:55 AM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: JosephJames
Protocols of the Elders of Mason? Or just another Donation of Constantine?
3 posted on 11/10/2013 10:11:30 AM PST by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: JosephJames
Wow, he was in for how long and got documents neither my grandfather, uncle or I ever saw and we all went all the way to 32nd degree. My father went to 33rd, but I never joined that rite. Amazing.
4 posted on 11/10/2013 10:12:00 AM PST by ricmc2175
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To: ricmc2175

15 POTUS’s have been Freemasons. Most of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons.

There is no conspiracy.


5 posted on 11/10/2013 10:16:24 AM PST by Ripliancum (Mosiah 29:27. Look it up.)
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To: JosephJames
feh...
6 posted on 11/10/2013 10:18:09 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: JosephJames

Oh come on man. I have one word for you re: the masons

Shriners

Ok?

I know plenty of masons and most are Christians and good folks

Give up on the conspiracy crap. Thanks


7 posted on 11/10/2013 10:18:20 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserve)
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To: JosephJames

Sounds like the guy got a hold of a Jack Chick tract and substituted the word “Mason” for “Catholic”.


8 posted on 11/10/2013 10:20:47 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: JosephJames
“The page cannot be found”.

That should be a clue.

9 posted on 11/10/2013 10:25:51 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: JosephJames
Therefore the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion. --JOSEPH Card. RATZINGER Prefect, Nov. 26, 1983
http://jimmyakin.com/declaration-on-masonic-associations
10 posted on 11/10/2013 10:32:15 AM PST by mlizzy (uote)
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To: Truthoverpower

MANY BELIEVE THE FREEMASONS ARE SIMPLY A CENTURIES OLD CHARITABLE FRATERNITY. However, the Catholic Church has consistently condemned Freemasonry more that any other error in its history because it promotes indifferentism, naturalism, communism, and other dangerous philosophies.

THOSE WHO HAVE SLID AWAY FROM TRUST IN THEIR CREATOR, and for Catholics trust in Holy Mother Church, automatically fall prey to the nice sounding lies of Satan who is doing all he can to lead us to his eternal dwelling.

“We wish it to be your rule first of all the TEAR AWAY THE MASK FROM FREEMASONRY, and to let it be seen as it really is,” … “…let no man think that he may for any reason whatsoever join the Masonic sect, if he values his Catholic name and his eternal salvation” (Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus, April 20, 1884).

“I believe this SECRET ATHEISTIC ORGANIZATION to nothing less than the supreme conflict between the Church and Satan’s followers.” – Msgr. George F. Dillon, Grand Orient Freemasonry Unmasked, 1885.

“MASONRY OUGHT FOREVER TO BE ABOLISHED. It is wrong – essentially wrong – a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.! – President John Quincy Adams, Letters on the Masonic Institution, T.R. Maruin Press, Boston, 1847.

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH; DECLARATION ON MASONIC ASSOCIATIONS:
“Therefore the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.” (November 26, 1983; http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19831126_declaration-masonic_en.html).

“Freemasonry’s Influence in Europe - Incompatible With Christian Religion, Says Historian” (Protestant historian César Vidal; http://www.zenit.org/article-12115?l=english).


11 posted on 11/10/2013 10:33:37 AM PST by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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To: Ripliancum
The Masonic Plan For The Destruction Of The Catholic Church

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Sandra Miesel explains why Catholics can't be Masons
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Masonic rituals live on

12 posted on 11/10/2013 10:34:10 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JosephJames

I’ve never known the Masons to be Satanists, so all the items about Satan seem silly.


13 posted on 11/10/2013 10:36:05 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: CodeToad

I trust Holy Mother Church and the documents of the Church.
MANY BELIEVE THE FREEMASONS ARE SIMPLY A CENTURIES OLD CHARITABLE FRATERNITY. However, the Catholic Church has consistently condemned Freemasonry more that any other error in its history because it promotes indifferentism, naturalism, communism, and other dangerous philosophies.
“SATAN DISGUISE HIMSELF AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT” (2Cor 11:14).


14 posted on 11/10/2013 10:39:07 AM PST by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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To: JosephJames

The Catholic Church doesn’t like the competition for the money. Period.


15 posted on 11/10/2013 10:41:42 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: CodeToad
Pure old D—Hog Wash.The premise of Free Masonry is, to take good men and make them better. Finis
16 posted on 11/10/2013 10:43:40 AM PST by BooBoo1000 (The lessons of Wiemar are soon to be relearned,)
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To: JosephJames

P.S. In no way, shape, or form does the Masons prevent a person from participating fully in the church of their choice, so why would the Catholic Church be afraid of the Masons? The Masons are not a church. A person must seek religious teachings and participation outside the Masons and are expected to do so.


17 posted on 11/10/2013 10:43:59 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: JosephJames

Comical...The new liberal Catholicism that’s taking place is being blamed on the Masons...Must be Nancy Pelosi is a Mason...


18 posted on 11/10/2013 10:44:03 AM PST by Iscool
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To: JosephJames

Oh come on man. I have one word for you re: the masons

Shriners

Ok?

I know plenty of masons and most are Christians and good folks

Give up on the conspiracy crap. Thanks


19 posted on 11/10/2013 10:45:57 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserve)
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To: ricmc2175; JosephJames

I note that this is from FRANCE, thus probably their personal attack against the Catholic Church. Or this French Priest’s personal attack plan against the Masons for revenge after he left them.


20 posted on 11/10/2013 10:49:49 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: CodeToad

But do you know what they really do?


21 posted on 11/10/2013 10:51:27 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JosephJames

Vatican II did a pretty good job of that by itself. Get rid of the liberalism of V2, bring back the Latin mass, and stop building modern design monstrosities for churches.


22 posted on 11/10/2013 10:54:06 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Iscool

I don’t see you apologizing for Protestants such as Barak Obama, Jesse Jackson, or Bill Clinton. It is comical. Keep your own side of the street clean first, sport.


23 posted on 11/10/2013 10:57:15 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Well, the Masons do actually have giant supercomputers underneath the Shriner’s hospitals with all the Catholic names and locations. It’s so the order of Albino Assassin Masons know where to go when the time is right for the coming great Catholic purge.

Freegards


24 posted on 11/10/2013 10:59:15 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Salvation

The only reason the popes and priests dont want masons around is they are to keep masonic secrets among masons and are not supposed to give them to a non mason/priests. its all about the keeping secrets part of the rite. It is the reason the cathalics came up with their own fraternal organization the Knights of Columbus. petty Papal jelousy.


25 posted on 11/10/2013 11:05:49 AM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: JosephJames

I know from experience that this is total BS.


26 posted on 11/10/2013 11:15:49 AM PST by 'smith
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To: bdfromlv

?? cathalics??


27 posted on 11/10/2013 11:18:25 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: theKid51

Here is the plan it is up to you.


28 posted on 11/10/2013 11:18:34 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Hacksaw

POPE BENEDICT BEGAN THE REFORM OF THE REFORM OF THE SACRED LITURGY after many so called experts of the Liturgy immediately after the Second Vatican Council shrewdly shifted the focus of the Liturgy to man instead of God. The First Commandment of God is: “You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve” (CCC 2084; Ex 20:2-5; Deut 5:6-9). The Vatican’s chief exorcist, Father Gabriele Amorth, in an interview of 2001, said: “The Second Vatican Council asked that some texts be revised. Disobeying this command, they set about re-writing them completely with no thought for the danger of making things worse instead of better. So many rites came off badly from this mania to throw out the old and start from scratch, as if the Church to date had always conned us and as if only now the time had at last come of the great geniuses, the super theologians, the super-biblists and the super-liturgists who know what the right thing is for the Church. This is a lie: the last Council simply asked that the texts be revised, not destroyed.” (http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=2879; http://www.vaticans.org/index.php?/archives/61-An-interview-with-the-Vaticans-chief-excorcist,-Father-Gabriele.html).

TO FIGHT IN A BATTLE, IS IT NOT PRUDENT AND NECESSARY TO KNOW NOT ONLY YOUR OWN WEAPONS, TACTICS AND STRATEGY BUT ALSO THE WEAPONS, TACTICS AND STRATEGY OF THE ENEMY? It was recounted to Pope John Paul II that the Vatican’s chief exorcist, Father Gabriele Amorth, “knows too many bishops who do not believe in the Devil”. The Pope replied bluntly: “ANYONE WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE DEVIL DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE GOSPEL”. When asked “What do you see as Satan’s greatest success?”, Amorth replied: “The fact that he has managed to convince people that he does not exist. He has almost managed it, even within the Church. We have a clergy and an Episcopate who no longer believe in the Devil , in exorcism, in the exceptional evil the Devil can instill, or even in the power that Jesus bestowed to cast out demons. … And they no longer believe in the Devil. We have entire Episcopates trying to counter exorcism. We have countries completely devoid of exorcists, such as Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Spain and Portugal. This is a shameful shortfall.”; (http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=2879; http://www.vaticans.org/index.php?/archives/61-An-interview-with-the-Vaticans-chief-excorcist,-Father-Gabriele.html).


29 posted on 11/10/2013 11:19:41 AM PST by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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To: bdfromlv

The fact is that we do know those secrets and how the higher-ups truly despise Catholicism.

One of my friends caught one of the stealing a host at a weekday Mass and went to his home to retrieve it.

Just a glimpse of one of their secrets.


30 posted on 11/10/2013 11:20:15 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 'smith

And many Catholics have realized this sin and confessed it — along with the secrets of Masonic temples.


31 posted on 11/10/2013 11:21:06 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JosephJames

Sounds like something that would come from Most Holy Family Manastery, Fillmore, NY by the Dimond brothers. I have some of their DVDs, especially one on the Masons. I didn’t know you could be a Mason and also become a Roman Catholic.


32 posted on 11/10/2013 11:23:05 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: JosephJames

Monastery (error, sorry)


33 posted on 11/10/2013 11:24:38 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: CodeToad

You think they are going to come right out and say so


34 posted on 11/10/2013 11:28:39 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Salvation

Did he get it back?


35 posted on 11/10/2013 11:30:17 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

yes, the guy had brought a Bible up to receive Communion and put the consecrated host in the Bible.


36 posted on 11/10/2013 11:31:10 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

you mean instead of putting it in his mouth he put it in his Bible?

God? Jesus?

unbelievable

I find it incredible that Freemasons have all these apologists

you clearly cannot be Catholic and be a Freemason and that has been clear for centuries


37 posted on 11/10/2013 11:33:19 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

**you mean instead of putting it in his mouth he put it in his Bible?**

Yes!

Our priest has also chased down someone. This incident was an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion.


38 posted on 11/10/2013 11:35:06 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Ransomed

OK.....where is the “Geez, not this sh*t again” guy?


39 posted on 11/10/2013 11:38:50 AM PST by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: bdfromlv

Just why is that eye staring at you from the dollar bill?


40 posted on 11/10/2013 11:39:29 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: JosephJames

This discussion is just like a liberal telling a conservative what that conservative believes. An opinion based on ignorance is worthless.


41 posted on 11/10/2013 11:41:08 AM PST by 'smith
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To: JosephJames

I joined the Masons back in the early seventies but woke up and got out.

That has been a few years ago but i think they accepted all religions which would include satanism so what would they believe? nothing except power and that not being the power of God.


42 posted on 11/10/2013 11:43:20 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: CodeToad

Have you read the Book “Morals and Dogma” which is considered to be the “bible” of Freemasonry? If so, how do you know it’s not a religion based on Satan? I am not a mason, but have read a copy.

It removed all doubt for me.

Does that mean every mason knows this? No. Some are “hoodwinked”. Which by the way, is a masonic term as well.


43 posted on 11/10/2013 11:46:00 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: JosephJames
A French priest who has renounced his membership of Freemasonry, announced this Masonic plan that he followed when he was part of the sect. As we have received this document so we publish it, asking our readers to offer on this point, a contribution of discernment and further documentation. Directives of the Grand Master of the Masons to the Catholic Bishops, effective since 1962. (Updating of Vatican II). All mason brethren will have to report on the progress of these crucial provisions. Revised in October 1993 as a progressive plan for the final stage. All Masons employed in the Church must welcome them and carry them out.

This should be entertaining. Ping for later

44 posted on 11/10/2013 11:52:26 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Salvation
The fraternity allows catholics to be members if they wish, however the catholics will not allow catholics to become masons. so who has the problem? by host do you mean cracker or something else. Could it be he was hungry. or was he going to use them in a spell with his coven. the fraternity doesn't debate politics or religion. get out the roll of 4mm foil or your glasses will steam up.
45 posted on 11/10/2013 11:53:00 AM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: JosephJames

Didn’t much of this happen already via Vatican II?


46 posted on 11/10/2013 11:55:13 AM PST by piusv
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To: Hacksaw; Iscool
I don’t see you apologizing for Protestants such as Barak Obama, Jesse Jackson, or Bill Clinton. It is comical. Keep your own side of the street clean first, sport.

Which side of the street is Obama on? And who voted for him in overwhelming numbers?

A Troubling Question About Obama's Religion: Is He a Covert Catholic?
Obama's Devotion to the Virgin Mary: Who Knew?
Is Obama Thinking Like a Catholic?
Obama's Catholic backers

47 posted on 11/10/2013 11:55:30 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: BereanBrain

Morals and Dogma is by no means considered the “bible” of Freemasonry. It’s one man’s opinions (who considered himself a Christian, though likely an unorthodox one). Very few masons have ever even seen a copy, much less read it or understood it. This is likely to which you refer: http://www.masonicinfo.com/lucifer.htm

As to the original post (assuming it’s true, to which I have extreme doubts), it sounds like the disgruntled ramblings of one individual. Furthermore, Freemasonry in France is a jumbled mess of organizations, “Masonic,” pseudo-Masonic, and other groups- most of which are not recognized as being legitimate by any other group. I would not be surprised if this “Mason” would not be welcome in any Masonic Lodge in the world outside of his own little circle.


48 posted on 11/10/2013 11:57:58 AM PST by CraigEsq
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To: Alex Murphy

Sure, because we ALL believe what MooseChelle tells us, right?


49 posted on 11/10/2013 11:59:01 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: Alex Murphy

Jews did Alex. But I know you don’t want to go there. I also saw that you also didn’t apologize for Barak Obama, Jesse Jackson and bill Clinton in your failed ‘save’. I also think debate by hyperlink is the modus of the intellectual lightweight.


50 posted on 11/10/2013 12:00:16 PM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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