Skip to comments.Flurry of Vatican-Russian Orthodox Talks Precede Putin Visit to Pope Francis
Posted on 11/12/2013 7:01:10 PM PST by marshmallow
VATICAN CITY Pope Francis has met with the foreign minister of the Russian Orthodox Church ahead of a Nov. 25 visit to the Vatican by President Vladimir Putin.
The Vatican released no details of Tuesdays meeting with Metropolitan Hilarion, in Rome for a Catholic-Orthodox conference on family values.
Simultaneously in Moscow, a top Italian cardinal involved in Catholic-Orthodox dialogue, Cardinal Angelo Scola, met with the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill.
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The Russian Orthodoxy never did reunite. I wonder if this is the opening of reunification...
There remain any number of quite significant differences between the Orthodox churches and the Roman Catholic Church.
cloud, hope for Church unity is important ... first step ... but 85 other steps need to follow.
Why? The Catholics & Orthodox cannot recognize a unity that does not exist. And nobody is going to change their religious dogma unless their beliefs have really changed.
yes, this is important.
Yes, it is VERY important.
Do you think that our Lord would want all of us to re-unite into one Church? Be one with Him? What do you think?
Better to have hope, yes. I won't be alive to see it, though. But that's okay. Things like that seem to happen in terms of decades. Perhaps a beginning, an opening of a window. Who knows. Prayers for unity have been recited for a l-o-n-g time.
I wasn't aware of dogmatic issues. But, I'm too tired now to think about it now. TOMORROW my brain will be able to cope with it, but not tonight.
It's way too much to absorb. I will leave it to the doctors of the various churches. They have made it their life's study and work. But I saw one vaguely remembered term, "filoque," for one, and my brain shut down from fatigue. TOMORROW!
These are my opinions. I'm mlost likely over-simplifying things.
Russia has taken over the protection of Christians and Christianity in the world. The other thing they’ve taken over is professional boxing. Anybody other than me see that Golovkin/Stevens fight the other night??
Yep.........you’re right on both counts.
My mother became an attorney late in life. She had some interesting comments. One was people will fight over everything, anything, ESPECIALLY divorcing couples and families.
Her great aunt and her divorcing husband FOUGHT over who got custody of the bird.
Also, some people HAVE to be right, no matter what.
Sometimes, in religion, particularly, fighting is more an emotional reaction than anything else. Why I would get my shorts bunched up (a guy’s phrase, but SO appropriate) for something like how “filoque” got added to the creed is beyond me. Who cares? Especially after SO long a time since Jesus graced our earth with His presence.
Sometimes I think it’s 99% ego more than anything else.
The Orthodox decision to split based upon how to express belief in a sacred mystery, the Trinity, was very unfortunate. The punishment for that was St. Thomas Aquinas. The decision to split based upon where the center of civilization had shifted was motivated by pride. The Office of the Bishop of Rome is just an office, however with that office comes authority and infallibility, per Jesus’ command. It would be better if the Church breathed with both lungs. As we watch the resurgence of Christianity in Russia we wonder if this was what was meant by the Conversion of Russia and the beginning of the triumph of the Immaculate Heart?
Thank you both for your thoughtful replies.