Skip to comments.Catholics Will Likely Relive Past Persecutions
Posted on 11/14/2013 5:26:25 PM PST by NKP_Vet
Man is a social being and doesnt invent his own world. To orient himself and understand what his life is about he has to find his proper place, which is an order of things where he can feel at home and to which he can give undivided allegiance.
To deserve that allegiance the order of things must include ordinary human connections but also transcend them, so that it supports all things necessary for mans well-being. Our ideal as Christians is thus a social world that encompasses everyday life but is oriented toward God and the good, beautiful, and true in all its aspects. In our time the phrases culture of life and civilization of love have been used to refer to basic aspects of such a world, but Christendom seems the best name for it overall.
The ideal is of course impossible to achieve perfectly in this world. That would be the Kingdom of God on earth, which wont be fully with us until the Second Coming. Still, the Lords Prayer has to do with the present as well as a future that may be very distant, so the coming of the Kingdom and the realization of Gods will on earth are with us even today. And in any event we must find some way to live here and now. As social beings we must live with others, and as Christians we must live with God, so the question of the connections, loyalties, and obligations by which we should live always has some sort of answer.
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"Blessed are those who suffer persecution in the cause of right; the kingdom of heaven is theirs. Blessed are you, when men revile you, and persecute you, and speak all manner of evil against you falsely, because of me" ~ Matthew 5:10-11
You have to ask yourself,
“How much persecution can be imposed while the electorate remain armed?”
“Who will stand and fight, while we’re still able?”
Given the muted response I'd bet there are already lists being made of which parish Churches will be wrapped in "Police Line - Do Not Cross" tape and all the useful idiots are being primed for their, "why do they need a building anyway" posts.
Realtors who donated to King Barry will no doubt soon be drooling over the property Catholic Churches non-Catholic "good Christians" say are superfluous sit on and lining up for the good deals Barry will shower on them.
Easily distracted short memory Americans stood by and let the government pass out thinly veiled Titles of Nobility and the nobility is being rewarded with auto manufacturers, huge subsidies for alternative energy Potemkin Villages, and soon with select properties taken from Catholics who refuse to accept the Purpose Driven doctrine of "go along to get along".
ALL military chaplains were affected by the two week shutdown - not just Catholic priests - and Congress passed a bill:
The Senate backed a version of the measure late Thursday. The version expressed the sense of Congress that chaplains should continue offering their services to members of the military and their families, and it had already passed the House.
Slight changes to the House measure were made by Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin of Michigan. Levin added a provision expressing Congress' hope that the defense secretary could figure out how to pay contractor clergy.
Due to the changes, the bill must go back to the House.
Lawmakers were concerned that the shutdown could disrupt religious services. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/11/military-chaplains-government-shutdown_n_4086032.html)
My feeling is that, as the ENTIRE ruling segment of this country grows more and more secular and resistant to any moral authority above themselves, we will see ALL of Christendom threatened and persecuted. Jesus said it would happen and we should expect it. It doesn't mean we shouldn't do all we can to resist that evil force and continue to speak the truth in love with gentleness and respect.
It may very well be that Christians will once again experience the same level of persecution and violence meted out by an ungodly ruler like the first century believers did - though some living today HAVE been living under that threat all their lives (like in the Muslim and Communist countries). Jesus said we should rejoice and be exceedingly glad because it means our redemption is drawing nigh.
Not so or at least not so on all bases.
Active duty Chaplins continued to hold services and from that perspective I would say even active duty Catholic priests were permitted to hold Mass. I can't find any non-Catholic contractors who were told to not hold services or any articles about active duty Catholic Chaplins told not to hold services.
Is it persecution if it's provoked?
Some bases only have contract chaplains and if you happened to be Catholic contract priest you were sent home. There was no Mass at these bases because Obama’s goons threatened Catholic chaplains with jail if they held Mass. No protestant services were disrupted. And by the way these Catholic contract chaplains work for no pay. So none of it made any sense, other than the muslim-in-chief wanting to once more piss off the Catholic Church.
That's the King Barry point of view.
It's nice to see those who believe in the right of the king to rule contrary to the Constitution come out and admit they side with the king rather than the Constitution.
I can’t find a case of a contract Chaplin who was not Catholic not being able to hold services. Have you heard of that happening?
No, it didn’t happen. Only Catholic contract chaplains.
Lex rex baby! Lex rex!
A Protestant's identification with/membership in his church is granted by subjection and adherence to a predefined formal confession or creed (i.e. the Bible, the Westminster Confession, Heidelberg Catechism, etc). The Catholic version has all members being ultimately subject to a person or an office (i.e. the Pope, Archbishop, etc). Reformed Protestants are ruled by God's Word (sometimes encapsulated in a Creed or Confession for ease of dissemination). Catholics are ruled by God's Vicar.
Consider that the United States of America was formed as a government ruled over by a confessional standard, not ruled by an office or a person. Even our President is supposed to be subject to this external, written standard, i.e. is subject to Witherspoon's axiom "Lex Rex" (the Law is King). This is why oaths are sworn to obey and protect the 'standard' (i.e. defend the Constitution), and not to obey and protect the President. The President's authority comes from the Constitution; it is not independently possessed. The President of the United States therefore, nor any other branch of the United States government, does not have the authority to govern apart from, or in opposition to, the United States Constitution.
Unlike many FRoman Catholics, I have no love nor desire for a monarchy in this country, or in any other. As I've said before, I believe that a functional, constitutional representative republic is the best form of government over any country, at any time . I'd like to see a few more Catholics joining me in making that statement.
This First Amendment?
"Many people feel that censorship is a violation of Freedom of Speech. Bull feathers!
Censorship is NOT unconstitutional. Censors have the right to censor what you hear. The Bill of Rights says nothing about Freedom of Hearing. This, of course, takes a lot of the fun out of the Freedom of Speech. Ha ha ha....
....There is nothing in the Bill of Rights about Freedom of Seeing. You can look for it, but if you see it, you'd better not show it to anybody. Therefore, censorship does not interfere with the constitutional right of every American to sit alone, in the dark, in the nude, and cuss."
-- Pat Paulsen, on Censorship, January 7, 1968
I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, never retracted that oath, have never whined because living up to that oath cost me dearly, and given my Honorable discharge from the Corps they had no complaints.
If some twit thinks my being Catholic is somehow in conflict with my support for the Constitution it's just proof for the Calvinist crowd that God Almighty predestined that twit to be a drooling idiot serving Satan by being dedicated spreading divisions among Christians.
For we Catholics it's proof said twit is actively resisting the grace God makes freely available even to ardent anti-Christian fools intent on helping the fascist Democrats keep Christians from uniting to resist them.