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The Beautiful Story of how Kirsten Powers Found Jesus. What’s Your Story?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | November 11 2013 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 11/16/2013 12:00:15 AM PST by GonzoII

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Last Week I wrote my testimony of meeting Jesus on a fateful day in November of 1995 (HERE). I have also written of the need that Christians have to better witness in a personal way to the faith, and to the relationship they have with the Lord.

The other day I read a beautiful conversion story, a witness story of a woman I have long admired, Kirsten Powers. She is a Fox News Commentator. And while I do not always agree with her political perspectives, she is a solid journalist, she gives fair consideration to all issues, and is, to my mind, a very classy lady.

She wrote recently in Christianity Today of how she met Jesus. I would like to share some excerpts of the story with you here so that, once again, you and all of us who are Catholics can see modeled how to tell our own particular story o faith, and what witness looks and sounds like.

Her full article is here: Kirsten Powers and how She Met Jesus What follows here are just a few excerpts with some comments by me in red text:

Just seven years ago, if someone had told me that I’d be writing for Christianity Today magazine about how I came to believe in God, I would have laughed out loud. If there was one thing in which I was completely secure, it was that I would never adhere to any religion—especially to evangelical Christianity, which I held in particular contempt.

And thus we learn to stay in the conversation with people. There was a time in my life that I too was hostile to the Church and hostile to Jesus. No one, no matter how settled they think they are in opposition to God or the Church is a lost cause. Speak the truth, with charity and clarity. You just never know when or how, but some, indeed, more than some, eventually find the Lord. Thank you Jesus!

I grew up in the Episcopal Church in Alaska, but my belief was superficial and flimsy….

Yes, some of us are in reaction to a poor experience with faith growing up. Perhaps it was perfunctory observance, perhaps we even experienced painful realities in the Church. But often such struggles send us afar. But in the end, the Lord does not cease to call, and He can even work the miracle of helping us to overcome tepid, bad or painful experiences.

Ms. Powers goes on to talk of how she began to date an Evangelical Christian who invited her to his Church and asked her to keep an open mind. She began attending Upper East Side Redeemer Presbyterian Church, an Evangelical Presbyterian Church. The Pastor Tim Keller impressed her with his thoughtful preaching. She says,

Tim Keller’s sermon was intellectually rigorous, weaving in art and history and philosophy. I decided to come back to hear him again. Soon, hearing Keller speak on Sunday became the highlight of my week. Each week, Keller made the case for Christianity. He also made the case against atheism and agnosticism. He expertly exposed the intellectual weaknesses of a purely secular worldview. I came to realize that even if Christianity wasn’t the real thing, neither was atheism.

So faith comes by hearing. The preaching task is critical. Pray that the Lord will send laborers, effective preachers and teachers to clarify doubts and sow the seeds of truth. Scripture says, How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?…As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”…So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.(Rom 10:14-15, 17). Yes, pray for good and effective preaching and teaching!

She adds,

I concluded that the weight of evidence was on the side of Christianity. But I didn’t feel any connection to God.

But someone must have praying for Kirsten. For soon enough, she met Jesus:

Then one night in 2006, on a trip to Taiwan, I woke up in what felt like a strange cross between a dream and reality. Jesus came to me and said, “Here I am.” It felt so real. I didn’t know what to make of it.

Hallelujah! Someone was praying. Thank you Jesus.

I tried to write off the experience as misfiring synapses, but I couldn’t shake it. When I returned to New York a few days later, I was lost. I suddenly felt God everywhere and it was terrifying. More important, it was unwelcome. It felt like an invasion. I started to fear I was going crazy….I was desperate. My whole world was imploding. How was I going to tell my family or friends about what had happened? Nobody would understand. I didn’t understand.

It is interesting. Not everyone has an experience with the Lord and comes away serene. In fact most Theophanies in the Bible leave the recipient disconcerted, sometimes flat on their face to the ground! Yes, even Mother Mary was “troubled” at the visit of Gabriel (Lk 1:29), and even John the Evangelist who had been so close to the Lord in his earthly ministry, fell on his face to the ground when he saw Jesus in glory (Rev 1:17). There is authenticity in Ms. Power’s description of distress. It makes sense given her background of skepticism, but also makes sense given the Glory of the Lord.

She sought explanation by attending a Bible study, but in the end, the Lord connected the dots for her:

Everything had changed. I’ll never forget standing outside that apartment on the Upper East Side and saying to myself, “It’s true. It’s completely true.” The world looked entirely different, like a veil had been lifted off it. I had not an iota of doubt. I was filled with indescribable joy.

But surely the World, the Flesh and Devil would not take this sitting down! She writes:

The horror of the prospect of being a devout Christian crept back in almost immediately. I spent the next few months doing my best to wrestle away from God. It was pointless. Everywhere I turned, there he was. Slowly there was less fear and more joy. The Hound of Heaven had pursued me and caught me—whether I liked it or not.

Yes, The Lord has won. And I pray that Kirsten Powers will grow strong in faith and deep in conviction that Jesus is Lord and the lover of her soul.

“But Father, but Father….!” I hear some of you saying, “She did not become Catholic! How can we praise this!?” Well, all I know is that we are all on a journey. And the Lord has surely led some of the best Catholics through the Evangelical denominations ultimately to the Catholic Church.

And I will add that their time there (in the Evangelical denominations) was not a detour or wasted. In fact some of the greatest converts to the Catholic Church bring many gifts from their time as Evangelicals: Love for Jesus, the understanding of a personal and intimate walk with the Lord, a love for Scripture, and a zeal for souls.

At a personal level I would love for Ms. Powers to one day find herself in full union with the Catholic Church. For now I am joyful she found Jesus and I trust Jesus to lead her. Rejoice with me, rejoice with her, Jesus is joy, he is Lord and Shepherd. He shepherds us rightly.

But Father, But Father, as a democrat, what does she think of abortion? As far as I know, she is against it. Consider what she has written HERE and HERE or HERE And and if you wish she were clearer here or there about this or that, stay in the conversation. Amor omnia vincet.

I rejoice that Kirsten Powers has met Jesus. I rejoice I have met him. How about you? What is your story? See her testimony as model and write your own. Your children and grandchildren, your friends and others are desperate to hear it!



TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant
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819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth"273 are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements.274 Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him,275 and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity."276

838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."322 Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church."323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound "that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord's Eucharist."324

273 LG 8 § 2.
274 UR 3 § 2; cf. LG 15.
275 Cf. UR 3.
276 Cf. LG 8.
322 LG 15.
323 UR 3.
324 Paul VI, Discourse, December 14, 1975; cf. UR 13-18.

1 posted on 11/16/2013 12:00:15 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

I often wonder how many people on here are in a situation where they were not raised in a family that truly followed God - and if they ever wondered how fundamentally different they would be if they were raised from birth in a family that truly followed God. I am I suppose coming around to it but trying to figure out why He left me to my own devices for so many years and never bothered to even let me know I should be looking for Him. But I suppose I’ll find out eventually.


2 posted on 11/16/2013 12:07:09 AM PST by freedom462
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To: freedom462

He left you to your own free will. I accepted Christ at 27. Doing my own thing creating my own Empire on my terms, because thats what humans do. We are driven to whatever with the personality HE even gave us.

By the Grace of God, one day I had ruined my life so badly I was ready to give up.

It was that point when I cried out to God. Hey God do you really exist? If so I think I need help. It was that week when someone witnessed to me and I accpted Christ.

I grew up in Catholic school my whole life, but did not get it. I thank God for His Grace Mercy and Wisdom that leads me on..................


3 posted on 11/16/2013 12:22:35 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the AmeriHealth BenefitsOn this pacan Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: GonzoII

I read the linked article. Thanks very much for this posting. She’s one of the most honest democrats. I look for her to leave the democrat party once she completes her growing up process.


4 posted on 11/16/2013 12:39:38 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Mountain Mary; MinuteGal

Ping (???)


5 posted on 11/16/2013 1:15:01 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: onyx
"Thanks very much for this posting."

You're welcome.

6 posted on 11/16/2013 1:15:06 AM PST by GonzoII (Ted Cruz/Susana Martinez 2016)
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To: onyx

Good for her! This is a heartwarming story. I knew there was something I kind of liked about her, even though she was a Dem she didn’t seem as arrogant and blind as most of them.


7 posted on 11/16/2013 1:21:18 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: kelly4c

I do not understand how a democrat can call themselves a Christian, when it is their party that favors infanticide.

Sorry, I’m kinda binary that way.


8 posted on 11/16/2013 1:33:14 AM PST by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings (FL-20))
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To: GonzoII

How we are raised so shapes us.

Devout Catholic or Baptist....at least something non ambiguous and solid

Its rare for an apathetic agnostic raised in church-lite to just get transformed like she did

Most stay agnostic till death approaches


9 posted on 11/16/2013 1:45:17 AM PST by wardaddy (we have their bare throats....no time to go wobbly.....destroy them)
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To: GonzoII

She is also fetching.

Hard not to notice

I do have a hard time reconciling how someone can believe in Christ and not be solidly anti abortion

Still time for her


10 posted on 11/16/2013 1:47:24 AM PST by wardaddy (we have their bare throats....no time to go wobbly.....destroy them)
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To: kelly4c

Yes, I agree. I like her, too.
I think she will come around in time.


11 posted on 11/16/2013 1:51:38 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

ITA Give her time and patience. She’s a work in progress, like all of us.


12 posted on 11/16/2013 1:58:01 AM PST by bonfire
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To: wardaddy
"She is also fetching."

A charming distraction to say the least.

13 posted on 11/16/2013 2:00:09 AM PST by GonzoII (Ted Cruz/Susana Martinez 2016)
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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy

Hey, this is interesting. Kirsten Powers apparently is attending Dr. Keller’s church.


14 posted on 11/16/2013 2:21:33 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: GonzoII

I grew up in the Episcopal church and was senior warden of the oldest Episcopal church in west Tennessee (1832).
I left when the gays took over the Episcopal Church USA.
When in Slovakia, I attended a Catholic church on occasion, and here in the Philippines, it is Catholic all the way.
My son was baptized in the 200+ year old church here in Dalaguete, Cebu.


15 posted on 11/16/2013 2:27:57 AM PST by AlexW
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To: GonzoII
838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."

Dogmas of the Catholic Church:


16 posted on 11/16/2013 2:29:28 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: onyx

I think she is a very very naïve little girl on a lot of issues, although when sh spoke clearly about her feelings about abortion the other day, taking sides with the conservative Fox ladies, I thought I was hearing it from a twin and not her.

I agree, there is a conservative under that skin, problem is....she is a staunch...staunch...staunch...believer in Hillary.

Which makes me wonder, Kirsten..let’s put you to the test. Abortion seems to be the left’s single most important issue...Why then...do you, a self proclaimed Christian, support candidates who are not only pro choice, but who believe in abortion on demand, at any time?

I love your story...at times I like what you say, but all in all until you can come to grips with the reality of where you are politically, I’d say you’re not being honest.

In my opinion, Kirsten resembles the Reagan democrat. I just find it hard to believe that she is that liberal and agree with you that she will come around.

I enjoy listening to her take on some issue, then Charles follows, and it’s usually always 180 degrees different and right on the money. In short, she’s really not all that smart. Her commentary is superficial, except for abortion, she is clear as a bell, and brings up things that give me hope.

While we are on the subject, Juan Williams of late has turned into complete jerk, Beckel too, but I’m wondering if the director of these shows push that.


17 posted on 11/16/2013 2:46:02 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: wardaddy

REad my last post. She is solidly, I mean solidly anti abortion. To the point that I really cannot understand why she doesn’t embrace a candidate like Ted Cruz or Sarah.

I would rejoice if she were to remain democrat, liberal whatever, but come out Against Hillary, and for the conservative pro life candidate in the coming elections.


18 posted on 11/16/2013 2:52:43 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: freedom462

I have only one negative about the article. Seem like the writer, in subtext, is saying “Kirsten, you’ve come a long way, and I’m proud of you, but eventually you MUST be Catholic to be truly a Christian.”


19 posted on 11/16/2013 2:54:36 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: onyx

BTW, you’re clearly an early bird like me...Which was great when TEd CRuz was doing his marathon talk.


20 posted on 11/16/2013 2:56:21 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: freedom462
I have looked for God every where. In nature in science in crowds of people. Yet I have never seen or felt a trace. Perhaps I am not looking hard enough. Or perhaps as I suspect he is not there to find.
21 posted on 11/16/2013 3:23:30 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: HarleyD
"20. Membership of the Catholic Church is necessary for all men for salvation."

You are correct, Harley, that is what every authentic christian baptism does:

838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."

22 posted on 11/16/2013 3:24:44 AM PST by GonzoII (Ted Cruz/Susana Martinez 2016)
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To: AlexW
"here in the Philippines"

Hope you are doing well there.

23 posted on 11/16/2013 3:27:52 AM PST by GonzoII (Ted Cruz/Susana Martinez 2016)
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To: GonzoII

“Hope you are doing well there.”
____________________________________________
We are doing great...could not be happier. Thank you.


24 posted on 11/16/2013 3:29:34 AM PST by AlexW
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To: BigCinBigD

“I have looked for God every where. In nature in science in crowds of people. Yet I have never seen or felt a trace. Perhaps I am not looking hard enough. Or perhaps as I suspect he is not there to find.”

Frequently pride is an effective barrier to grace.


25 posted on 11/16/2013 3:48:51 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: BigCinBigD

You don’t have to look hard........His creation is everywhere!......You just don’t want to acknowledge Him as Creator.......
He created you


26 posted on 11/16/2013 4:22:12 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: bicyclerepair

I’d give Kirsten Powers some time on that. She’s a new Christian and still processing things. Last year, she spoke on Fox about how misled most Americans are about late abortion. She said that most people wrongly believe abortion is only legal in the first trimester, but that it is actually legal up until the moment of birth. It took guts for a Dem and a woman to point that out.


27 posted on 11/16/2013 4:29:49 AM PST by utahagen
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To: HarleyD
20. Membership of the Catholic Church is necessary for all men for salvation.

I'm sure glad that Jesus Christ didn't make that a requirement for my salvation.

28 posted on 11/16/2013 4:52:48 AM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: HarleyD
Yup.

I have attended Redeemer several times. He catches a lot of flack from some Reformed folk, but the sermons are Christ centered and delivered in a way that gets the attention of the prodigal. Service does not follow the regulative priciple, nor is it seeker sensitive

I once heard him say, in a sermon, that those who move away from home to NY are all prodigals. Probably 1/2 of the congregation meets that definition. He clearly ministers to them.

29 posted on 11/16/2013 5:59:07 AM PST by Gamecock (If you have to be One,be a Big Red One.)
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To: freedom462
I often wonder how many people on here are in a situation where they were not raised in a family that truly followed God - and if they ever wondered how fundamentally different they would be if they were raised from birth in a family that truly followed God.

While my parents do believe in God in vague, "I guess there's something there" way, I was never exposed to religion as a child beyond a desultory few weeks spent going to Sunday School. The teacher asked my parents to remove me from the class because I was asking to many "awkward" questions.

By my teens I was an agnostic, and by young adulthood an atheist...and have been ever since. Had I been raised in a family with a strong religious background, it's certainly more likely that I would now believe in such things, but of course there's no way to know. Nurture vs nature and all that.

30 posted on 11/16/2013 6:06:03 AM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: BigCinBigD

Looking may not be enough. You also have ears to hear. What you need is an open mind to the mystery of the universe and its Creator. Look at the sky on a clear night and see the stars, the moon, and the approaching comet ISON. Then ponder how it all came about and why.

I hope you keep looking. May God bless you.


31 posted on 11/16/2013 6:06:33 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Kip Russell

While my parents do believe in God in vague, “I guess there’s something there” way, I was never exposed to religion as a child beyond a desultory few weeks spent going to Sunday School.


I think my folks may have believed in God if they would have been asked, but i was only in Church twice until i was in my mid 30s and that was to visit friends.

I got threw in jail several times when 15 and 16, they always said i would never get out, but some how they always let me out after i had eaten.

I was in my thirties before it slowly occurred to me that putting me in jail was mostly just a way to feed me.

I started reading the Bible to prove that Jesus was nothing but a hippie of his day and read the scriptures

Mathew 37 to 40
37
“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink?

38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You?

39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’

40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’

It took a long time but it finally registered in my mind that the above is what real believers do, there are these kind of people in any Church or no Church, the kingdom of God is within you.

In good times it is hard to separate the sheep from the goats but in bad times the sheep shine out like a lamp in the night.


32 posted on 11/16/2013 7:22:47 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: GonzoII
322 Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.

How can a person find Jesus Christ without the Catholic Church???

This must be confusing for many Catholics...Especially those who have been lifelong Catholics and never experienced a personal relationship with Jesus as this lady has... And while the above statement may be true, this one is certainly true:

Those who believe in Christ are put in a certain, perfect communion with Jesus Christ...

As a Christian she is now indwelt by Jesus Christ, 24/7; something most Catholics admittedly never achieve...You can bet this lady knows she needs no communion with the Catholic religion to be an adopted child of God and perfect communion with him...

Rom_8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

And how do we know this to be true???

Rom_8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

All born again Christians are in full communion with Jesus Christ regardless of their chosen denomination whether it be Catholic, Orthodox or any other...

33 posted on 11/16/2013 7:40:45 AM PST by Iscool
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To: wardaddy
Its rare for an apathetic agnostic raised in church-lite to just get transformed like she did

It's not all that rare outside of the Catholic religion...

34 posted on 11/16/2013 7:42:20 AM PST by Iscool
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To: HarleyD

Don’t you think it would make more sense to quote the CCC than some random website no Catholic here has probably ever heard of?

This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation. (CCC 847)

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. (CCC 846)


35 posted on 11/16/2013 8:46:20 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: GonzoII

I wonder how she balances abortion and the atheism of her Party and Jesus?

Pray for Kirsten


37 posted on 11/16/2013 9:05:17 AM PST by bray (Delay Obamacare)
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To: utahagen
I’d give Kirsten Powers some time on that. She’s a new Christian and still processing things.

Some people said the same thing about Jane Fonda's fake conversion. As long as she keeps bearing false witness about Republicans, I don't buy it.

38 posted on 11/16/2013 9:16:29 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: utahagen

I don’t know how a democrat can walk in the front door of a Church without smoke coming out their ears.


39 posted on 11/16/2013 9:45:18 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: GonzoII; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; CynicalBear; ...
And I will add that their time there (in the Evangelical denominations) was not a detour or wasted. In fact some of the greatest converts to the Catholic Church bring many gifts from their time as Evangelicals: Love for Jesus, the understanding of a personal and intimate walk with the Lord, a love for Scripture, and a zeal for souls.

Interesting.......

And the rest of us are being castigated for what again?????

40 posted on 11/16/2013 10:46:44 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: bicyclerepair

Give her time. The Holy Spirit will convict her. Maturity is a process.


41 posted on 11/16/2013 10:48:33 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom

for being infidels I think


42 posted on 11/16/2013 10:50:05 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

I guess it depends on the Catholic doing the talking.


43 posted on 11/16/2013 10:52:52 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom
"And I will add that their time there (in the Evangelical denominations) was not a detour or wasted. In fact some of the greatest converts to the Catholic Church bring many gifts from their time as Evangelicals: Love for Jesus, the understanding of a personal and intimate walk with the Lord, a love for Scripture, and a zeal for souls. Interesting......."

And the rest of us are being castigated for what again?????"

No, the rest of us are like John's audience I Jn 2:19. "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us." The believers elected by Jesus remain in truth...some of the rest end up in the RCC.

44 posted on 11/16/2013 11:03:54 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: metmom

Simple.

Protestants rejoice when someone comes to Christ.

Catholics are bitter if they have the nerve to pick anything other than Rome.


45 posted on 11/16/2013 12:13:03 PM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: Gamecock

Revealing, isn’t it?

Goes to show who’s trusting what.


46 posted on 11/16/2013 12:24:30 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: wardaddy
.. “Still time for her” <<

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Kirsten Powers: The Stunning Ignorance of Abortion Cheerleader Wendy Davis

47 posted on 11/16/2013 12:32:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: metmom; Gamecock

Catholics worship their church, Protestants worship Yeshua.


48 posted on 11/16/2013 12:35:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Catholics believe their salvation is through their church.

Christians know their salvation is through their Savior.

There is no other name under heaven by which we must be saved; said by Peter, the guy they claim is their first pope.


49 posted on 11/16/2013 12:40:31 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom

...who was married BTW.


50 posted on 11/16/2013 12:43:50 PM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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