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819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth"273 are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements.274 Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him,275 and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity."276

838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."322 Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church."323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound "that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord's Eucharist."324

273 LG 8 § 2.
274 UR 3 § 2; cf. LG 15.
275 Cf. UR 3.
276 Cf. LG 8.
322 LG 15.
323 UR 3.
324 Paul VI, Discourse, December 14, 1975; cf. UR 13-18.

1 posted on 11/16/2013 12:00:15 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

I often wonder how many people on here are in a situation where they were not raised in a family that truly followed God - and if they ever wondered how fundamentally different they would be if they were raised from birth in a family that truly followed God. I am I suppose coming around to it but trying to figure out why He left me to my own devices for so many years and never bothered to even let me know I should be looking for Him. But I suppose I’ll find out eventually.


2 posted on 11/16/2013 12:07:09 AM PST by freedom462
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To: GonzoII

I read the linked article. Thanks very much for this posting. She’s one of the most honest democrats. I look for her to leave the democrat party once she completes her growing up process.


4 posted on 11/16/2013 12:39:38 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Mountain Mary; MinuteGal

Ping (???)


5 posted on 11/16/2013 1:15:01 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GonzoII

How we are raised so shapes us.

Devout Catholic or Baptist....at least something non ambiguous and solid

Its rare for an apathetic agnostic raised in church-lite to just get transformed like she did

Most stay agnostic till death approaches


9 posted on 11/16/2013 1:45:17 AM PST by wardaddy (we have their bare throats....no time to go wobbly.....destroy them)
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To: GonzoII

She is also fetching.

Hard not to notice

I do have a hard time reconciling how someone can believe in Christ and not be solidly anti abortion

Still time for her


10 posted on 11/16/2013 1:47:24 AM PST by wardaddy (we have their bare throats....no time to go wobbly.....destroy them)
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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy

Hey, this is interesting. Kirsten Powers apparently is attending Dr. Keller’s church.


14 posted on 11/16/2013 2:21:33 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: GonzoII

I grew up in the Episcopal church and was senior warden of the oldest Episcopal church in west Tennessee (1832).
I left when the gays took over the Episcopal Church USA.
When in Slovakia, I attended a Catholic church on occasion, and here in the Philippines, it is Catholic all the way.
My son was baptized in the 200+ year old church here in Dalaguete, Cebu.


15 posted on 11/16/2013 2:27:57 AM PST by AlexW
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To: GonzoII
838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."

Dogmas of the Catholic Church:


16 posted on 11/16/2013 2:29:28 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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322 Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.

How can a person find Jesus Christ without the Catholic Church???

This must be confusing for many Catholics...Especially those who have been lifelong Catholics and never experienced a personal relationship with Jesus as this lady has... And while the above statement may be true, this one is certainly true:

Those who believe in Christ are put in a certain, perfect communion with Jesus Christ...

As a Christian she is now indwelt by Jesus Christ, 24/7; something most Catholics admittedly never achieve...You can bet this lady knows she needs no communion with the Catholic religion to be an adopted child of God and perfect communion with him...

Rom_8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

And how do we know this to be true???

Rom_8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

All born again Christians are in full communion with Jesus Christ regardless of their chosen denomination whether it be Catholic, Orthodox or any other...

33 posted on 11/16/2013 7:40:45 AM PST by Iscool
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To: GonzoII

I wonder how she balances abortion and the atheism of her Party and Jesus?

Pray for Kirsten


37 posted on 11/16/2013 9:05:17 AM PST by bray (Delay Obamacare)
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To: GonzoII; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; CynicalBear; ...
And I will add that their time there (in the Evangelical denominations) was not a detour or wasted. In fact some of the greatest converts to the Catholic Church bring many gifts from their time as Evangelicals: Love for Jesus, the understanding of a personal and intimate walk with the Lord, a love for Scripture, and a zeal for souls.

Interesting.......

And the rest of us are being castigated for what again?????

40 posted on 11/16/2013 10:46:44 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: All

until she disassociates herself from the party that condones and promotes the killing of babies, she’s not fooling anyone.


68 posted on 11/16/2013 8:00:33 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: GonzoII

bookmark


131 posted on 12/07/2013 9:48:13 AM PST by GOP Poet
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