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Did Martin Luther believe in the Immaculate Conception of Mary? (Tipping R.C. Straw men)
Beggars All ^ | September 30, 2010

Posted on 11/20/2013 7:14:42 AM PST by Gamecock

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1 posted on 11/20/2013 7:14:42 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom

Another Roman Catholic Straw Man argument that has been trotted out lately.

Here is the rest of the story.


2 posted on 11/20/2013 7:16:23 AM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: Gamecock

I would like to suggest that all this finger pointing between religious groups is part of an organized effort to get us fighting each other.

This is getting silly!


3 posted on 11/20/2013 7:20:08 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Gamecock

No offense, but I couldn’t care less if ML believed in the immaculate conception. I only care what God’s letter to us (the Bible) says.


4 posted on 11/20/2013 7:22:09 AM PST by Shimmer1 (don 't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference)
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To: Zathras

Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God? That he died for our sins and that he is the only path to salvation?

If yes then we’re pretty much on the same side and can have a discussion on the minor details.


5 posted on 11/20/2013 7:22:32 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Gamecock

The scripture says “all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”, not “all but Mary have sinned...”.


6 posted on 11/20/2013 7:23:06 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Shimmer1; Mrs. Don-o

Borrowing this from Mrs. Don-o

As I always tell my RCIA students, Scripture doesn’t say, “For God so loved the world, He sent a book.”


7 posted on 11/20/2013 7:24:22 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gamecock

Even if Martin Luther believed in Mary’s immaculate conception, the Reformation does not suffer loss. Neither myself nor the Lutheran church considers Luther to be an infallible source of either interpretation or revelation.
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Exactly, that is why God left us His precious word, to be Bereans and search the scripture daily.


8 posted on 11/20/2013 7:27:02 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Salvation

If that is the case nor did he send “sacred tradition.”


9 posted on 11/20/2013 7:28:27 AM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: Gamecock
It must be a hard way to go through life -- to identify oneself, to revolve one's life around, not what one IS, but what one ISN'T.

Very negative way of living -- akin to atheism, I shouldn't wonder.

10 posted on 11/20/2013 7:29:09 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

BINGO!


11 posted on 11/20/2013 7:29:37 AM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: JimRed

According to our Roman Catholic FRiends all doesn’t mean all.


12 posted on 11/20/2013 7:30:26 AM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: driftdiver

Did I ask you to analyze my personal life?
I did ask you to consider if all this talk is designed to get us fighting each other.

I guess you just answered my question.
Just in case you missed it...the answer is YES.


13 posted on 11/20/2013 7:32:03 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Gamecock

“Jesus came upon a small crowd who had surrounded a young woman they believed to be an adulteress. They were preparing to stone her to death.

To calm the situation, Jesus said: “Whoever is without sin among you, let them cast the first stone.”

Suddenly, a woman at the back of the crowd picked up a huge rock and lobbed it at the young woman, scoring a direct hit on her head. The unfortunate young lady collapsed dead on the spot.

Jesus looked over towards the lady and said: “Mom! You stay out of this!”


14 posted on 11/20/2013 7:32:10 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Salvation

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.

Jesus did come and set us free and His word endures forever, it is good to read the bible.


15 posted on 11/20/2013 7:32:22 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Gamecock

Check Patrick Madrid on the subject. He disagrees with your article, BTW.


16 posted on 11/20/2013 7:32:51 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JimRed

So is that piece of scripture telling us that Gabriel - the angel of the Annunciation - was a fallen angel?

After all the scripture says “all have sinned.” It doesn’t say “all but Gabriel have sinned”.

Using the Bible in an arid and reductive manner quickly leads you into absurdities.


17 posted on 11/20/2013 7:33:41 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Holy Scripture AND Holy Tradition.

What did the apostles say about Mary? It’s not all in Scripture. Read the Early Church Fathers.


18 posted on 11/20/2013 7:35:55 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Zathras

Sorry I wasn’t asking you personally. I was making a general comment. my apologies.


19 posted on 11/20/2013 7:36:40 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I know how I am.

I was chosen before “the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love” (eph 1:4)

Who are you? Have you accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior?


20 posted on 11/20/2013 7:39:35 AM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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